Confirmed with Link: Canadiens Will Pick 5th (Hughes Presser in OP) NO POLITICS

[ZUKI]

I'm taking the cash all day. I'm a huge hab fan but I ain't stupid! lol Sorry puppy.


I'm only repeating it here. In a draft thread, on a hockey forum, named hockey future. about my favourite hockey team, who I'm passionate about. It's not my life mantra.

The human being will be fine, the hockey fan will be disappointed.

I realize what I say here has no bearing on their decisions. But what's the point of this forum if it isn't it's members opinions?

i apologize HabbyGuy, i realize my message sounded very rude, so sorry.
Yeah , we are here to share our opinions . I was just making fun about the number of time you are "repeating" yours

 

[waffledave]

It was just fair warning.



Nothing wrong with conviction. I'll take it over wishy washy any other day.

How far does your conviction go?

Pure hypothetical:

1 - Michkov doesn't come over for 5 years. Do you still take him? What about 8 years?

2 - Michkov rumours about his bad attitude, refusal (not inability) to play defense, etc... are true. You still take him? What if he has the exact personality of Galchenyuk?

 

[ZUKI]

I don't know what i hate most
Pizza or molson's piss beer

try to take both together . Complementary ingredients.

 

[ZUKI]

How far does your conviction go?

Pure hypothetical:

1 - Michkov doesn't come over for 5 years. Do you still take him? What about 8 years?

2 - Michkov rumours about his bad attitude, refusal (not inability) to play defense, etc... are true. You still take him? What if he has the exact personality of Galchenyuk?

Galchenyuk don't have a personality, he has a father.

 

[Retired]

Galchenyuk don't have a personality, he has a father.

How did I understand this?

 

[Retired]

I’m so glad y’all just mostly flat out stopped talking about hockey for a bit although I could do without the skunk images I cannot un-see now.

 

[HabbyGuy]

How far does your conviction go?

Pure hypothetical:

1 - Michkov doesn't come over for 5 years. Do you still take him? What about 8 years?

2 - Michkov rumours about his bad attitude, refusal (not inability) to play defense, etc... are true. You still take him? What if he has the exact personality of Galchenyuk?

1 - I can't see into the future man, my gut says he'll be here in 3 years tops. so not a concern in my eyes.

2 - I can't corroborate what exactly the attitude problems are, I would think these unsubstantiated issues will comfortably be figured out through the teams connection's in Russia and interview process. I'm not too concerned, atleast on the surface that a teenager who's been considered a hockey prodigy since his young age may have an ego. As I said he's a teenager with plenty of time to mature. This should be the easiest of information to acquire and work out.

My conviction is based on his hockey IQ and offensive talent. My conviction is that he is the most talented player with the highest of upside of any who would be available to us in the 5th spot. Hence the BPA. Especially considered our need for such a player, and the rare opportunity presenting itself here. Michkov, without these "mysteries" surrounding himself, would never be within our reach otherwise.

I cannot speak of what may happen in the future, only that within the information that we do know as fans looking in. That he should be the obvious choice, and that it would be far riskier to pass than to not.

Because I completely believe in his game, and don't believe on what cannot yet be confirmed.

 

[waffledave]

1 - I can't see into the future man, my gut says he'll be here in 3 years tops. so not a concern in my eyes.

2 - I can't collaborate what exactly the attitude problems are, I would think these unsubstantiated issues will comfortably be figured out through the teams connection's in Russia and interview process. I'm not too concerned, atleast on the surface that a teenager who's been considered a hockey prodigy since his young age may have an ego. As I said he's a teenager with plenty of time to mature. This should be the easiest of information to acquire and work out.

My conviction is based on his hockey IQ and offensive talent. My conviction is that he is the most talented player with the highest of upside of any who would be available to us in the 5th spot. Hence the BPA. Especially considered our need for such a player, and the rare opportunity presenting itself here. Michkov, without these "mysteries" surrounding himself, would never be within our reach otherwise.

I cannot speak of what may happen in the future, only that within the information that we do know as fans looking in. That he should be the obvious choice, and that it would be far riskier to pass than to not.

Because I completely believe in his game, and don't believe on what cannot yet be confirmed.

You didn't really answer my question. I get what you're saying. I know you can't tell the future. I'm asking you to assume these things are true and tell me if you'd still draft him.

 

[HabbyGuy]

You didn't really answer my question. I know you can't tell the future. I'm asking you to assume these things are true and tell me if you'd still draft him.

But you see that's the thing with a draft, we can't assume anything. We can only go with what we know, and from a hockey standpoint Michkov is a slam dunk blue chip prospect. The habs won't know any better than we will about the future of any pick they may make.

