GDT: Canes vs. Lightning, Mario Kart Edition (1/19)

the halleJOKEL

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Argue against it? On the contrary, I'm a true believer now man. I was in the midst of an epiphany as I woke up this morning after a dream I had last night. In it, Our forwards would circle with the puck in the offensive zone, circling, circling, displaying complete puck possession ownage vs the 1 defender who hadn't dropped his stick. When his shift was almost through he passed it to 1 of his 4 wide-open teammates who, after looping around the back of the net to outside the dots again in his own display of PPO, lobbed a shot. 45 times during the game they did this. By this last time the crowd, including myself, was on its feet going absolutely nuts in appreciation.

With the clock ticking down in the final minute and as the opposing D-man skated that last rebound out of his zone you could feel that this fan energy from having just witnessed our team's hockey awesomeness wasn't abating. A lame 3 seconds later as the D-man fed the puck to his winger you knew this excitement we were feeling wasn't going to be contained. Fans were out of their seats and flowing into the aisles and streaming down towards the ice as the winger's linemate went top shelf with a one-timer in a sad display of barely touching the puck but stopping the game which was a good thing, since by that time fans were actually on the ice and rushing the home team players in mob-mentality celebration, and I was right there alongside them. The sound of the scoreboard reading 0-1 crashing down had me look up, and that's where I saw The Light.

Then I woke up feeling this way, which is to say, enlightened as to what true winning really is.

#thingsthatreallyhappened
 

garnetpalmetto

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This thread deserved a better fate than an ugly L. I blame Maniscalco last night for guaranteeing a win over the Bolts. Even with his caveat, it was setting us up for defeat.
 

oNLy1cube

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Bellemore benched for the past 2 games? Has he fallen out of favor since Liles has come in or what?
 

tarheelhockey

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Bellemore benched for the past 2 games? Has he fallen out of favor since Liles has come in or what?

I'm not sure it has as much to do with Liles as it does with having a healthy roster in which Bellemore was always intended to be the #7 guy.

He's also in a bit of a tough spot right now because Komisarek plays exactly the same role he does. Of the two, Bellemore is less experienced and a little more prone to getting caught flat-footed. I don't think we'll see a lot of him going forward, unless Muller or injuries demand a change.
 

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I would have preferred not seeing JP until the Buf/Otttawa btb, but it is understandable after a busy night in the net last night and the earlier start today.

I hope I am wrong but I have a bad feeling that Peters gets torched by Tampa that he either gets pulled or forces us to use Dobby even more (the BTB's leading up to the break).

Dobby was dead tired last night... Prolly not as much physically, but mentally. He did not want to play. Needed a recharge. But, heck, it happened. can't blame him on one of the goals. Sux that he took the L
 

Clark Gillies

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Dobby was dead tired last night... Prolly not as much physically, but mentally. He did not want to play. Needed a recharge. But, heck, it happened. can't blame him on one of the goals. Sux that he took the L

I figured as much, which is why I said I understood it and was just hoping he could make it to a game better suited for a guy in net who hasn't played in awhile.
It is too bad that he needed a day to recharge the batteries and then had to throw him out there for 2 periods.

I will never understand or agree with the NHL -- If a goalie leaves the game losing and the team never ties the game, he should get the loss, regardless of how many goals the losing team scores. In baseball if when a pitcher gets pulled he is the pitcher of record (win or loss) unless the lead changes or the score becomes tied (If a pitcher gets pulled losing 4 - 0, a reliever gives up 1 run and then the losing team scores 4 in the bottom of the ninth, the reliever that gave up 1 doesn't get the loss.
 

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I figured as much, which is why I said I understood it and was just hoping he could make it to a game better suited for a guy in net who hasn't played in awhile.
It is too bad that he needed a day to recharge the batteries and then had to throw him out there for 2 periods.

I will never understand or agree with the NHL -- If a goalie leaves the game losing and the team never ties the game, he should get the loss, regardless of how many goals the losing team scores. In baseball if when a pitcher gets pulled he is the pitcher of record (win or loss) unless the lead changes or the score becomes tied (If a pitcher gets pulled losing 4 - 0, a reliever gives up 1 run and then the losing team scores 4 in the bottom of the ninth, the reliever that gave up 1 doesn't get the loss.

