Confirmed with Link: Canucks announce HC Rick Tocchet will Not Return
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nucks88
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Mixed emotions
Sucks:
Optimistic:
Sucks:
- Hughes loves him and this staff, this hurts our odds of retaining Hughes
- This staff brought in strong defensive structure, seemed to be doing a good job of coaching dmen, that raised the floor for this team
- Bad look to the rest of the league that Tocchet left
- Yet another head coach in such a short span
Optimistic:
- I think Petey's chances of rebounding improve if the next coach is more open to east-west hockey and offensive freedom. Petey rebounding is basically mandatory if you want to keep Hughes.
- As stated above, there's a chance for more offensive upside with a new coach for the team as a whole, the point shots with traffic strategy limited this team's offensive ceiling
- This management got the Tocchet hiring right, Malhotra also looks like a solid AHL hire so they've shown that they can identify quality coaches.
it being a factor is just a lame ass excuse. society still frowns on people chasing money, the whole back and forth has always been about money since the very beginning.
Us offering 4ish and him wanting 5M+ IS the reason and probably the ONLY reason.
drax0s
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Welp, just about time to start daydreaming about crashing out, getting McKenna and having Bedard come to play with his cousin.
Well, I guess this just caps one of the worst seasons in Canucks history. There have been worse records but I am not going to argue that there have been worse seasons. What a complete disaster.
To be clear, while I liked Tocchet as a coach, I don't think he's alone at the top of the list of best coaches. There are others that they can employ. My main issue is that they built this team for Tocchet. Unless they bring in a coach that has a similar style they will need to reset the entire organization.
It's also a little distasteful that he signaled how much he loved the organization, fans, etc and then bailed at the first opportunity. Just another in a long list of examples not to buy into the BS.
To be clear, while I liked Tocchet as a coach, I don't think he's alone at the top of the list of best coaches. There are others that they can employ. My main issue is that they built this team for Tocchet. Unless they bring in a coach that has a similar style they will need to reset the entire organization.
It's also a little distasteful that he signaled how much he loved the organization, fans, etc and then bailed at the first opportunity. Just another in a long list of examples not to buy into the BS.
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nucks88
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yeah Petey bouncing back and the team performing is probably more important in keeping Hughes. players know that coaches don't last anyways and the odds of Tocc surviving in any coaching capacity for over like 3-4 more years is really slim. Players sticking around is more of a likelihood.
Sucks Tocchet chased money but whatever, we'll see who they find to replace him. I do find it people being so pessimistic when this management group hired tocchet when everyone was skeptical about tocchet and somehow these guys can't find a coach that can replace him?
Flik
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I've mixed feelings about this. I like Tocchet as a person and I love a lot of his mentality around accountability and having pride in wearing a Canucks sweater, Hughes has nothing but great things to say about him as well so that matters.
But the actual results on the ice have been kind of mixed in a lot of ways. Tocchet is a really good coach, but I dunno if he's a *great* one yet, maybe he would have made adjustments like AV did mid-career, or maybe Tocchet is a finished product, I dunno
The optics aren't the best though, but we're already a f***ing
show at the moment so whatever~
But the actual results on the ice have been kind of mixed in a lot of ways. Tocchet is a really good coach, but I dunno if he's a *great* one yet, maybe he would have made adjustments like AV did mid-career, or maybe Tocchet is a finished product, I dunno
The optics aren't the best though, but we're already a f***ing
show at the moment so whatever~
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What do you mean it's a lame excuse? The lack of a practice facility affects his job EVERY DAY, whereas with literally any other team (outside of Calgary), it doesn't. It's a clear downgrade to your daily work. Imagine if you are a standard office worker, and you would have to work in a different office multiple times a week? Not only that, you have to go to a meeting to the other side of the town, and maybe you need to do some more office work at another place so that's 3 locations a day. Also, having to stop somewhere to eat.
Now imagine, this could all be done at a single location? Do you understand how much of a difference that makes? Some people really underestimate what a practice facility for a professional sports team is. It's not just a place where you go to have standard practice on ice. You do your gym workouts there. You do your massage therapy there. You have your food and catering there. You have your team meetings and video sessions there. That is your workplace as an NHL team member.
Rutherford holding a press conference at 3pm.
Canucks need a win now to change the momentum and to do that, they need to sign a well respected coach.
God, it was just recently when Canucks won the ‘Kuzmenko sweepstakes’ that it felt like the franchise was on an upwards trajectory again.
Canucks need a win now to change the momentum and to do that, they need to sign a well respected coach.
God, it was just recently when Canucks won the ‘Kuzmenko sweepstakes’ that it felt like the franchise was on an upwards trajectory again.
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It was all downhill after he came up with “embrace the hard” as the new slogan for the team
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We're going to hire Sullivan aren't we? Can't say I'm exactly thrilled with the off season start so far.
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They have a wonderful practice facility.
He would cost us 4+ mil. He's out of our price range.
Both are probably factors. In AZ and Pitt they have their own. It is always good to have a facility that is 100% the team's where everything is there for the players.
Can control/oversee all of the training, rehab, nutrition, etc. and have everyone involved with the team there vs in multiple locations. So, that I get.
But, for sure money is a big deal. Probably as well the future prospects of the team.
See where he opts to land. He is 61. Next stop probably going to be his last.
But, very tired of hearing about talk of the practice facility. Should have been built by now.
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Mixed about Tocchet leaving, probably more so about the longer term implications with Hughes. Sullivan has the resume, but I think I'd be happier with Manny coaching the Canucks...he just seems like an all around good and smart dude with a very even keel. He's also a Canuck with ties to the community...he's invested...he's no "Johnny come lately".
Hes going to rags .
There are plenty of solid coaches out there interesting times.
As far as Toch liked him good luck .
Not sure why he'd want to come here. I heard the rangers were after him hard.
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All of Rick's talk about culture building, embrace the hard blah blah blah seems pretty f***ing hollow when he bounces after one bad season.
