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[Bleach Clean]

Just musing on something for the fantasy portion of this thread: What do people think about taking a run at Patrik Laine this summer?

I've talked about Guentzel, but the obvious concern is the term. Now obviously, Laine would be a risk too, but one that is only 2 years in term. His $8.7 AAV also lines up with the $9m AAV I had projected for Guentzel.

He's 25. Has played C before (centre insurance). It would probably cost Lekkerimaki going back. If VAN misses out on Guentzel/Reinhart, Laine could be the next best alternative.

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

Just musing on something for the fantasy portion of this thread: What do people think about taking a run at Patrik Laine this summer?

I've talked about Guentzel, but the obvious concern is the term. Now obviously, Laine would be a risk too, but one that is only 2 years in term. His $8.7 AAV also lines up with the $9m AAV I had projected for Guentzel.

He's 25. Has played C before (centre insurance). It would probably cost Lekkerimaki going back. If VAN misses out on Guentzel/Reinhart, Laine could be the next best alternative.

No if we give up Lekker. I’d do something like Mikheyev + 3rd, I don’t think Laine has much value with his current mental health struggles, injury history, inconsistent play, and big cap hit.

 

[Bleach Clean]

No if we give up Lekker. I’d do something like Mikheyev + 3rd, I don’t think Laine has much value with his current mental health struggles, injury history, inconsistent play, and big cap hit.

I agree, which is exactly why you would take a run at him now. His value is in the tank.

Not sure Mikheyev + 3rd would entice a new GM enough to move him? Will take a decent asset.


Edit: Idea: 4th + Podkolzin + Mikheyev + Poolman contract for Laine.

 

[VanillaCoke]

big yes to Laine but not for lekk

 

[valkynax]

I agree, which is exactly why you would take a run at him now. His value is in the tank.

Not sure Mikheyev + 3rd would entice a new GM enough to move him? Will take a decent asset.


Edit: Idea: 4th + Podkolzin + Mikheyev + Poolman contract for Laine.

I feel that we can take a shot at Tanev and Guetzel, instead of going for Laine. Guetzel at TDL expressed his interest in Van, and he has connection with Moleman here; Tanev also likely wouldn't mind heading home and unite with the team after the Reign of Error's end.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

I feel that we can take a shot at Tanev and Guetzel, instead of going for Laine. Guetzel at TDL expressed his interest in Van, and he has connection with Moleman here; Tanev also likely wouldn't mind heading home and unite with the team after the Reign of Error's end.

Add Toffoli to that list, especially if Winnipeg ends up getting bounced early. I'm just not a huge fan of Laine because of his contract and the sheer amount of injuries he's dealt with. I also don't think Columbus is going to sell low on him despite their situation. Why bother when they're not a playoff team?

 

[arttk]

Just musing on something for the fantasy portion of this thread: What do people think about taking a run at Patrik Laine this summer?

I've talked about Guentzel, but the obvious concern is the term. Now obviously, Laine would be a risk too, but one that is only 2 years in term. His $8.7 AAV also lines up with the $9m AAV I had projected for Guentzel.

He's 25. Has played C before (centre insurance). It would probably cost Lekkerimaki going back. If VAN misses out on Guentzel/Reinhart, Laine could be the next best alternative.

Isn’t he just a PP guy now?

 

[David71]

I’d rather pay Zadorov a bit more than give Myers a contract at all

van can find cheaper options on RHD than give myers another contract.

Dobson was pretty much a PP specialist up until this season as well...he was a defensive liability and a turnover machine. This year he's been tight. Thats why you don't give up on 21 year old 6'6" 1st overall defensemen because of a regression season...especially one where the entire team regressed.

sounds like a player that was connected to vancouver as well a few seasons ago. tyson barrie.

 

[God]

Just musing on something for the fantasy portion of this thread: What do people think about taking a run at Patrik Laine this summer?

I've talked about Guentzel, but the obvious concern is the term. Now obviously, Laine would be a risk too, but one that is only 2 years in term. His $8.7 AAV also lines up with the $9m AAV I had projected for Guentzel.

