Confirmed with Link: Canadiens Will Pick 5th (Hughes Presser in OP) NO POLITICS

[waffledave]

I agree, a lot of people tend to forget that these picks (Slaf, #5 oa) will decide whether or not they get fired a few years from now.

I think most of us would have said just draft Michkov, if it doesn't work out then no one can blame the management...but after the past week and the potential red flags, I don't think Hughes would get as much of a pass if Michkov doesn't work out because people will act like the signs were crystal clear and pretend as though they knew Michkov had to be passed on at all costs. Hindsight is always 20/20

There will be a lot of revisionist history if the Habs do draft Michkov and he turns out to be a total bust. Today it's "Michkov is a can't miss future superstar, I have zero doubt." Tomorrow?

"Oh they should have seen it coming, everyone knew he refuses to play defense. The attitude issues were there from the start. Why do we always insist on drafting small guys who don't have the size to play in today's NHL? His skating issues were known at the draft..."

 

[ReHabs]

There will be a lot of revisionist history if the Habs do draft Michkov and he turns out to be a total bust. Today it's "Michkov is a can't miss future superstar, I have zero doubt." Tomorrow?

"Oh they should have seen it coming, everyone knew he refuses to play defense. The attitude issues were there from the start. Why do we always insist on drafting small guys who don't have the size to play in today's NHL? His skating issues were known at the draft..."

Drafting a bust is far more forgivable than bullheadedly skipping on a star prospect.

You have earnestly said that all Michkov does is Michigan goals so I don’t think you are being genuine here.

 

[waffledave]

Drafting a bust is far more forgivable than bullheadedly skipping on a star prospect.

You have earnestly said that all Michkov does is Michigan goals so I don’t think you are being genuine here.

I totally disagree. The goal is to draft a productive NHL player that improves your team over the long term. Drafting a bust at 5 overall could completely derail this rebuild. It's not forgivable at all.

As for your 2nd comment - sorry if it's hard to grasp the nuance in my posts. Not for everyone.

 

[Kennerback]

I totally disagree. The goal is to draft a productive NHL player that improves your team over the long term. Drafting a bust at 5 overall could completely derail this rebuild. It's not forgivable at all.

As for your 2nd comment - sorry if it's hard to grasp the nuance in my posts. Not for everyone.

There’s no chance he’s a bust. At the very least, he could score a bunch of PP goals in the NHL next season. All the other top-10 after him are more at risk to bust.

 

[sampollock]

I totally disagree. The goal is to draft a productive NHL player that improves your team over the long term. Drafting a bust at 5 overall could completely derail this rebuild. It's not forgivable at all.

As for your 2nd comment - sorry if it's hard to grasp the nuance in my posts. Not for everyone.

agree
if the habs miss this #5 pick will really hurt the long term

 

[ReHabs]

I totally disagree. The goal is to draft a productive NHL player that improves your team over the long term. Drafting a bust at 5 overall could completely derail this rebuild. It's not forgivable at all.

As for your 2nd comment - sorry if it's hard to grasp the nuance in my posts. Not for everyone.

Every player at every draft rank could bust. There is no undue risk between any of the common names at 5OA for you to single out Michkov as a potential case of an obvious bust. His deficiencies are as much (or little) as any other prospect at 5 in the years past.

The exception is the contract situation which is comparable to NCAA commitment but rather more uncertain.

Otherwise to me it seems like some of you have preemptively tilted against the guy as a prospect so you’re magnifying his flaws and the downside risk of drafting him.

Maybe I missed the nuance in your comments, but maybe you haven’t been as subtle or clever as you think either. It’s perfectly fine to not appreciate the prospect, we don’t need to argue.

agree
if the habs miss this #5 pick will really hurt the long term

Drafting a prospect who could very well end up as a checking line player is as bad as drafting a bust with the 5OA.

 

[HabbyGuy]

Even though I don't think the Habs will not draft Michkov (that's who I want though), reading stuff like this regarding Michkov will still make it sting even more and it'll just add to the disappointment when the Habs likely pass on this guy, if he's still there at 5, for a much less talented player it looks like. Sigh...

Pronman: Why NHL Draft prospect Matvei Michkov is worth the risk

This article is pretty much bang on in the assessment of the whole situation. Great read.

 

[ROEN]

Phrases I do not want associated to the Habs pick :

1 - Dark horse
2 - Potentially the steal of the draft
3 - Unlimited upside if developed properly
4- Intangibles

Phrases I do want associated to the Canadiens on draft day :

1 - Can't go wrong
2 - Sure pick
3 - Home run
4 - Safe pick.

I've been Kostitsyn'd my whole life ... I'd rather get Caufield'd from now on.

 

[phillytennis]

An expert close to teams picking in the top 10 told MatchTV that the Capitals are all-in on Michkov and "seriously aimed" at taking him in the #NHLDraft while explaining why he's not speaking to other clubs. More on the #ALLCAPS and top Russian prospect:

 

[sheed36]

Pronman: Why NHL Draft prospect Matvei Michkov is worth the risk

This article is pretty much bang on in the assessment of the whole situation. Great read.

