GDT: Canes @ Sabres - Certain To Be Postponed - Date TBD

[Sens1Canes2]

I am not jumping on Komi at all, i think somewhere you have to put Murphy in and in the last games we played i liked a lot Komi more than Harrison.

That point is now moot, as Murphy was sent to the Checkers this morning.

 

[Incubajerks]

That point is now moot, as Murphy was sent to the Checkers this morning.

I didn't read the news, better in ahl playing than sitting in the press box.

 

[rocky7]

I am not jumping on Komi at all, i think somewhere you have to put Murphy in and in the last games we played i liked a lot Komi more than Harrison.

I didn't mean to imply that you were, it's just that during the game, as soon as he mishandled the puck (Harrison/Komi has surprised many I'm sure), some took the chance to crap on the guy who has actually been playing very well, especially in the bottom pairing role.

anyway, too bad for Murph. I don't like what they have been doing with him from the start of the season but yeah........and zero confidence in development on the farm.

 

[What the Faulk]

So has everyone now migrated here who used to frequent that other board?

 

[Joe McGrath]

I didn't mean to imply that you were, it's just that during the game, as soon as he mishandled the puck (Harrison/Komi has surprised many I'm sure), some took the chance to crap on the guy who has actually been playing very well, especially in the bottom pairing role.

anyway, too bad for Murph. I don't like what they have been doing with him from the start of the season but yeah........and zero confidence in development on the farm.

They had to send Murphy down now for him to play during the Olympics. Better to spend the full month in Charlotte playing probably on the top pair than not at all for 3 weeks in February .

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

If Harrison is out of the line-up and Bellemore (or even Murphy) is inserted into the line-up, I don't think it really improves anything. For years, the general consensus was that Harrison was fine as a bottom pairing guy, but unfortunately, the Canes had to use him in the top 4. Now the Canes are actually using him like they should.

He and Komi will have some hiccups along the way because if they didn't, then they wouldn't be bottom pairing guys. I'm fine with them as the bottom pairing for now. Give them ~20-25 shifts a night, ~13-14 min/game, mainly defensive zone starts and/or PK.

 

[DaveG]

So has everyone now migrated here who used to frequent that other board?

No, still a few that I would love to see come over that I haven't seen yet. Not unless the Judge is posting under a new pseudonym. Can't say I've heard from JeffBear in a while either since he went over there, posted here for a long time but I haven't seen him here probably since the lockout.

 

[Ole Gil]

Maybe another statistical coincidence, but the two guys who jumped in early and hard on JR's decision to callout Semin being the work of a clueless idiot (vagrant/jokel) are also the two who are most adamant nothing has changed about Semin's play.

Possibly a bit of biased based on being invested in a separate position?

 

[Joe McGrath]

Maybe another statistical coincidence, but the two guys who jumped in early and hard on JR's decision to callout Semin being the work of a clueless idiot (vagrant/jokel) are also the two who are most adamant nothing has changed about Semin's play.

Possibly a bit of biased based on being invested in a separate position?

No one likes a flip-flopper.

 

[What the Faulk]

No, still a few that I would love to see come over that I haven't seen yet. Not unless the Judge is posting under a new pseudonym. Can't say I've heard from JeffBear in a while either since he went over there, posted here for a long time but I haven't seen him here probably since the lockout.

It's been awhile, but I remember both of those guys. Always had great insight.

Maybe another statistical coincidence, but the two guys who jumped in early and hard on JR's decision to callout Semin being the work of a clueless idiot (vagrant/jokel) are also the two who are most adamant nothing has changed about Semin's play.

Possibly a bit of biased based on being invested in a separate position?

I'm okay with lumping myself into that category too. I don't know how many ways to state it though, and how much proof needs to be put forth. He's always generated a ton of chances off the rush, and his raw numbers (goals, points) are starting to fall in line with his career.

 

[RodTheBawd]

I guess I'm in the "Semin looks better" boat, barely. I think the line between him scoring and not was very thin, and he has taken a slightly more direct approach that has paid off so far. Obviously that % is not sustainable over any stretch and he'll come back down to earth, but I didn't realize there was much debate over him being a little more direct as of late.

 

[Wild Caniac]

Murphy over Harrison on saturday pls.

 

[DaveG]

Murphy over Harrison on saturday pls.

