Friedman: Canucks give Brock Boeser's agent the permission to speak with other teams

[McJedi]

Minnesota doesn’t sound interested for anyone listening to the press. They aren’t going to want to take on deals with term.

The potential suitors for Boeser are finite and few. Yet another reason he’s not going to fetch much of anything in trade.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

With JR they have a buffer in place. The previous issue was Benning was acting as a puppet for an owner that had assumed the President role. Trust fund babies are not accustomed to living/working with spending restrictions and Jimbo was not bright enough nor patient enough to deter poor spending and poor pro scouting.

It's gonna take a bit to untangle this roster. With Demko now out and some young players needing development time it's imperative that Allvin only sell or trade when teams have cap availability.

This whole notion to blow things up in December is not very smart

Burn it to the ground and start over, the only players that we should try and hold on to are Petey and Hughes, the rest should be for sale, I hope your right about JR because so far I see some pretty similar crap all happening all over again.

 

[khoss]

I feel on the right deal he would probably work pretty good with Conners and Dubois on the Jets. They are constantly rotating guys in that position with Ehlers out.

 

[Eggtimer]

i don't think he is a good enough skater for the way the devils want to play.

Ya , cannot see the Devils having any interest at all. They have their own version of him , and he is on a ELC - Holtz .
If addimg that much term and cap hit , they will go big or go home on someone that fits way better like a Meier type player . That or save cap room for roster flexibility. Next off season they have enough to extend Brat plus add another elite piece. The amount they can use depends on what they do with their UFA‘s and Blackwood (I say do NOT qualify him . Saves 3 mil). Letting Johnson go saves more as well. They have to decide on what to offer Wood, Severson (my guess is he is gone) , Tatar (much improved this year so not sure what they do with him).

 

[Huffer]

I feel on the right deal he would probably work pretty good with Conners and Dubois on the Jets. They are constantly rotating guys in that position with Ehlers out.

Personally I'd prefer someone with better skating in that spot.

 

[krutovsdonut]

If there was no market last summer, why even sign him to a 3-year deal? People here seem to be thinking Canucks have to add to get rid of him now…

read the statement i quoted from the article, which i am sure is 100% sourced from the agent since it is local vcr media.

it sounds like they signed him to trade him by agreement with the agent. the agent in his mind probably thinks that contract was a good deal, but the reality is that boeser is seen as soft, injury prone and a poor defensive player around the league and is not worth his point production. best case, teams are waiting to see if he bounces back from last season with the situation with his dad.

but the season comes around and boeser does not bounce back. he's in fact a team worst +/- on a horrendous team and most definitrely part of the problem. he gets his points but you don't feel his presence much otherwise unless you are tracking failed zone clearances. boudreau, who loves offence, reigns in his icetime.

i will extrapolate that recently boeser or his agent got antsy and said something that pissed the team off, so he gets healthy scratched and the trade option is leaked publicly by the team. to friedman.

so now boeser is super upset his squeaky clean flow star image is being rattled and so he actually tried last game and his agent goes on a local media charm offence.

and so here we are. even if boeser turns on the jets from now on, teams are going to be suspicious that they will get october-november boeser if they trade for him. nobody is going to commit that much precious cap to a guy like that even if he produces points.

 

[Gurglesons]

Minnesota doesn’t sound interested for anyone listening to the press. They aren’t going to want to take on deals with term.

The potential suitors for Boeser are finite and few. Yet another reason he’s not going to fetch much of anything in trade.

Canucks have once again bungled their existence. Boeser and Miller could’ve returned a nice little group of picks and prospects that they could’ve kept or used to get out of one of Myers or OEL’s deals.

I could see Buffalo or Detroit taking a low risk on Boeser.

Buffalo maybe like Victor Olofsson straight up for Boeser.

Detroit maybe Pius and a 4th.

 

[oceanchild]

I don't even know that NYR would do Schneider for Boeser and a 1st.

I was being as ass, apparently all Canucks players are crap and have no value and we don’t have a single player worth more than a 6th.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

I was being as ass, apparently all Canucks players are crap and have no value and we don’t have a single player worth more than a 6th.

Meh. Boeser is not a guy who teams clamour for. In a flat cap, with the Nucks trying not to add salary in return, his value will not be good.

I actually think Myers would return a similar amount.

 

[Gurglesons]

Meh. Boeser is not a guy who teams clamour for. In a flat cap, with the Nucks trying not to add salary in return, his value will not be good.

I actually think Myers would return a similar amount.

I disagree with the sentiment that he wouldn't draw interest around the league if he is made available. I would agree with the sentiment that teams will try to dump cap on the Canucks and basically pay nothing for him.

 

[Fjordy]

Olofsson + Laaksonen for Boeser

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

I disagree with the sentiment that he wouldn't draw interest around the league if he is made available. I would agree with the sentiment that teams will try to dump cap on the Canucks and basically pay nothing for him.

