There's no point in ignoring poor officiating when it ends up costing your team when it actually counts. There have been mutliple occasions where the fix was in against the Canucks in the playoffs, just look at some of those chicago series in the past. Bolland gets to hack the hell out of the sedins. I still remember that over the head chop he had that broke one of the sedin's stick and still no penalty. Don't even get me started on the SCF officiating.
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There's no point in ignoring poor officiating when it ends up costing your team when it actually counts. There have been mutliple occasions where the fix was in against the Canucks in the playoffs, just look at some of those chicago series in the past. Bolland gets to hack the hell out of the sedins. I still remember that over the head chop he had that broke one of the sedin's stick and still no penalty. Don't even get me started on the SCF officiating.
Refs probably got confused - Hartley went on a swearing tirade after one of theirs got a penalty earlier in the game. Idiots.
So, it's better to stay quiet about it and let people assume he said something really nasty to the refs that was worthy of a penalty?
If all he said is "that's an elbow", then the refs should be getting roasted for making a call like that in a 2-2 game in the 3rd.
Why do the refs prefer anyone but the Canucks? What is this conspiracy?
Should have left it at that. It's the follow-up comments that are pathetic, IMO.
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Just don't think that call cost us the game. A failure to execute on offense and generate quality chances on a rookie goalie, plus a mess on defense, cost us the game.
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Well, there ain't much going on on our PPs anyways. They usually end up being a momentum killer, as stupid as that sounds.
We are a Canadian team so the NHL doesn't give a damn about us winning the Cup. Refs may have a bias against us since the Auger/Burrows incident.
Refs are doing exactly what they did last year at the half way mark. Stop making calls
And the Flames are a US team? Auger was let go by the NHL for his overall incompetence, I doubt any refs actually care about him.
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I'm fine with him saying what he said to the refs, it's the comments after that tell me he is frustrated how this season is going. His comments after are careless and aren't going to change anything. AV needs to focus on fixing this team, not taking shots at refs in postgame scrums.
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I agree. We should have put this game away early on. That goalie gave out a lot of rebounds. However, a bad call is a bad call and AV shouldn't let them get away with it.
You can draw a direct line from that penalty to the game winning goal. Cause/Effect doesn't get any more straight forward than that.
You can argue about rookie goalies and whatever else all you want or other what if's like the Raymond crossbar. It's hard enough winning back to back games as is, you don't need to be playing against the refs as well.
me2
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Tanev is arguable our most reliable atm
Hamhuis is usually the closest but he's playing poorly
Elder is prone is mistakes
Bieksa is prone to mistakes
Ballard is prone to mistakes
Garrison - is about $1.5m overpaid based on current play atm.
Ballard - AV hates him
Ahlberts/Barker - meh.
they might be a good defense in the right system but they look like fringe playoff teams D atm as a group.
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I think that's a solid point in regards to Gillis. Although I'm less a fan of him now than 2 years ago.
The timing to fire AV right now would be odd though and I also would love to see his entire staff canned. Not just him if he's gone. I dont want ANYONE left.
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I think when healthy our core is a good and deep defense group and with proper pairings. Putting bieka with edler and it can go the wrong way. Paired properly and consistently I think we have a deep defense pool.
I dont disagree with any of the assessments besides garrison but paired with the proper people we can play fine. The reliable guys can cover the less reliable players who are more offensive and jump into the rush.
I really thought bieksa-hamhuis, tanev-edler, and garrison-ballard looked good, but these pairings were only one game together i can recall.
by the way did I make a statement regarding the D, just wondering why your quoting me? I cant even remember the discussion or who I responded to earlier that made the statement.
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Garrison has been a rock lately, with the Detroit game being the only blemish on his resume but everyone was horrible in that game. Tanev plays the softest minutes on D but he does it well.
Bieksa and Hamhuis have been the real issue this season. Bieksa is playing 2nd softest minutes and somehow managing to be one of the worst possession players on the team. Hamhuis is doing fine in terms of his overall play, it's the turnovers and uncharacteristic mistakes that are the issue.
Edler is in a similar boat as Hamhuis.
Bieksa and Hamhuis have been the real issue this season. Bieksa is playing 2nd softest minutes and somehow managing to be one of the worst possession players on the team. Hamhuis is doing fine in terms of his overall play, it's the turnovers and uncharacteristic mistakes that are the issue.
Edler is in a similar boat as Hamhuis.
Not sure if this is legit, but I just heard on Team 1040 that Hansen named his twins Daniel and......Hen...just kidding, Lucas (don't know how they spell it). Hansen has a rift with Henrik?
Saw it confirmed on Twitter too.
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