Confirmed with Link: Canadiens Will Pick 5th (Hughes Presser in OP) NO POLITICS

[Jaynki]

The whole KH and Smith connection kind of scares me. What I mean is, even if a better player is available, he might draft him instead.

Who better than Smith will be available at 5?

 

[ReHabs]

Really? would you want to live there under that regime? and your option are to live in NA?

He can live and work in NA without making himself a refugee. Like Ovechkin, Malkin, Panarin, Kaprizov, Kucherov, and dozens of other Russian players in the NHL. Can you imagine that?

People talk about the risk associated with Michkov but what about the risk in not taking him? What if he comes over and becomes the next Kucherov while we opted for a safer pick?

To me that’s almost a bigger risk to take.

It absolutely is the bigger risk and one of the strongest arguments against skipping him.

If you skip on the prospect who is producing at an Ovechkin/Malkin level you are a bozo.

 

[SlafySZN]

People talk about the risk associated with Michkov but what about the risk in not taking him? What if he comes over and becomes the next Kucherov while we opted for a safer pick?

To me that’s almost a bigger risk to take.

Yeah and in that case it’s almost better he gets picked before us so we don’t have to find out if the habs would take him or not for sure.

At the same time Hughes said they will draft the best avalaible and he included Michkov. So they can’t really justify taking someone else if he’s on the board.

 

[jrom]

LOL, please ! They drafted Dubois in 2016. They can surprise us.

Again CBJ director of scouting is AGM for Swedish team at WC (with Carlsson)

 

[JoelWarlord]

Slafkovsky has been a disappointing 1OA and as soon as there is a clear superior player that emerges from that draft this will be held against the front office until proven otherwise.

I think it’s fair enough — the 1OA is a big responsibility. It could be they didn’t evaluate Slafkovsky correctly.

I get it. I don't care to rehash the pick but I only bring it up because for some reason the Slafkovsky pick (which was Bob McKenzie's #1 going #1) is being used to justify this nonsense idea that they don't value skill when they traded for Dach, picked Hutson, and took Mesar in the 1st round as well (he's been disappointing but he's a 5'10" winger they picked solely for his skill and skating). It's fine if people don't trust them over the Slafkovsky pick, but it wasn't somehow a "non skill" pick.

I just find it really bizarre to watch Dach all year and still have this "they don't care about skill" narrative be so pervasive in here.

 

[Runner77]

Well if you're not going to take Michkov, you might as well get paid to take Leonard, Dvorsky, Benson or Reinbacher.

But I agree, they should be trying to talk trade up with CBJ or SJS.

They can evidently entertain both scenarios and should — the prohibitively costly or disadvantageous ones will eliminate themselves. An experienced negotiator like Hughes won’t lock himself on any position until having all the variables. Confident that we’ll have a favorable outcome.

 

[Jaynki]

If you skip on the prospect who is producing at an Ovechkin/Malkin level you are a bozo.

Don't talk to us in terms of Risk/Reward ratio if you skip Michkov at 5.

Its pretty easy to land the 5th overall. On the other hand, getting your hand on a player like Michkov is such a rare occurence, no teams had the chance in the last 3 draft.

Truth is, if Michkov is adamant about his desire to be in the NHL and is making himself assuring about coming at the end of his contract, the Ducks that missed on Bedard may just snag him

Michkov has the potential to be a top 5 player jn the league in his prime

Bozo is such a small word in this case.

 

[rik schau]

He can live and work in NA without making himself a refugee. Like Ovechkin, Malkin, Panarin, Kaprizov, Kucherov, and dozens of other Russian players in the NHL. Can you imagine that?

Yes,he has a lot of options,all depends what his objective is and how he feels about ''situations.''

And you want to live there if you had better options?

 

[Jaynki]

Again CBJ director of scouting is AGM for Swedish team at WC (with Carlsson)

Might be nothing more than smoke.

 

[Runner77]

It would be incredibly stupid to draft Michkov, the highest touted forward to come out of Russia in 20 years, just because "they don't want Russians"

Y'know it could be a ploy. They know they've had a leak and went Tyrion on their suspetcs.

I'll believe it if and when they pass on Michkov.

We’d have to be pretty naive to take anything GMs are saying about the draft and potential draftees at this time when they know that they can compromise their negotiating leverage by being candid. All we have as fans, is our trust in those involved in the process. Until anything is officially done or transacted, their words are mostly meaningless.

 

[salbutera]

I simply want to know what Keith Jones’ vision to execute his mandate from Comcast.

I’m willing to wager it isn’t a rebuild …. does that make Philly 1st rounder available?

 

[ReHabs]

Don't talk to us in terms of Risk/Reward ratio if you skip Michkov at 5.

Its pretty easy to land the 5th overall. On the other hand, getting your hand on a player like Michkov is such a rare occurence, no teams had the chance in the last 3 draft.

Truth is, if Michkov is adamant about his desire to be in the NHL and is making himself assuring about coming at the end of his contract, the Ducks that missed on Bedard may just snag him

Michkov has the potential to be a top 5 player jn the league in his prime

Bozo is such a small word in this case.

Yeah it goes beyond risk/reward. It’s downright self-sabotage to skip him.