You make the best informed decision on what you project will happen in the future.

 

[Retired]

1 - I can't see into the future man, my gut says he'll be here in 3 years tops. so not a concern in my eyes.

2 - I can't collaborate what exactly the attitude problems are, I would think these unsubstantiated issues will comfortably be figured out through the teams connection's in Russia and interview process. I'm not too concerned, atleast on the surface that a teenager who's been considered a hockey prodigy since his young age may have an ego. As I said he's a teenager with plenty of time to mature. This should be the easiest of information to acquire and work out.

My conviction is based on his hockey IQ and offensive talent. My conviction is that he is the most talented player with the highest of upside of any who would be available to us in the 5th spot. Hence the BPA. Especially considered our need for such a player, and the rare opportunity presenting itself here. Michkov, without these "mysteries" surrounding himself, would never be within our reach otherwise.

I cannot speak of what may happen in the future, only that within the information that we do know as fans looking in. That he should be the obvious choice, and that it would be far riskier to pass than to not.

Because I completely believe in his game, and don't believe on what cannot yet be confirmed.

Thanks for the reminder 17 year olds are weird, eat all the fridge and don’t say thanks. He’ll be a different person twice by the time he’s 20.

Here is how hockey deals with attitude anyway so the little tyke will turn it right around lol.

 

[Runner77]

On Being Sold
@BenchBrawl jumped out to a huge lead but I think @HabbyGuy has run him down it's probably neck and neck coming into the home stretch.

Check in daily for your race updates.

I think @HabbyGuy may have taken the lead.

He’s still duking it out with @waffledave in what is the longest argument that never ended with a bet, nor a resolution. It’s been going on for days, at all hours.

Never seen anything like it.

 

[HabbyGuy]

i apologize HabbyGuy, i realize my message sounded very rude, so sorry.
Yeah , we are here to share our opinions . I was just making fun about the number of time you are "repeating" yours

It's all good, we're all passionate about our team, things can get both heated and annoying. I get it.

Cheers.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

1 thing i can't wait if we end up into Michkov or others due to the top 4 picking the 4 other guys considered top 5.

The people who only wants Michkov who will chance their stance after the other kid we pick will start smiling in front of the camera saying hes a good kid like last season , I still have some names who did it , shame-less-ness

 

[waffledave]

But you see that's the thing with a draft we can't assume anything we can only go with what we know, and from a hockey standpoint Michkov is a slam dunk blue chip prospect. The habs won't know any better than we will about the future of any pick they make make.

You make the best informed decision on what you think will happen in the future.

Dude I am asking you a hypothetical.

Would you draft him if it was known he would not come in 5 years? And 8 years?

Would you draft him if it was known he has attitude issues and refuses to play defense?

It's a pure hypothetical. Trying to determine at which point pure talent can he offset.

I think @HabbyGuy may have taken the lead.

He’s still duking it out with @waffledave in what is the longest argument that never ended with a bet, nor a resolution. It’s been going on for days, at all hours.

Never seen anything like it.

When you got a baby you are awake at all hours.

 

[HabbyGuy]

Dude I am asking you a hypothetical.

Would you draft him if it was known he would not come in 5 years? And 8 years?

Would you draft him if it was known he has attitude issues and refuses to play defense?

It's a pure hypothetical. Trying to determine at which point pure talent can he offset.

It's a silly exercise because NONE of these thing can be known. Why can't you understand this?

As for the defense yes I'd still draft him, that can be worked on. His talent far surpasses any concern I have about your hypothetical lack of defensive awareness, His hypothetical attitude would also have to be extremely damning for me to pass too.

Happy?

 

[Kennerback]

How far does your conviction go?

Pure hypothetical:

1 - Michkov doesn't come over for 5 years. Do you still take him? What about 8 years?

2 - Michkov rumours about his bad attitude, refusal (not inability) to play defense, etc... are true. You still take him? What if he has the exact personality of Galchenyuk?

1- If I’m sure he’s coming over in 5 years. Yes.
If I’m sure he’s coming in 8 years. No

2-Too vague. I don’t think he could play in the NHL if he refused to play defense. Many of his goals consist in turning over the puck. Does he not score those goals anymore?

 

[Retired]

Dude I am asking you a hypothetical.

Would you draft him if it was known he would not come in 5 years? And 8 years?

Would you draft him if it was known he has attitude issues and refuses to play defense?

It's a pure hypothetical. Trying to determine at which point pure talent can he offset.



When you got a baby you are awake at all hours.