I agree. So stupid that many fans blame Dobby.
 

Clark Gillies

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Bellemore benched for the past 2 games? Has he fallen out of favor since Liles has come in or what?

No, Murphy is a casualty of Liles.
Harrison healthy is more the reason for the Bellemore scratches.
To be honest Bellemore has looked like crap the last handful of games and needed to be in press box.
 

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Also Komi has played his best hockey as a Cane over the past two games. Hope he keeps it...if he does we should send Murphy to Charlotte.
 

What the Faulk

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I agree. So stupid that many fans blame Dobby.

Who's blaming him?

Bellemore has struggled lately, and Harrison/Komisarek have played fairly well the last few. You're not going to bench any of the top 4 for him, so you're basically rotating 4 guys on the bottom pairing, and all put together, I'm not sure any of them make one mediocre defenseman right now. May as well just ride players until they start sucking.
 

kimdimasan

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Who's blaming him?

I'm reading several blogs, forums and threads about Hurricanes. There are many comments like "We lost cause Peters and Dobby sucked and Bishop is very tall man", "Dobby dissapointed cause he must shut games like this", "We have two poor goallies".
 

What the Faulk

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Bishop went cheat mode last night, so anyone would look bad compared to him. Peters was the victim of several defensive breakdowns and Khudobin was completely exhausted. I'd put the loss squarely at the feet of the first pairing defensemen.
 

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I'd put the loss squarely at the feet of the first pairing defensemen.

Looking at it simplistically, it might appear so, except that's scape-goating and just downright mean to say. Plus, Sekera and Faulk were each a -4 but since +/- (as everyone knows) is the most useless stat in hockey, reflecting nothing, one must look elsewhere to decipher the cause. On a hunch, I ran the game through my Corsi-Fenwick 3000X and, sure enough, it tells me this loss lies squarely at the feet of some bad, anomalistic puck luck combined with peaking sunspot activity. Seeing this, I've begun some very interesting research as to whether this PL-Solar Flare spike is correlation or causation and how outliers can be affected. I'll give regular updates of my work for anyone else interested.

Anyway, no player is to blame. Just a bit of bad mojo. Everything and everyone is doin' fine.
 
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the halleJOKEL

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Looking at it simplistically, it might appear so, except that's scape-goating and just downright mean to say. Plus, Sekera and Faulk were each a -4 but since +/- (as everyone knows) is the most useless stat in hockey, reflecting nothing, one must look elsewhere to decipher the cause. On a hunch, I ran the game through my Corsi-Fenwick 3000X and, sure enough, it tells me this loss lies squarely at the feet of some bad, anomalistic puck luck combined with peaking sunspot activity. Seeing this, I've begun some very interesting research as to whether this PL-Solar Flare spike is correlation or causation and how outliers can be affected. I'll give regular updates of my work for anyone else interested.

Anyway, no player is to blame. Just a bit of bad mojo. Everything and everyone is doin' fine.

this is adorable
 

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So Ruutu playing as little as he did wasn't a message or a prelude to a trade? It was just "he's benched because we need to score"?
 

RodTheBawd

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So Ruutu playing as little as he did wasn't a message or a prelude to a trade? It was just "he's benched because we need to score"?

That was the impression I got. It's tough to watch a guy that works his ass off struggling as much as he is.

This is somewhat random, but, does Dvorak use a much longer than standard stick? Maybe it's just the coloring of it, but it looks like he uses the same size stick as Chara.
 

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While I don't expect Ruutu to score a goal, we needed to screen a guy like Bishop if we wanted to tie that game. And at the very least, he could have done that.
 

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If he had any trade value at all before this (considering his contract), I suspect he would have already been traded.

You would be surprised, but Canes are/were afraid to let him go through waivers on his way back to AHL. (Stupid as it may sound)

SORRY: I thought you were talking about Peters.
 
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