Imagine you had the option to acquire the next Kucherov and all you had to do is take the next three years coaxing him to not re-sign with his KHL team (after he’s said he would want to come anyway!). Every single NHL franchise would jump at that opportunity.

Except… big brain Habs…

Hopefully not.

 

[Wats]

There's no comparison between Mailloux and Mitchkov other than the fact they have 8 letter names that start with M.

I'm not comparing players, it is overlooking potential backlash and making a pick.

 

[SlafySZN]

Imagine they draft Michkov and next year he only score 12 points in 60 games in the KHL Does it mean he’s a bust who won’t ever score points at any levels?

Some here will lose their mind.

 

[ReHabs]

I get it. I don't care to rehash the pick but I only bring it up because for some reason the Slafkovsky pick (which was Bob McKenzie's #1 going #1) is being used to justify this nonsense idea that they don't value skill when they traded for Dach, picked Hutson, and took Mesar in the 1st round as well (he's been disappointing but he's a 5'10" winger they picked solely for his skill and skating). It's fine if people don't trust them over the Slafkovsky pick, but it wasn't somehow a "non skill" pick.

I just find it really bizarre to watch Dach all year and still have this "they don't care about skill" narrative be so pervasive in here.

I think they do value skill but the Habs have been garbage under HuGo (not their fault…) so it’s hard to say we had much skill to display.

Dach is a 50-odd point player right now, when he becomes a protagonist many people will start to trust HuGo more.

We need point producers so badly.

 

[Runner77]

It absolutely is the bigger risk and one of the strongest arguments against skipping him.

If you skip on the prospect who is producing at an Ovechkin/Malkin level you are a bozo.

Or, if you don’t get highly compensated for giving up that drafting position. All a matter of opportunity cost and negotiation.

 

[rik schau]

Imagine they draft Michkov and next year he only score 12 points in 60 games in the KHL Does it mean he’s a bust who won’t ever score points at any levels?

Some here will lose their mind.

Too late! lol.

 

[SlafySZN]

Yeah it goes beyond risk/reward. It’s downright self-sabotage to skip him.

Imagine you had the option to acquire the next Kucherov and all you had to do is take the next three years coaxing him to not re-sign with his KHL team (after he’s said he would want to come anyway!). Every single NHL franchise would jump at that opportunity.

Except… big brain Habs…

Hopefully not.

Then one of Ducks, Colombus and SJ should take him, no?

 

[Jaynki]

Yeah it goes beyond risk/reward. It’s downright self-sabotage to skip him.

Imagine you had the option to acquire the next Kucherov and all you had to do is take the next three years coaxing him to not re-sign with his KHL team (after he’s said he would want to come anyway!). Every single NHL franchise would jump at that opportunity.

Except… big brain Habs…

Hopefully not.

Honestly, i am more "afraid" he is not there at 5 then we would skip him there.

Michkov has the potential to be a top 5 NHL players in his prime.

Gorton and Hughes are experienced enough to know that a 5th overall pick is an abundant spot where as getting a Michkov is a 1% opportunity.

Then one of Ducks, Colombus and SJ should take him, no?

If Michkov is assuring teams he is coming to the NHL, me thinks he may be picked 2nd. The teams that just missed Bedard may want its shot at another exceptional prospect.

 

[River Meadow]

Definitely. Although I have Benson/Reinbacher/Leonard/Dvorsky roughly in the same tier, Benson is the upside pick in there. If they're not keen on picking Michkov, then at least Benson is the closest they can get to a potential star I think.

Why not Leonard over Benson?

Bigger, stronger, faster.

 

[ReimanSum1908]

If Bedard/Carlsson/Fantilli/Smith are gone, and we do not want to take Michkov...

Should we give more thought to Benson?

Marvelous to turn this season into a complete waste for the rebuild, just like last year with our botched first overall pick.

He's one of the prospects whom I'm confident will bust. Rather go off the board than draft Benson.

 

[Runner77]

LOL, please ! They drafted Dubois in 2016. They can surprise us.

Jarmo has proven that he can be completely unpredictable. How many of us in here thought that he wouldn’t pass on Puljujarvi?

 

[Sterling Archer]

People talk about the risk associated with Michkov but what about the risk in not taking him? What if he comes over and becomes the next Kucherov while we opted for a safer pick?

To me that’s almost a bigger risk to take.

To me, that IS the biggest risk.

Imagine they draft Michkov and next year he only score 12 points in 60 games in the KHL Does it mean he’s a bust who won’t ever score points at any levels?

Some here will lose their mind.

Imagine that happens to any of these top 5 picks...

 

[SlafySZN]

Jarmo has proven that he can be completely unpredictable. How many of us in here thought that he wouldn’t pass on Puljujarvi?

Very true.

 

[NekkiChiconey]

Why not Leonard over Benson?

Bigger, stronger, faster.

I'd be fine with Leonard to be honest (disappointed if he's the pick over Michkov though). However, I think Benson has the highest IQ in this draft, out of anyone not named Bedard. He'll get stronger and faster, no doubt. I guess you could say he has a lower floor but higher ceiling, even though I don't like these terms.