This is an awesome convo because I have asked very similar questions poking at opiniated posters... Buuuuuut…. I have to agree with this guy about the question only being valid if it considers causality and space-time. He can’t know today if his emotions would turn him off his pick knowing the outcome of the wait, which does not exist. If he answers I think we all die in a black hole or something from time travelling.

 

[HabbyGuy]

Thanks for the reminder 17 year olds are weird, eat all the fridge and don’t say thanks. He’ll be a different person twice by the time he’s 20.

Here is how hockey deals with attitude anyway so the little tyke will turn it right around lol.

Our team is laden with CHaracter, this young punk's so called attitude would easily be absorbed by this locker room of men. I have no doubt he'd be welcomed with open arms when they can see what he can offer.

 

[Retired]

Our team is laden with CHaracter, this young punk's attitude would easily be absobed by this locker room. I have no doubt he'd be welcomed with open arms when they can see what he can offer.

He’ll have his cap backwards trying to get Dach, Suz and the gang to think he’s cool on day 2.

 

[Ozmodiar]

For real? That’s good news to me although I do not know how big or limiting the adaptation would be and if it gets worse through learnt “habit” I guess…

Cheers for the info!


Cheers; that’s what I figured… when we were kids the Stasny’s came over and rocked it but what a different context the game is.

Panarin’s probably the best example of what you’re looking for.
24 year old, 77 point rookie year.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

How far does your conviction go?

Pure hypothetical:

1 - Michkov doesn't come over for 5 years. Do you still take him? What about 8 years?

2 - Michkov rumours about his bad attitude, refusal (not inability) to play defense, etc... are true. You still take him? What if he has the exact personality of Galchenyuk?

1- You could say the same about any americans player finishing college like Caufield , that could just refuse to sign.

2- Attitude is something you cant work on. You can also learn to play better defensively. Do Oilers Care when McDavid gets 5 points a night and 2 brutal turnovers in the same game ? I dont think so. You are just thinking things that nobody in the planet can reply about his personality . The kid is cocky so what , that means he wants to win and score points. Nothing wrong with that. There is a reason why they are 3 forwards and 2 def on the ice.

If i remember correctly Caufield sure is fun to watch when he score goals , yet he's beyond garbage defensively but his offensive aspect is way positive than his defensive issues.

Don't forget he's still a kid

 

[River Meadow]

Thanks for the reminder 17 year olds are weird, eat all the fridge and don’t say thanks. He’ll be a different person twice by the time he’s 20.

Here is how hockey deals with attitude anyway so the little tyke will turn it right around lol.

Oh, terrific.

He'll fit right in with Slafkovsky on the "Keep your head down" club.

 

[Retired]

1- You could say the same about any americans player finishing college like Caufield , that could just refuse to sign.

2- Attitude is something you cant work on. You can also learn to play better defensively. Do Oilers Care when McDavid gets 5 points a night and 2 brutal turnovers in the same game ? I dont think so. You are just thinking things that nobody in the planet can reply about his personality . The kid is cocky so what , that means he wants to win and score points. Nothing wrong with that. There is a reason why they are 3 forwards and 2 def on the ice.

If i remember correctly Caufield sure is fun to watch when he score goals , yet he's beyond garbage defensively but his offensive aspect is way positive than his defensive issues.

Don't forget he's still a kid

Don’t say that about mon ti-Coco’s defensive game. He’s got no business inside his own blue line anyhow.

Oh, terrific.

He'll fit right in with Slafkovsky on the "Keep your head down" club.

Haha it was pre-season, but I don’t know how you don’t see a guy wider than the net called Emelin there… I think hockey keeps you humble by itself and things sort themselves out. A cocky guy who does not produce will feel it fast imo

 

[HabbyGuy]

1- You could say the same about any americans player finishing college like Caufield , that could just refuse to sign.

2- Attitude is something you cant work on. You can also learn to play better defensively. Do Oilers Care when McDavid gets 5 points a night and 2 brutal turnovers in the same game ? I dont think so. You are just thinking things that nobody in the planet can reply about his personality . The kid is cocky so what , that means he wants to win and score points. Nothing wrong with that. There is a reason why they are 3 forwards and 2 def on the ice.

If i remember correctly Caufield sure is fun to watch when he score goals , yet he's beyond garbage defensively but his offensive aspect is way positive than his defensive issues.

Don't forget he's still a kid

 

[HabbyGuy]

I think @HabbyGuy may have taken the lead.

He’s still duking it out with @waffledave in what is the longest argument that never ended with a bet, nor a resolution. It’s been going on for days, at all hours.

Never seen anything like it.

LOL