He's 25. Has played C before (centre insurance). It would probably cost Lekkerimaki going back. If VAN misses out on Guentzel/Reinhart, Laine could be the next best alternative.

I don't think he was very good at C, they were kinda just throwing stuff at the wall to see if it would work because he was struggling so much. Definitely a decent buy low candidate (i.e. not trading Lek) if Tocchet sees enough in his game that won't get him the Kuzmenko treatment.

 

[F A N]

Just musing on something for the fantasy portion of this thread: What do people think about taking a run at Patrik Laine this summer?

I've talked about Guentzel, but the obvious concern is the term. Now obviously, Laine would be a risk too, but one that is only 2 years in term. His $8.7 AAV also lines up with the $9m AAV I had projected for Guentzel.

He's 25. Has played C before (centre insurance). It would probably cost Lekkerimaki going back. If VAN misses out on Guentzel/Reinhart, Laine could be the next best alternative.

50% salary retained and relatively cheap acquisition cost worth exploring. Otherwise, no thanks. Talented finisher but he can't play D and he can't stay healthy. Plus I still hold a grudge for his comments about the Canucks.

I don't think he was very good at C, they were kinda just throwing stuff at the wall to see if it would work because he was struggling so much. Definitely a decent buy low candidate (i.e. not trading Lek) if Tocchet sees enough in his game that won't get him the Kuzmenko treatment.

I think the concept of him being better at C is that it gets him to work harder and be more involved. I doubt that's a long-term solution. Just look at PLD. The talent is there but if the motivation/attitude/motor isn't, you have a player who doesn't show up to play every night or even most nights.

 

[JT Milker]

Unless the team identity changes, Laine would be a disaster.

 

[theguardianII]

big yes to Laine but not for lekk

Boeser straight up. No need for Laine to play a 200 foot game then and he still has that wicked shot. It is taking a chance though due to injuries.

Add Toffoli to that list, especially if Winnipeg ends up getting bounced early. I'm just not a huge fan of Laine because of his contract and the sheer amount of injuries he's dealt with. I also don't think Columbus is going to sell low on him despite their situation. Why bother when they're not a playoff team?

Toffoli would be okay, a good roster spot holder.

Columbus will have a new "sheriff" in town. They may even retain, maybe.

van can find cheaper options on RHD than give myers another contract.


sounds like a player that was connected to vancouver as well a few seasons ago. tyson barrie.

Myers is currently the #3 dman in stats on the team. He is also supposed to great in the room.
Tyson Barrie, struggling to be an impact player again. A lot of his production was on league leading Colorado and Edmonton.
With Hughes Vancouver doesn't need another point producer they do need another large DEFENCE man though.
Myers wants to stay, he has already stated that.
Beside the team will not want too many older guys.
Cole will be going too so.

Unless the team identity changes, Laine would be a disaster.

I think the Canucks are still searching for a team identity.

 

[Bobby9]

Mik
2nd
Willander

for

Laine
Jiricek

Play Jiricek with Hughes. Sign Hronek to a 2 year arbitration extension. If Jiricek and Hughes have chemistry trade Hronek for a haul.

 

[vancityluongo]

giving laine a real center for the first time in his career, in either of petey or miller, would be a great move

mik + pod is the starting point of what i'd offer to get that done. although, if columbus' new gm is really committed to a rebuild and wants to get funky, i'd absolutely offer up lekk for laine 50% retained...

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

giving laine a real center for the first time in his career, in either of petey or miller, would be a great move

mik + pod is the starting point of what i'd offer to get that done. although, if columbus' new gm is really committed to a rebuild and wants to get funky, i'd absolutely offer up lekk for laine 50% retained...

I wouldn’t. I’d prefer the value of Lekk on an ELC as opposed to ~50 games of Laine with inconsistent results. Even if Lekk tops out as a 20-25 goal scorer, I’d still keep him over trading for Laine just based on cap savings and games played.

 

[ChilliBilly]

I wouldn’t. I’d prefer the value of Lekk on an ELC as opposed to ~50 games of Laine with inconsistent results. Even if Lekk tops out as a 20-25 goal scorer, I’d still keep him over trading for Laine just based on cap savings and games played.