Not saying he won't/wouldn't draw interest, but I dont think there are many teams looking at him and saying, "wow, we can't miss out on this guy. He can really make our team better".

If the Canucks were trading for him, I suspect Myers, OEL, or Poolman + Pearson are required as part of the return and not a whole lot on top of that. From Ottawa, the highest I would go is Matt Joseph, Zaitsev, and a 2nd or 3rd. And only if we are unable to re-sign Debrincat.

 

[topched88]

Re-sign miller @ an all time high, hold Schenn for a team going no where

Trade boeser at an all time low, shopping garland at all time low.

If they re-sign Horvat at this time next year everyone will feel exactly like they do about the miller deal.


1 year later, it seems like the canucks still have losing management.

 

[EP to Kuzmenko]

Re-sign miller @ an all time high, hold Schenn for a team going no where

Trade boeser at an all time low, shopping garland at all time low.

If they re-sign Horvat at this time next year everyone will feel exactly like they do about the miller deal.


1 year later, it seems like the canucks still have losing management.

It is easy to tell that Ownership pulls the strings on this team. FA just can't find a GM that can turn sh*t to gold. That man loves his quick fixes that never work out. Then again, he is a slum lord.

 

[Detroit Knights]

Canucks have once again bungled their existence. Boeser and Miller could’ve returned a nice little group of picks and prospects that they could’ve kept or used to get out of one of Myers or OEL’s deals.

I could see Buffalo or Detroit taking a low risk on Boeser.

Buffalo maybe like Victor Olofsson straight up for Boeser.

Detroit maybe Pius and a 4th.

Detroit doesn't really need another winger. Need a better 2C or 3rd pairing Defensemen to take Oesterle out and pair them with Walman.

 

[FunkySeeFunkyDo]

Eklund says Pittsburgh is involved—So, Kapanen + Dumoulin. Kapanen signed for another year and scores goals at 2 per game rate. Shop Dumo at the deadline for 2 second rounders.

 

[Grasshopperking]

Would love for the Bruins to be in on this

 

[gojetsgo]

Eklund says Pittsburgh is involved—So, Kapanen + Dumoulin. Kapanen signed for another year and scores goals at 2 per game rate. Shop Dumo at the deadline for 2 second rounders.

so I guess that rules pittsburgh out...

 

[McJedi]

I was being as ass, apparently all Canucks players are crap and have no value and we don’t have a single player worth more than a 6th.

Like any NHL club, Vancouver has some valuable players. Don’t play the victim. It’s unbecoming.

All we’re saying is Boeser isn’t one of Vancouvers valued assets. His trade value is far lower than a Horvat. Horvat is worth his AAV. Boeser isn’t and his deal has two more years after this one so you have to commit long term to a bad contract when you acquire Boeser. No GM signs up for that unless they get something valuable in exchange.

Maybe Vancouver retains at least $1.65mm per (that’s got value). Maybe they attach a high pick (probably the thing they least want to do). Maybe Vancouver takes back a bad contract and one that is multiyear. (most likely).

What won’t happen. Any team trading just futures or prospects for Boeser at $6.65mm. He’s not even worth a seventh round pick. Or better said, free cap space is more valuable l.

 

[Gurglesons]

Eklund says Pittsburgh is involved—So, Kapanen + Dumoulin. Kapanen signed for another year and scores goals at 2 per game rate. Shop Dumo at the deadline for 2 second rounders.

Makes no sense for PIT to trade Kapanen who is a marginally better 5v5 player in worse usage than Boeser for Boeser while weakening their D.

 

[lawrence]

I don't understand why the Canucks didn't just let Boeser walk as an RFA t

you don't let 24 year old team lead point producers just walk, who has been a part of the team for the past 5 seasons that was part of the developing group. His dad just died, which brutally affected his play. right now you, its just pure hindsight. We didn't see this coming and the same with Thatcher demko. This guy can't stop a beach ball, but yes Boeser needs to turn it around too. no excuses. he was a -1 or 2 in every game during this 11 game point streak. He needs to bounce back. but yes, our management seems to be another joke, although hasn't been a year yet, i'm not liking em right now for many reasons.

 

[Gurglesons]

you don't let 24 year old team lead point producers just walk, who has been a part of the team for the past 5 seasons that was part of the developing group. His dad just died, which brutally affected his play. right now you, its just pure hindsight. We didn't see this coming and the same with Thatcher demko. This guy can't stop a beach ball, but yes Boeser needs to turn it around too. no excuses. he was a -1 or 2 in every game during this 11 game point streak. He needs to bounce back. but yes, our management seems to be another joke, although hasn't been a year yet, i'm not liking em right now for many reasons.

Nah. They should’ve moved his rights for whatever they’ve gotten and moved on.

 

[Canuck Luck]

Would love for the Bruins to be in on this

what would u offer?

 

[lawrence]

what would u offer?

Doesn’t matter what he is offering, it’s what the gms would offer and I think Boston would rather go after horvat. Brock doesn’t seem like a Boston guy.

 

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