Too late, he's in Charlotte. Bellemore's a possibility though.

 

[Ole Gil]

I'm okay with lumping myself into that category too. I don't know how many ways to state it though, and how much proof needs to be put forth. He's always generated a ton of chances off the rush, and his raw numbers (goals, points) are starting to fall in line with his career.

I don't remember anyone saying 'his wrist is fine, it's just a statistical anomaly.' The point being, something 'being off' that people couldn't quite put their finger on was, I think, a board wide thing.

 

[What the Faulk]

Well I think most are saying nothing has changed in the play-style. It's certainly possible/probable that his wrist was holding back the velocity on his shot, causing his slow start. But his style hasn't really changed.

 

[rocky7]

They had to send Murphy down now for him to play during the Olympics. Better to spend the full month in Charlotte playing probably on the top pair than not at all for 3 weeks in February .

yeah I hadn't thought about that.

 

[RodTheBawd]

I'd be interested to know which wrist has the issue (but appreciate that Feeddapuck shouldn't divulge that info). Left hand would obviously impact everything, but if his stickhandling hasn't been affected much and his shot has, I'd lean towards his right.

 

[Ole Gil]

Well I think most are saying nothing has changed in the play-style. It's certainly possible/probable that his wrist was holding back the velocity on his shot, causing his slow start. But his style hasn't really changed.

What I'm getting at, is people are saying he had just been unlucky, and now his luck has changed. But they were saying his wrist was the problem earlier. So they didn't believe it was luck before, now they do believe it's luck.

The bigger point, again being, that something was believably off and it seems to have stopped being off. And if it was just bad luck, nobody believed that to be the case prior to his outburst.

 

[Wild Caniac]

Too late, he's in Charlotte. Bellemore's a possibility though.

Ugh, well Bellemore would be better probably. A few games in the press box was probably what he needed. Hopefully he gets out of his slump.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Ugh, well Bellemore would be better probably. A few games in the press box was probably what he needed. Hopefully he gets out of his slump.

I think your expectations are too high for a bottom pairing defenseman. I say leave the pairings as is and let them get some stability. There will be errors (as we saw even with Faulk/Sekera against Tampa). I don't see how having Bellemore in there really makes that much of a difference either way. If there are a string of games where the same mistakes are made over and over again, then that's a different story and time to make a change.

 

[rocky7]

and there will most probably be injuries to deal with.

 

[Wild Caniac]

I think your expectations are too high for a bottom pairing defenseman. I say leave the pairings as is and let them get some stability. There will be errors (as we saw even with Faulk/Sekera against Tampa). I don't see how having Bellemore in there really makes that much of a difference either way. If there are a string of games where the same mistakes are made over and over again, then that's a different story and time to make a change.

Harrison has been wildly inconsistent this year. Bellemore was doing great, then he peaked, and fell off a bit. He's been scratched a few games, and he has had time to learn a little from his mistakes. I think he deserves to be back in the lineup tomorrow.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Harrison has been wildly inconsistent this year. Bellemore was doing great, then he peaked, and fell off a bit. He's been scratched a few games, and he has had time to learn a little from his mistakes. I think he deserves to be back in the lineup tomorrow.

I disagree. I'm not a Harrison fan, but I feel that Bellemore in the past month+ has been just as inconsistent. He's also had the benefit stability by playing with Hainsey on a somewhat consistent basis vs. Harrison getting lined up a variety of guys, many guys who aren't as stable (and Murphy really struggles defensively).

Since Harrison has been paired with Komisarek, the team has played fairly well and is winning games, so no need to break that up until either (a) they really start ******** the bed for multiple games in a row..or (b) the team starts losing a lot.

 

[geehaad]

Harrison can definitely take some accountability on the first two goals last night. The first was the bouncing puck, which I will go ahead and say that he himself would say he could have done a much better job corralling, or at least defending. The second was when he and Khudobin were hunched over a dead puck in the crease and Harrison swiped it away from Khudobin, but not well enough to get it out of harms way...just about 6 feet to his left, where the net was emptiest.

 

[rocky7]

I may be a might optimistic but I worry about the development of Murphy. the guy has a potential upside to be a player like Letang or Karlsson and I hope that they don't end up squashing his offense while focusing on his defense along the way.