Seravalli: Canucks looking to improve by adding a Puck Moving Top 4 Dman with size

[BoHorvat 53]

We're not trading Willander.

If Noah Dobson is available, we most definitely are.

 

[Peter Griffin]

If Noah Dobson is available, we most definitely are.

No they aren’t. Making a play for Dobson, given what he’d cost to acquire, is foolish from a Canucks’ POV.

 

[SEALBound]

Is Dobson legitimately available though? Oh all the guys on the roster, why do the NYI trade him?

I think Pettersson from Pittsburgh makes the most sense as we get closer to the TDL.

 

[Bobby9]

Throwing this out there McAvoy for Pettersson 1 for 1.

Add in Coyle and you have a deal

 

[Gurglesons]

Is Dobson legitimately available though? Oh all the guys on the roster, why do the NYI trade him?

I think Pettersson from Pittsburgh makes the most sense as we get closer to the TDL.

Contract status.

 

[CapSpace]

Matheson

 

[SEALBound]

Contract status.

1yr at $4mil then an RFA. Top pairing dman whose 24yo?

X Doubt.

 

[Peter Griffin]

I think Pettersson from Pittsburgh makes the most sense as we get closer to the TDL.

Same here. Would be a good partner for Willander going forward but what is a realistic contract ask for him? I doubt Vancouver is paying a high price in trade capital for a rental.

 

[SEALBound]

Same here. Would be a good partner for Willander going forward but what is a realistic contract ask for him? I doubt Vancouver is paying a high price in trade capital for a rental.

Depends. I think you can give him a 5yr 5.5-6mil deal and be okay. I think he could get slightly longer or more. Jake McCabe might be a good comparison. The dman market coming isn't all that great. It's either top end like Provorov or Orlov or you're in the sub $2mil range. Not a ton of the mid-level guys, especially those with top pairing capabilities.

Rental wise, as Emp has said, Pettersson+2nd for Pettersson retained a bit could be pretty easy to pull off. I might as for the 1st if he's willing to negotiate an extension. That said, we would also love to take Lekkerimaki.

 

[Peter Griffin]

Depends. I think you can give him a 5yr 5.5-6mil deal and be okay. I think he could get slightly longer or more. Jake McCabe might be a good comparison. The dman market coming isn't all that great. It's either top end like Provorov or Orlov or you're in the sub $2mil range. Not a ton of the mid-level guys, especially those with top pairing capabilities.

Rental wise, as Emp has said, Pettersson+2nd for Pettersson retained a bit could be pretty easy to pull off. I might as for the 1st if he's willing to negotiate an extension. That said, we would also love to take Lekkerimaki.

Lekk isn’t going for a guy like Marcus Pettersson. 2nd+B prospect sure. I imagine he’s a guy on the Canucks’ radar given Allvin and Rutherford’s history with him.

 

[Gurglesons]

1yr at $4mil then an RFA. Top pairing dman whose 24yo?

X Doubt.

Similar situation to Dougie Hamilton. I don’t think NYI is convinced he’s worth the 8-9 mil he’ll command given his defensive issues.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Ah you misunderstood. The canucks want a Top 4 guy that moves the puck to his own teammates not to players on the other team.

Don’t tell him he was traded.

 

[impaaaaaact]

1yr at $4mil then an RFA. Top pairing dman whose 24yo?

X Doubt.

up for a new contract at the end of the year, and there's a debate amongst fans as to if he's actually worth what he's going to get (9M+)

that being said, it would take a kings ransom to deal him - an offer that would force Lou's hand. Lou loves Jay Pandolfo and BU, so hard to think Willander wouldn't be on his radar.

Willander
Hoglander
Unprotected first
Raty
Probably another pick

That, combined with trades of UFAs Nelson and Palmieri would basically allow the team to do an entire re-tool in a year. Almost no chance it happens, but fun to think about

 

[HuGort]

According to Frank:

- Canucks are already in the market talking to teams regarding options to improve their Top 4 D
- Canucks want to get ahead of the deadline rush, much like they did last year when they acquired Zadorov in December
-Branstrom has been a pleasant surprise on the bottom pair but they want a bigger body, puck mover that is a legit top 4 D
- They might internally have the answer with Tom Willander who is a point per game 19 yr old Right Shot Dman for Boston University and was just recently named Hockey East Dman of the Week. Could they get him to sign just in time for the playoffs?

