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Him signing a 5 years deal is from his father making him sign a 5 years deal 2 years ago. There’s 3 years left. He’s said he wants to play in the NHL. He’s in America next week. He’s not signing another contract. The so-called Russian insider just rehashed publicly available information and sprinkled in 8 years. It’s obvious he didn’t know Michkov’s situation from a hole in the wall.
There have been rumours of him signing another 2 year extension and it's been discussed at length here and on the prospects board. As for the 8 year thing, I can't speak to where the guy got it from, but it's out there. Don't pretend that teams aren't worried about this because it's being talked about whether you like it or not. Slagging on some guy because he says things you don't want to believe.
 
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Yeah from all I've seen.. Arizona wants Reinbacher badly. Philadelphia will take whoever is there between Leonard and Dvorsky.. leaving Michkov for Washington, and if they pass, Vancouver looks like the next logical place.

But considering the risk on Michkov, the teams behind the Habs aren't going to pay additional assets to assume the risk, and if you are trying to jump the Washington spot, you are too far back to pick Reinbacher, Dvorsky or Leonard.
I am a big Léonard fan. Big mean, plays big, scores goals and seems to be a great team player. So I guess it’s Leonard at 5!!
 
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2. That's why I don't trust Hughes or anybody at the draft table.

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Not anybody as in no human beings?

In that case, how about a committee formed by Alexa, Siri, ChatGPT and Craig Ferguson’s robot Geoff? They’ll draft by combining lists of draft experts while allotting greater weight to authoritative rankings like BobbyMac’s. Tie breakers will be settled by a prognosticating chimpanzee.

Can they do any worse than the league’s most clueless GM?
 
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If you call Michkov a one-dimentional goal scorer they f***ing lose their shit.
It’s almost as if that dimension is a lot more valuable than Premium Grinder like Kunitz or Shaw.

Leonard might end up being a fluid skating player you win Playoff Games with but his reasonable upside is not a PPG player.

Hope we draft him!
 
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There have been rumours of him signing another 2 year extension and it's been discussed at length here and on the prospects board. As for the 8 year thing, I can't speak to where the guy got it from, but it's out there. Don't pretend that teams aren't worried about this because it's being talked about whether you like it or not. Slagging on some guy because he says things you don't want to believe.
I made my research on the topic myself. There’s nothing there except a couple of KHL employees adding an extra year everytime a blogger calls them. Nothing from Michkov at all. Everything from Michkov points the other way. I’m not worried either that he might be diagnosed with a terminal illness or that he gets a freak horse-riding accident. Maybe I’m just wallowing in a world of make believe.
 
Not anybody as in no human beings?

In that case, how about a committee formed by Alexa, Siri, ChatGPT and Craig Ferguson’s robot Geoff? They’ll draft by combining lists of draft prognosticators while allotting greater weight to authoritative rankings like BobbyMac’s.

Can they do any worse than the league’s most clueless GM?
I think I saw sometime that the consensus rankings still beats any one GM or Head Scout’s record.
 
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Something I’ve been wondering about Michkov (if we decide to pass) is how low our pick would have to be for us to take him assuming he’d still be available…10th? 15th? 20th? Outside of the first round?

Like at what point do you suddenly decide it’s worth it? It seems so arbitrary.
 
Something I’ve been wondering about Michkov (if we decide to pass) is how low our pick would have to be for us to take him assuming he’d still be available…10th? 15th? 20th? Outside of the first round?

Like at what point do you suddenly decide it’s worth it? It seems so arbitrary.

Looks like it would be right around pick 8.
 
I made my research on the topic myself. There’s nothing there except a couple of KHL employees adding an extra year everytime a blogger calls them. Nothing from Michkov at all. Everything from Michkov points the other way. I’m not worried either that he might be diagnosed with a terminal illness or that he gets a freak horse-riding accident. Maybe I’m just wallowing in a world of make believe.
Except for signing a long-term deal in the KHL in the first place. But hey, maybe it was just to throw people off.

It’s almost as if that dimension is a lot more valuable than Premium Grinder like Kunitz or Shaw.

Leonard might end up being a fluid skating player you win Playoff Games with but his reasonable upside is not a PPG player.

Hope we draft him!
I also hope we draft someone that helps us win in the playoffs.
 
Except for signing a long-term deal in the KHL in the first place. But hey, maybe it was just to throw people off.
Considering it was his father that negotiated it when he was 15 years old and is now dead, I would say it’s a long shot.
 
I think I saw sometime that the consensus rankings still beats any one GM or Head Scout’s record.
Exactly where I was going except I was using non-human intermediaries to get there.
 
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Something I’ve been wondering about Michkov (if we decide to pass) is how low our pick would have to be for us to take him assuming he’d still be available…10th? 15th? 20th? Outside of the first round?

