GDT: Canes @ Hawks: TT because I’m crying

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

It's less the contract I'm worried about than the roster spot. KK doesn't play well on wing. Maybe you put Drury on the wing, but he's always been a center at every level. Aho, Miller, Staal, and Drury or KK. So to make room, you have to move whichever one Vancouver prefers, and give the other one the job.

And even with the cap going up, $4.8 is a lot to pay for a 4C.

Staal is going to be 37 this year. If Miller or similar-caliber player is acquired w/o KK coming back, the future center lineup is likely Aho-Miller-KK-Drury once Jordo hangs up the skates. That's a 4-deep lineup that can be strong for at least the medium-term. I'd play someone like Drury on the wing until Staal hangs it up.

I'm not saying, BTW, that the Canes should not do a KK for Miller trade. All that I'm saying is that the Canes have the luxury to be patient to get the right trade because of their long-term cap situation.

 

[hblueridgegal]

Miller will take some shaping into Rod's image. He's intense, but often in a negative way, not a positive way. One of the things that makes Rod unique is that his intensity is channeled towards encouragement and support, not anger and diminishment. Accountability, yes, belittlement, no. (With refs excluded from this analysis, of course.) Miller is a guy who reportedly can and frequently does go the other way, especially when things are going poorly. But I have great faith in Rod to bring out the best in people.

AG seems fairly adamant that it's a no go.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

The Hurricanes and their dogshit team are currently 3rd in the East

 

[AD Skinner]

 

[Chrispy]

The Hurricanes and their dogshit team are currently 3rd in the East

 

[MinJaBen]

I'm a pretty strong KK defender myself. I will say that KK for Miller is a more difficult decision than just the on-the-surface numbers. At his best, KK's more valuable both-ways than the raw counting stats say, and he's a 25-and-under player who's still developing, in many ways. It still might be worth gambling a bit with age and contract to get JT Miller's offense, but that's up to our analytical nerds.

KK for Miller would be Rask for Nino levels of good. Rask had his defenders too....mostly in Minnesota, but what ever.

 

[Joe McGrath]

For as little as KK has done - he has 1 less goal and 4 less points than Elias Lindholm does this year. In the first year of a 7 year 7.75 million dollar contract.

Just to put into context what a really terrible contract looks like.

 

[Stickpucker]

It looked like after he scored in OT Aho was fiery and calling out or talking smack to someone.

It was hard to tell bc the zoom on the camera. Anyone know if it was Mrazek or someone else?

 

[AD Skinner]

It looked like after he scored in OT Aho was fiery and calling out or talking smack to someone.

It was hard to tell bc the zoom on the camera. Anyone know if it was Mrazek or someone else?

Teravainen? I have no insight into this just guessing based on their previous relationship

 

[Stickpucker]

Teravainen? I have no insight into this just guessing based on their previous relationship

It looked like someone on the ice. Hall and Bedard were the two forwards.

 

[tarheelhockey]

It looked like after he scored in OT Aho was fiery and calling out or talking smack to someone.

It was hard to tell bc the zoom on the camera. Anyone know if it was Mrazek or someone else?

After Mrazek left the net, Bedard one-timed the loose puck back into it out of frustration. Aho definitely did look like he was pumping his fist in that direction. Hard to say, but there may have been something going on between those two.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

I know we're bummed about the top guys' production right now, but eye test alone, Blake looked good next to Aho and Svech and that's fun to see.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

KK for Miller would be Rask for Nino levels of good. Rask had his defenders too....mostly in Minnesota, but what ever.

If it's straight-up, sure. This isn't going to be a straight-up trade - also, unlike Rask for Nino, a swap of players of identical ages and equivalent contracts, KK for Miller swaps a 24 year old for a 31 year old with a long-term $8M/year contract that's almost double the young guy's cap hit. In that sense, a Miller trade carries significantly more risk. I'm not saying that they shouldn't do a trade here, I'm just saying that there's a decent amount of risk here.

 

[CanesUltimate11]

Aho with the casual "oh I guess I'll head to bench and change.... Syke! now I'm behind everyone for a one timer" goal. Very well played with Necas as always.

 

[AD Skinner]

Maybe all that gabbing by aho at the end there was letting the hawks know they’d fallen victim to one of the classic blunders

 

[cptjeff]

After Mrazek left the net, Bedard one-timed the loose puck back into it out of frustration. Aho definitely did look like he was pumping his fist in that direction. Hard to say, but there may have been something going on between those two.

Mighta been saying not to show up your own goalie like that. Mrazek is Necas's closest friend, and I'd bet he's still good friends with guys like Aho.

 

[Bunch of Jurcos]

Maybe all that gabbing by aho at the end there was letting the hawks know they’d fallen victim to one of the classic blunders

I didn't know Aho was part Sicilian.

 

[MinJaBen]

I didn't know Aho was part Sicilian.

But he said more than one classic blunder...

 

[DaveG]

I didn't know Aho was part Sicilian.

you FOOL

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

bedard was super overrated. he was a good prospect but he'll do well to get to Jack Hughes level, which still isn't league changing or anything. Nowhere near a McDavid like he was hyped to be

 

[Bunch of Jurcos]

But he said more than one classic blunder...

It just made sense. Never face a Sicilian when (sudden) death (overtime) is on the line.

 

[Chrispy]

I didn't know Aho was part Sicilian.

 

[chaz4hockey]

bedard was super overrated. he was a good prospect but he'll do well to get to Jack Hughes level, which still isn't league changing or anything. Nowhere near a McDavid like he was hyped to be

Overrated--then we should shun Miller and do a deal with KK for Bedard