This. Even if they retained salary, which is always an issue. We only have 2 - 3 ELC contracts in the pipeline, and those are going to be essential in a couple of years. we have OEL hangover starting for the next 5 years.

As I keep pointing out, we are going to be in Cap issues for years. Our top 6 forwards all making $5M+ (roughly), and Hughes contract are going to keep us pinned against the cap. The last thing we need is another major forward salary.

Our 3rd and 4th lines have been fantastic value, but can we re-sign at a reasonable amount?

 

[Peen]

laine’s interesting to me tbh

 

[sandwichbird2023]

Isn’t he just a PP guy now?

Looking at our horrific PP, we can certainly use some help there, even if it is just a PP specialist.

But definitely a huge no to Laine (for any reasonable return). If Columbus just want to dump him and is willing to take Miki back, then maybe. But we already lack team speed and consistency, I'm not sure he would be the best fit or the best way to spend $8m cap space.

 

[PavelBure10]

You can't trade Lekkerimaki. He is coming off if an insane season. WJ tournament MVP, MVP for his team. His shot is unbelievable and already by far NHL caliber. Just need to put on size and muscle. Lekks would be a great linemate to finish off feathered Pettersson passes.

I have mild interest in Laine, I wouldn't trade Lekkerimaki straight across for him. Lekks has too much untapped potential to give up on.

 

[vancityluongo]

I wouldn’t. I’d prefer the value of Lekk on an ELC as opposed to ~50 games of Laine with inconsistent results. Even if Lekk tops out as a 20-25 goal scorer, I’d still keep him over trading for Laine just based on cap savings and games played.

depends what window you're trying to max out/optimize.

maybe my lekk radar is off, but jordan schroeder was also a wjc god. in hindsight, we should've traded him for literally anything to help bolster our president's trophy winning teams.

getting a 25 year old laine for two seasons at $4.35m is the kind of move that pushes us all-in for the next two seasons while we have demko signed cheap and miller in his prime.

we'll have additional cap savings as guys like bains and pod replace garland and mikheyev to make up for the oel hit. if we can still find a way to add another star winger, i'd be very tempted.

 

[arttk]

Looking at our horrific PP, we can certainly use some help there, even if it is just a PP specialist.

But definitely a huge no to Laine (for any reasonable return). If Columbus just want to dump him and is willing to take Miki back, then maybe. But we already lack team speed and consistency, I'm not sure he would be the best fit or the best way to spend $8m cap space.

wouldn't it be more cost effective to just throw similar money at Stamkos considering how Tampa is dicking him around and there is a real chance they won't extend him.

 

[sandwichbird2023]

wouldn't it be more cost effective to just throw similar money at Stamkos considering how Tampa is dicking him around and there is a real chance they won't extend him.

Yea probably. If Stamkos is willing to sign like a 1 or 2 year deal at $4-5m, sure. I'm certain he will get a better offer though.

I also really doubt Columbus is willing to dump Laine for peanuts and retaining 50% or taking Miki back, so he isn't an appealing target either.

I think we have the personnel to fix the PP issue internally, I wouldn't prioritize any cap space just for that. Much rather use the cap space to sign quality depth players and hopefully have enough to add 1 top 6 winger.

 

[Vector]

I mentioned Laine* months ago and the result was a resounding “not interested” here. What’s changed?

*at 50% of course

 

[SopelFanThe3rd]

Laine would ride pine more than Kuz.

Laine would be a great add (to a Fortnite team).

 

[arttk]

Yea probably. If Stamkos is willing to sign like a 1 or 2 year deal at $4-5m, sure. I'm certain he will get a better offer though.

I also really doubt Columbus is willing to dump Laine for peanuts and retaining 50% or taking Miki back, so he isn't an appealing target either.

I think we have the personnel to fix the PP issue internally, I wouldn't prioritize any cap space just for that. Much rather use the cap space to sign quality depth players and hopefully have enough to add 1 top 6 winger.

yeah, Laine even with retention is going to cost like 6+. I don't think CBJ will be willing to take on like more than 2M for 2 more years. if you are spending that much cap on a PP specialist, just throw that money at Stamkos and see what happens.