Confirmed with Link: Canadiens Will Pick 5th (Hughes Presser in OP) NO POLITICS

[OnTheRun]

No I didn't I used the absense of confirmation available to (any of us) in this discussion as evidence of absense. Unless ofcourse you have proof?

You declared the "red flag" as unsubstantiated, but at this point it's only unsubstantiated because no one provided you with evidence, not because you used the full extend of the resource available [to a NHL team] to check them out.

So yeah, it was that.

 

[HabbyGuy]

You declared the "red flag" as unsubstantiated, but at this point it's only unsubstantiated because no one provided you with evidence, not because you used the full extend of the resource available [to a NHL team] to check them out.

So yeah, it was that.

Did you not read what I said? You're saying exactly what I said. ugh.

The discussions we are having on these forums are unsubstantiated, not the conversations the management team is having.

That's what I said.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Lets discuss because


Last time someone told me he did something first when I went and did digging I found out he wasn't.

What insight. Who makes a statement like “expect them to pick early on in the first unless it’s traded?” haha, really going out on a limb there.

 

[26Mats]

Found this quote interesting but ndon’t know how accurate it is:

I went through the last 10 drafts and the only forward to be drafted in the top 10 that is 5’10” or less was Marco Rossi (5’9”), a 9th overall pick and Clayton Keller, a 7th overall pick.

The Chances of Matvei Michkov

I wonder if this is the draft to buck that trend.

Bedard alone will buck it.

This could be a record setting year though, for the modern era, with Bedard, Michkov, and Benson all being under 5'10 and going early.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

I know the popular opinion is that Slafkovsky would have been picked 17th in the 2023 NHL entry draft but i firmly believe that Carlsson, Fantilli, Smith, Michkov, Slafkovsky, Cooley and Wright belongs in the same discussion.

Therefore, i think after Bedard its like any other draft.

It’s ok to be wrong.

 

[ZUKI]

There is no player with better hockey sense in this draft sans perhaps Bedard than Michkov, none. Same goes for his goal scoring abilty and offensive accumen.

He has the highest upside of any player in the draft that will perhaps be available to us.

Benson.
Not sure about your affirmation, because it’s seem that in the defensive zone, Mitchkov doesn’t know what to do, where to go . It isn’t a personal opinion but something i have read about that

 

[HabbyGuy]

Benson.
Not sure about your affirmation, because it’s seem that in the defensive zone, Mitchkov doesn’t know what to do, where to go . It isn’t a personal opinion but something i have read about that

I don't recall mentioning anything about defense in my post so not sure why you brought it up. Unless you're telling me you feel that Benson has the higher upside over Michkov. Not that you're not allowed to have that opinion just trying to assertain if that's what you're implying.

Besides, what I said is not just my affirmation, it's pretty much consensus among professional scouts who do this for a living.

And for the love of God, his name is Michkov, not Mitchkov. Why do you continuously spell it that way?

I'm sorry I having a bad day and the smallest of things are setting me off.

 

[zx81]

What insight. Who makes a statement like “expect them to pick early on in the first unless it’s traded?” haha, really going out on a limb there.

I expect a sunny day tomorrow unless it's raining.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

What insight. Who makes a statement like “expect them to pick early on in the first unless it’s traded?” haha, really going out on a limb there.

IB, Dreger, other random insiders.

 

[ZUKI]

Maybe the hawks will take him if he's that good

i already suggested that Hawks are probably open to trade their first OA for our pick #5 because they absolutely want Mitchkov . Their first + a 2nd round in exchange of
our 5 th selection.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

I expect a sunny day tomorrow unless it's raining.

Continued darkness throughout the night turning to partly light in the morning.

 

[ZUKI]

I expect a sunny day tomorrow unless it's raining.

you steal the scoop of MeteoMedia !!!

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Benson.
Not sure about your affirmation, because it’s seem that in the defensive zone, Mitchkov doesn’t know what to do, where to go . It isn’t a personal opinion but something i have read about that

He knows where to go but was choosing not to do so at times.

 

[NORiculous]

Benson.
Not sure about your affirmation, because it’s seem that in the defensive zone, Mitchkov doesn’t know what to do, where to go . It isn’t a personal opinion but something i have read about that

You can see Michkov cheat when you look at his games but that mostly went away in Sochi.

It’s normal, to a point, in lesser leagues to have kids play mostly offense when they have the talent to win games.

Doesn’t worry me one bit.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

What insight. Who makes a statement like “expect them to pick early on in the first unless it’s traded?” haha, really going out on a limb there.

The tweet was intended to be satire, unless I'm wrong

 

[ZUKI]

I don't recall mentioning anything about defense in my post so not sure why you brought it up. Unless you're telling me you feel that Benson has the higher upside over Michkov. Not that you're not allowed to have that opinion just trying to assertain if that's what you're implying.