Like at what point do you suddenly decide it’s worth it? It seems so arbitrary.
Depends somewhat also on the time window Hugo are looking at with what they know and when they’d like a core/budget locked they can build with I’d say. There’s probably a point where you trade picks for assets too.
 
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Not anybody as in no human beings?

In that case, how about a committee formed by Alexa, Siri, ChatGPT and Craig Ferguson’s robot Geoff? They’ll draft by combining lists of draft experts while allotting greater weight to authoritative rankings like BobbyMac’s. Tie breakers will be settled by a prognosticating chimpanzee.

Can they do any worse than the league’s most clueless GM?

I forget the name of it, but there's a bot out there that does a mock every year purely based on height and their points equivalent in their league.

That's it, it just ranks the players and it has done pretty well. Certainly better than some scouting staffs :laugh:
 
Wheeler compares Leonard to Toffoli and calls him a 60-70 point guy who makes his teammates better and plays with some jam. ARE WE REALLY DOING THIS?

That's just f***ing gawd awful. Toffoli can't even skate. Leonard has Byron type explosiveness, and is able to protect the puck at top speed. He's got edges too that he can use quickly to change directions and make plays.

It's like saying a banana compares to an apple because they're both fruit. Yeah, Toffoli and Leonard are both hockey players. Comparison ends there.
 
It’s almost as if that dimension is a lot more valuable than Premium Grinder like Kunitz or Shaw.

Leonard might end up being a fluid skating player you win Playoff Games with but his reasonable upside is not a PPG player.

Hope we draft him!

thé cliché is “guys you win in the playoffs with” is so dumb. Keith Tkachuk was a power forward and sucked in the playoffs. People always said Gallgher would be great in the playoffs and he was always just fine. It being a genuine selling point on Leonard is one of the reasons i keep skepticism even if i’m largely convinced.
 
Except for signing a long-term deal in the KHL in the first place. But hey, maybe it was just to throw people off.


I also hope we draft someone that helps us win in the playoffs.
1) any 15 year old in Russia would commit to 200k USD a year. That’s incredibly good money.

2) We have zero PPG players. We need more. Sorry you disagree.

thé cliché is “guys you win in the playoffs with” is so dumb. Keith Tkachuk was a power forward and sucked in the playoffs. People always said Gallgher would be great in the playoffs and he was always just fine. It being a genuine selling point on Leonard is one of the reasons i keep skepticism even if i’m largely convinced.
Anderson, 6pts in 21 games in our finals run.

It’s such a pathetic cliché, especially for a team as bereft of skill and talent as ours.
 
thé cliché is “guys you win in the playoffs with” is so dumb. Keith Tkachuk was a power forward and sucked in the playoffs. People always said Gallgher would be great in the playoffs and he was always just fine. It being a genuine selling point on Leonard is one of the reasons i keep skepticism even if i’m largely convinced.
It’s BS that a given player is the guy you win Cups with. You need a bit of everything. Flyers have the reputation, deserved or not, of staying away from Europeans and getting good NA boys that play the right way. In a year, it’ll be 50 years since the Flyers won a Cup. All those hockey-tough character guys with sandpaper that play the right way and win you Cups have come and gone and are now forgotten.
 
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It’s BS that a given player is the guy you win Cups with. You need a bit of everything. Flyers have the reputation, deserved or not, of staying away from Europeans and getting good NA boys that play the right way. In a year, it’ll be 50 years since the Flyers won a Cup. All those hockey-tough character guys with sandpaper that play the right way and win you Cups have come and gone and are now forgotten.

yeah it’s an old school mindset that somehow tricks smart hockey people all the time

Leonard is a great prospect and I can easily see a 30 goal 75 point type of prime, but the “he knows how to win” stuff is just asinine and borderline insulting to use as a justification.
 
1) any 15 year old in Russia would commit to 200k USD a year. That’s incredibly good money.

2) We have zero PPG players. We need more. Sorry you disagree.
Where exactly did I say we don't need PPG players?

I said I wanted players that help us win in the playoffs.
 
Unless all those scouts are bluffing, no one will need to move up to 5 to get Reinbacher.

Scratch what I just said, I just noticed that Habs and Coyotes are drafting at 5 and 6.
It is in our best interest to keep bluffing about any player in that "best of the rest" tier (Leonard, Reinbacher, Benson) if we are indeed skipping Michkov.
 
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I don't understand why some people keep labelling Leonard a "grinder". Yes, the kid can grind, but clearly has skill. I suggest watching him closely.

I would not be disappointed if Leonard ends up our pick.
Some people just need to categorize, and the problem is they often use ready-made stereotypes to define their categories.

It's certainly saves time and reflexion effort.
 
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