Friedman: Canucks give Brock Boeser's agent the permission to speak with other teams

[oceanchild]

Like any NHL club, Vancouver has some valuable players. Don’t play the victim. It’s unbecoming.

All we’re saying is Boeser isn’t one of Vancouvers valued assets. His trade value is far lower than a Horvat. Horvat is worth his AAV. Boeser isn’t and his deal has two more years after this one so you have to commit long term to a bad contract when you acquire Boeser. No GM signs up for that unless they get something valuable in exchange.

Maybe Vancouver retains at least $1.65mm per (that’s got value). Maybe they attach a high pick (probably the thing they least want to do). Maybe Vancouver takes back a bad contract and one that is multiyear. (most likely).

What won’t happen. Any team trading just futures or prospects for Boeser at $6.65mm. He’s not even worth a seventh round pick. Or better said, free cap space is more valuable l.

The undervaluation of Vancouver players on the board is unbecoming, pointing it out it providing a factual and logical argument.

 

[ICanMotteBelieveIt]

Always help with a players value when the team scratches him.

Also helps that he’s at best a middling top 6 forward with an anchor contract.

Maybe Dobson 1 for 1?

As a Rangers fan, I know I speak for all Islanders fans when I say: Hell yes!

Have you seen Dobson play? He's a very, very good player. The Islanders would say no in less than 2 seconds.

 

[RebuildinVan]

Translation..... Canucks management need Brocks agent to talk up his clients value so they can get something for him

 

[GaryPoppins]

Personally I'd prefer someone with better skating in that spot.

Boeser > Appleton, AJF, Barron, Gagne, Eyssimont.

An additional injury to our top 6 and we’re bleeped.

 

[McJedi]

The undervaluation of Vancouver players on the board is unbecoming, pointing it out it providing a factual and logical argument.

If Vancouver and their fans knew anything about evaluating, you’d have made some of these trades those around the team have been talking about for years. Boeser, JT Miller, Garland, Myers, OEL and so on.

The only valuation problem with Boeser is y’all’s overvaluation of him. Asking for firsts or even 2nds or guys like Dobson, Hanafin or Dumba. It’s absurd how off the mark several Vancouver fans are about the state of their team. EP and Hughes have value. Demko has value. Horvat has value. But those other guys I listed in the first paragraph. They really don’t. None of them.

 

[HockeyWooot]

Boeser is a good player, just not a good fit on a team that is already soft and suspect defensively upfront. With Kuzmenko in the fold he’s our 4th or 5th best forward offensively, which isn’t enough to offset the weakness of his game.

A talented player that is a prime change of scenery candidate. People forget he was our top scorer and best forward a few seasons back.

In a non-flat cap environment he’d probably be a good pickup for a number of teams.

 

[57special]

Boeser WAS a good player. Sounds like injuries have really destroyed his effectiveness, sort of like they did with Monahan in the past 2-3 years. It happens, even with fairly young players. It might be that he he will heal up if he takes a few months, or year, or two off, but what GM is going to buy into that?

 

[Warh1ppy]

What won’t happen. Any team trading just futures or prospects for Boeser at $6.65mm. He’s not even worth a seventh round pick. Or better said, free cap space is more valuable l.

 

[McJedi]

100%. If Vancouver isn’t taking back a bad contract or retaining salary, Boeser wouldn’t even fetch a 7th round pick in a pure futures trade.

No one will give up that much free cap space ($6.65mm) without Vancouver compensating them for it.

Here is what a realistic Boeser trade would look like value wise.

Boeser for Tyler Johnson + a 3rd.

 

[Warh1ppy]

100%. If Vancouver isn’t taking back a bad contract or retaining salary, Boeser wouldn’t even fetch a 7th round pick in a pure futures trade.

No one will give up that much free cap space ($6.65mm) without Vancouver compensating them for it.

Here is what a realistic Boeser trade would look like value wise.

Boeser for Tyler Johnson + a 3rd.

So he is worth more than a 7th?

Make up your mind

 

[McJedi]

So he is worth more than a 7th?

Make up your mind

Guess you don’t know much about Tyler Johnson and his bad contract.

But I thought Tyler Johnson had three years left on his $5mm AAV. But I’m wrong. His contract expires a year sooner than Boeser. So I retract the pick.

I don’t think Chicago trades Tyler Johnson for Boeser. Straight up.