Thoughts? Which, bigger, legit Top4 Dman with Puck Moving capabilities will be available?

Assets to Sell:

2025 picks: Round 1, 2, 4, 5,6, 7
2026 picks: Round 1,2,4,5,6
2027 picks: Round, 1, 3, 4, 4, 5,6,7

Prospects: Value order (imo)

Tom Willander
Jonathan Lekkerimaki
Sawyer Mynio
Aatu Raty
Elias Pettersson ( Dman)
Kiril Kudryavstev


Roster Player that might be available:

Hoglander
Aman
Desharnais

Montreal might move Matheson?

 

[SirKillalot]

A wild Justin Holl appeared.
He moves the puck...I mean not well but it moves. What you give for him? A pokeball and a 3rd round pick is okay.

 

[BoHorvat 53]

No they aren’t. Making a play for Dobson, given what he’d cost to acquire, is foolish from a Canucks’ POV.

Everything we've seen from this management suggest they swing for the fences, they are not scared off by acquisition cost. It really comes down to if they'd be interested in Dobson (IF he were available, huge if), but I think they would.

 

[Peter Griffin]

Everything we've seen from this management suggest they swing for the fences, they are not scared off by acquisition cost. It really comes down to if they'd be interested in Dobson (IF he were available, huge if), but I think they would.

Dobson really doesn’t make a lot of sense for a team that already has Hughes and Hronek, especially if acquisition cost is high. Dobson isn’t great defensively, hardly PK’s and one of his biggest assets is his ability to QB a PP, something nullified by a team that already has Hughes. I’d much rather see them go after a different target and unless they’ve soured on Hronek, I think they would too.

 

[Regal]

Everything we've seen from this management suggest they swing for the fences, they are not scared off by acquisition cost. It really comes down to if they'd be interested in Dobson (IF he were available, huge if), but I think they would.

Maybe, but they can’t afford him long term unless they move out another core piece

 

[oceanchild]

If Noah Dobson is available, we most definitely are.

I agree we could and it would be an option, but the deal needs to make sense and Dobson is about to get paid.

Dobson really doesn’t make a lot of sense for a team that already has Hughes and Hronek, especially if acquisition cost is high. Dobson isn’t great defensively, hardly PK’s and one of his biggest assets is his ability to QB a PP, something nullified by a team that already has Hughes. I’d much rather see them go after a different target and unless they’ve soured on Hronek, I think they would too.

I do disagree with your logic, I also think the team would be very difficult to play against and the transition game would be, or at least should be the best in the NHL. Would almost want to move Myers and souray to the third pair and find an appropriate partner for Dobson if he came. This team, with its goaltending, and its playing style, should be built from the back end out.

 

[Peter Griffin]

I do disagree with your logic, I also think the team would be very difficult to play against and the transition game would be, or at least should be the best in the NHL. Would almost want to move Myers and souray to the third pair and find an appropriate partner for Dobson if he came. This team, with its goaltending, and its playing style, should be built from the back end out.

How are we affording Dobson’s likely $9M asking price after this season?

 

[Barsky]

A wild Justin Holl appeared.
He moves the puck...I mean not well but it moves. What you give for him? A pokeball and a 3rd round pick is okay.

If it cost Stevie a 2nd to dump Walman, it'll cost him 2 firsts to move Holl

 

[Bgav]

A wild Justin Holl appeared.
He moves the puck...I mean not well but it moves. What you give for him? A pokeball and a 3rd round pick is okay.

make him disappear again please

 

[oceanchild]

How are we affording Dobson’s likely $9M asking price after this season?

The only path I can see is trading Pettersson, but we either need a center back as well or to have the parts to get a second line center. We also need money for Boeser as he is looking like he will hit 40 again.

 

[Peter Griffin]

The only path I can see is trading Pettersson, but we either need a center back as well or to have the parts to get a second line center. We also need money for Boeser as he is looking like he will hit 40 again.

So in other words, he’s not a good target unless the team makes a dramatic move.

 

[oceanchild]

So in other words, he’s not a good target unless the team makes a dramatic move.

I’m not sure I agree with the framework of your response. Do you think a small move takes this team over the top?