Besides, what I said is not just my affirmation, it's pretty much consensus among professional scouts who do this for a living.

And for the love of God, his name is Michkov, not Mitchkov. Why do you continuously spell it that way?

I'm sorry I having a bad day and the smallest of things are setting me off.

It’s funny because i took the time to see how his name is written because i was not sure about the “T” . It seems that i copy a bad spelling instead…

My point about the defensive zone is if a player has a good IQ , it should be also visible in the way he plays in his own zone. But i have read that he doesn’t understand what to do when he’s in this part of the ice

 

[HabbyGuy]

It’s funny because i took the time to see how his name is written because i was not sure about the “T” . It seems that i copy a bad spelling instead…

My point about the defensive zone is if a player has a good IQ , it should be also visible in the way he plays in his own zone. But i have read that he doesn’t understand what to do when he’s in this part of the ice

His hockey sense is absolutely skewed towards offense. I'll give you that, but make no mistake his IQ is vast. He's usually two/three steps ahead of everyone from an offensive point of view.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

His hockey sense is absolutely skewed towards offense. I'll give you that, but make no mistake his IQ is vast.

I'd rather have St-Louis teach a two-way game to Michkov rather than having to teach offense to a player with a lesser offensive IQ.

 

[HabbyGuy]

I'd rather have St-Louis teach a two-way game to Michkov rather than having to teach offense to a player with a lesser offensive IQ.

MSL and Michkov equates to gold, Jerry, GOLD!

Hoping you get the reference and I'm not coming off as more of a lunatic than I already am.

 

[Runner77]

I'd rather have St-Louis teach a two-way game to Michkov rather than having to teach offense to a player with a lesser offensive IQ.

Or Nicholas/ St-Louis coaching Smith toward a better defensive game, if he’s the one they end up with.

Bottom line is the same for any player as your post evokes — defence can always be taught, not high octane offensive skills.

 

[Jack Skellington]

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Or Nicholas/ St-Louis coaching Smith toward a better defensive game, if he’s the one they end up with.

Bottom line is the same for any player as your post evokes — defence can always be taught, not high octane offensive skills.

I also don't think THAT DAWG can be taught though so we should just take Benson and get him femur lengthening surgery

 

[Natey]

I don't think anyone can definitively say Benson is outright more talented than Ryan Leonard.. and then you factor in the better frame and skating.. I can definitely see Leonard going ahead of Benson in a BPA on talent.

That's exactly what we do every draft for a ton of players.

So yes, I will say he's definitively better than Leonard.

 

[HabbyGuy]

Or Nicholas/ St-Louis coaching Smith toward a better defensive game, if he’s the one they end up with.

Bottom line is the same for any player as your post evokes — defence can always be taught, not high octane offensive skills.

I think this is what separates Michkov from Smith. Smith is extremely talented, but I believe he relies more on his physical tools, his hands, puck handling and dekeing abilty more so than his abilty to think the game as Michkov does. The difference being Michkov has all the same physical skill abilties but his IQ (hockey sense) is on a much higher level. I also like Michkov's compete level more.

Michkov would give MSL much, much more to work with IMO.

 

[WeThreeKings]

That's exactly what we do every draft for a ton of players.

So yes, I will say he's definitively better than Leonard.

Well let's play the game then.

Size: Leonard
IQ: Draw - both have high hockey IQ, I'd lean Benson.
Hands: Draw - both have good hands, I'd lean Leonard.
Shot: Leonard
Skating: Leonard
Compete: Draw; I'd lean Leonard because his compete can actually impact the game physically
Defense: Draw; I'd lean Leonard because he had to carry the mail so much defensively for his line.
Passing: Benson

All we can say for sure is that Benson is the better passer.. I think we can both agree Leonard has the advantage in shot, skating and size.

They are comparable players but I think Leonard ends up higher than Benson in the draft and most scouts lists.

 

[HabbyGuy]

Well let's play the game then.

Size: Leonard
IQ: Draw - both have high hockey IQ, I'd lean Benson.
Hands: Draw - both have good hands, I'd lean Leonard.
Shot: Leonard
Skating: Leonard
Compete: Draw; I'd lean Leonard because his compete can actually impact the game physically
Defense: Draw; I'd lean Leonard because he had to carry the mail so much defensively for his line.
Passing: Benson

All we can say for sure is that Benson is the better passer.. I think we can both agree Leonard has the advantage in shot, skating and size.

They are comparable players but I think Leonard ends up higher than Benson in the draft and most scouts lists.

Now do it with Michkov. If you may, please. to me...

Size: Leonard
IQ; Michkov
Hands: Michkov
Shot: Michkov
Skating: Leonard
Compete: Benson/Leonard
Defense: Benson/Leonard
Passing Michkov/Benson