I'm not a sub and only read the screenshot posted from the article in the post I replied to.

I can somewhat understand the risk for the Habs or anyone else near the top of the draft picking him but the reward can also be so f'ing great if/when he comes over and reaches his full potential for the team that does take him.

 

[Team_Spirit]

Sharks will take him (E6)

The fresh prince of Brossard it is.

 

[sampollock]

SJ to me is the wild card pick

 

[Runner77]

agree
if the habs miss this #5 pick will really hurt the long term

They’re not likely to pick this early again in the coming years. However, two high upside prospects (Hutson, Engstrom) were not even drafted in the first round so you have to look at the whole picture.

 

[Koivu11]

An expert close to teams picking in the top 10 told MatchTV that the Capitals are all-in on Michkov and "seriously aimed" at taking him in the #NHLDraft while explaining why he's not speaking to other clubs. More on the #ALLCAPS and top Russian prospect:

You know what I’m tired of? Superstar forwards always ending up on the same handful of teams somehow.

Pittsburgh: Lemieux, Jagr, Crosby, Malkin
Edmonton: Gretzky, McDavid, Draisaitl
Chicago: Kane, Bedard
Washington: Ovechkin, Michkov?

For that reason alone I hope it’s not them.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Phrases I do not want associated to the Habs pick :

1 - Dark horse
2 - Potentially the steal of the draft
3 - Unlimited upside if developed properly
4- Intangibles

Phrases I do want associated to the Canadiens on draft day :

1 - Can't go wrong
2 - Sure pick
3 - Home run
4 - Safe pick.

I've been Kostitsyn'd my whole life ... I'd rather get Caufield'd from now on.

Safe picks are usually mentioned for offensively challenged players that are anything but safe.

If I hear “safe” in relation to our pick, I think I might vomit.

 

[ReHabs]

You know what I’m tired of? Superstar forwards always ending up on the same handful of teams somehow.

Pittsburgh: Lemieux, Jagr, Crosby, Malkin
Edmonton: Gretzky, McDavid, Draisaitl
Chicago: Kane, Bedard
Washington: Ovechkin, Michkov?

For that reason alone I hope it’s not them.

There is absolutely no reason for Washington to end up with Michkov.

 

[BergevinBurner]

There is absolutely no reason for Washington to end up with Michkov.

I hope so. Seeing Chicago get Bedard as soon as Toews+Kane leaves them and Washington get Michkov right as Ovi's career is coming to an end would make me sick.

 

[Rapala]

Is that Pronman ? If I had to guess, NHL teams likely see his opinion on a similar tier as HF posters.

No Fair. I actually see the Habs trying some of the stuff we come up with.

 

[Koivu11]

I hope so. Seeing Chicago get Bedard as soon as Toews+Kane leaves them and Washington get Michkov right as Ovi's career is coming to an end would make me sick.

Some fans of those teams don’t even know what it’s like to not have one of those. Meanwhile we’ve been looking for one since the 70s.

 

[Colezuki]

SJ to me is the wild card pick

I dont think so,

I tihnk it goes

Bedard
Fantilli
Carlsson
Smith

Teams value the Shit out of centers now, getting one early is key to rebuilds

 

[bcv]

Phrases I do not want associated to the Habs pick :

1 - Dark horse
2 - Potentially the steal of the draft
3 - Unlimited upside if developed properly
4- Intangibles

Phrases I do want associated to the Canadiens on draft day :

1 - Can't go wrong
2 - Sure pick
3 - Home run
4 - Safe pick.

I've been Kostitsyn'd my whole life ... I'd rather get Caufield'd from now on.

So you want a can't go wrong, safe and home run sure pick?

I think you put home run in the wrong column because it cannot be associated with the other words you put it with.

 

[LaP]

Phrases I do not want associated to the Habs pick :

1 - Dark horse
2 - Potentially the steal of the draft
3 - Unlimited upside if developed properly
4- Intangibles

Phrases I do want associated to the Canadiens on draft day :

1 - Can't go wrong
2 - Sure pick
3 - Home run
4 - Safe pick.

I've been Kostitsyn'd my whole life ... I'd rather get Caufield'd from now on.

Safe pick is the last thing i want to hear about a player drafted 5th.

 

[Kennerback]

An expert close to teams picking in the top 10 told MatchTV that the Capitals are all-in on Michkov and "seriously aimed" at taking him in the #NHLDraft while explaining why he's not speaking to other clubs. More on the #ALLCAPS and top Russian prospect:

Knowing the history of Soviet and Eastern Bloc players, the fact he’ll be at the draft and has liaised already with Washington and other teams, I strongly suspect he’ll be in the NHL much earlier than in 3 seasons.

 

[montreal]

What if people realized Reinbacher was only outproduced in the NLA by Auston Matthews?

Here's the all time point leaders for U-19 players in the NL's history.

Elite Prospects - NL Stats All-time season

All-time/historical regular season stats and leaders per season for NL, including top goal scorers, most games played, PPG leaders and more.

www.eliteprospects.com

 

[sheed36]

McCagg finally showed up and is on TSN690 right now.