Boeser is at least a good offensive player in the Ozone. Tyler Johnson may be unplayable as of today. Hard to say which team this is worse for. A worse player with one less year and $1.65mm lower AAV.

 

[Canuck Luck]

Doesn’t matter what he is offering, it’s what the gms would offer and I think Boston would rather go after horvat. Brock doesn’t seem like a Boston guy.

You realize this is HFBoards. Nothing here matters. Why bother posting or having a trade forums then. This forum is meant to discuss actual roster moves made irl and discuss fantasy ideas

 

[Gabe Kupari]

Winnipeg makes sense as it's close to home. But I'd imagine maybe Stanley plus Vesalainen would be best offer

 

[Warh1ppy]

Guess you don’t know much about Tyler Johnson and his bad contract.

So is he only worth a 7th?

Is he worth a 3rd?

Gotta make up your mind my dude.

But for reference. Tyler Johnson is worth $5 million until next year, Boeser is $6.65 million until the end of 2025. So when you said he is or was only worth a 7th, then suggest we can trade him for a 3rd, AND a smaller contract that expires a year earlier; I just kinda shake my head and chuckle

 

[McJedi]

So is he only worth a 7th?

Is he worth a 3rd?

Gotta make up your mind my dude.

But for reference. Tyler Johnson is worth $5 million until next year, Boeser is $6.65 million until the end of 2025. So when you said he is or was only worth a 7th, then suggest we can trade him for a 3rd, AND a smaller contract that expires a year earlier; I just kinda shake my head and chuckle

Tyler Johnson isn’t really an NHL level player. Boeser can still play a middle six role and produce some offense. It’s not really comparable player to player. A bigger than $1.65mm AAV delta.

so Chicago would add a pick if the term of contracts matched.

But you’re right that Johnson’s deal ends a year sooner so I don’t think Chicago would touch this trade. They’d be better off with Johnson on LTIR.

 

[Warh1ppy]

Tyler Johnson isn’t really an NHL level player. Boeser can still play a middle six role and produce some offense. It’s not really comparable player to player. A bigger than $1.65mm AAV delta.

so Chicago would add a pick if the term of contracts matched.

But you’re right that Johnson’s deal ends a year sooner so I don’t think Chicago would touch this trade. They’d be better off with Johnson on LTIR.

So.

Boeser is worth more than a 7th.

Got it

 

[Breakers]

He is super effective once he is in the offensive zone

Problem is he can’t transition the puck
He can’t make a good first pass
He can’t have controlled entries as he is so slow and always turns it over in the neutral zone

Once he is the zone….. his shot assist metrics and cycle game is really strong.

Not sure who has use for a player for a player like that in todays game.

 

[tilly123123]

These guys are f***ing clowns who’d love boeser on the team even with his trajectory. Stfu trolls

Banned for speaking the truth. To protect the trollz

 

[McJedi]

So.

Boeser is worth more than a 7th.

Got it

For sure if Vancouver is also taking back a woeful contract like Tyler Johnson. Boeser doesn’t have close to the league’s worst contract. There are many worse contracts than his. Most teams have one or more that are worse.

Tyler Johnson has a truly awful contract. Tampa’s GM did so well to fleece Chicago on that trade.

 

[TBF1972]

So.

Boeser is worth more than a 7th.

Got it

call san jose for vlasic and feel like a winner.

 

[unicornpig]

The undervaluation of Vancouver players on the board is unbecoming, pointing it out it providing a factual and logical argument.

this board? its nhl gms as well. its why miller couldn't be moved and it looks to be the same case in boeser.

 

[franste Perreault]

Colorado have 11 players injured they need to try to acquire boeser quickly.

 

[Habs Halifax]

The undervaluation of Vancouver players on the board is unbecoming, pointing it out it providing a factual and logical argument.

Join the club. Habs get the same treatment. On these boards, good luck finding the truth while you dig through the troll narratives.

 

[oceanchild]

this board? its nhl gms as well. its why miller couldn't be moved and it looks to be the same case in boeser.

That is a pretty bold assumption, that you know what all GMs are valuing players at. It is very possible the Canucks brass want only right handed dman aged 20-25 in return and no one wants to give that up. Maybe, they will only make a trade if they include a rare Pokémon card that they can’t get their hands on. That’s the thing when you don’t actually know, it could be anything.

 

[Habs Halifax]

What are the Canucks looking for in return? Player for Player or Player for futures?