Confirmed with Link: Canadiens Will Pick 5th (Hughes Presser in OP) NO POLITICS

[BenchBrawl]

Is it possible, that michkov has the same or similar red flags that yakupov had?

Yak was injured for a good part of his draft year (31g and 69pts in 42 games) but during his 17 year old season with Sarnia, he scored 49 g and 101 points in 65 games. For reference, Nick Suzuki scored 34g and 94pts in 59 games during his 20 year old season.

Undersized? Yes. Questionable attitude? Maybe. But the talent with yakupov was too great to ignore.

Yakupov had no IQ; Michkov has the highest IQ.

Like I said earlier, I guess their names end in "ov".

 

[OnTheRun]

Well it kinda is because we don't know until we know, you know? Because this is our discourse on these forums, not the discussions the managment team is having. The red flags people are using in their arguments against him here on HFB are unsubstantiated.

Nah it's not, since the truth isn't on Reddit, and won't come from the sport journalist either.
Discourse and arguments on this forums or anywhere else that isn't a NHL team war room is just white noise.

 

[HabbyGuy]

Nah it's not, since the truth isn't on Reddit, and won't come from the sport journalist either.
Discourse and arguments on this forums or anywhere else that isn't a NHL team war room is just white noise.

That's exactly what I said.

 

[HabbyGuy]

There is no player with better hockey sense in this draft sans perhaps Bedard than Michkov, none. Same goes for his goal scoring abilty and offensive accumen.

He has the highest upside of any player in the draft that will perhaps be available to us.

 

[Riggins]

You want Michkov, come get him Washington. We want your unprotected 1st next year to move up from 8th to 5th. Same offer applies to Detroit at 9th.

 

[habdynasty]

There is no player with better hockey sense in this draft sans perhaps Bedard than Michkov, none. Same goes for his goal scoring abilty and offensive accumen.

Are you in Russia?

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Is it possible, that michkov has the same or similar red flags that yakupov had?

Yak was injured for a good part of his draft year (31g and 69pts in 42 games) but during his 17 year old season with Sarnia, he scored 49 g and 101 points in 65 games. For reference, Nick Suzuki scored 34g and 94pts in 59 games during his 20 year old season.

Undersized? Yes. Questionable attitude? Maybe. But the talent with yakupov was too great to ignore.

Yak has the same red flags that Michkov has in the same way Wood has the same red flags that Drouin had.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Yakupov had no IQ; Michkov has the highest IQ.

Like I said earlier, I guess their names end in "ov".

The knock on yakupov, pre draft, was hockey iq?

 

[McGees]

Noise this is all I hear reading this. Noise. The rumours about interviews and mood issues.

Our management team will have done their best to get the proper information I'm sure, and until I hear them say that these things are concerrns for them. I will continue to feel he's our best choice.

You can feel it if you like...but I'm quite certain we won't pick him and am surprised so many fans don't realize that yet.

 

[HabbyGuy]

Are you in Russia?

Nope. Don't need to be.

You can feel it if you like...but I'm quite certain we won't pick him and am surprised so many fans don't realize that yet.

It's because it doesn't make sense. Not sure why that surprises you.

 

[habdynasty]

Nope. Don't need to be.

YouTube

 

[HabbyGuy]

YouTube

Can you just get to your point you're aimlessly trying to make?

I'm going by what I've seen 1st hand and video and scouting reports, what I said isn't anything new.
This is well established among scouting circles. And passes the eye test.

 

[habdynasty]

Can you just get to your point you're aimlessly trying to make?

I'm going by what I've seen 1st hand and video and scouting reports, what I said isn't anything new.
This is well established among scouting circles. And passes the eye test.

Maybe the hawks will take him if he's that good

 

[HabbyGuy]

Maybe the hawks will take him if he's that good

LOL (shakes head) Moving on.

 

[habdynasty]

see ya

 

[OnTheRun]

That's exactly what I said.

Well no.
Since you used the absence of evidence [available to you] as evidence of absence.

No one is picking or passing on Michkov on a whim in this draft, it's going to be based on what they know, and their info isn't coming from the Athletic.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

I don’t think Hughes is making decisions necessarily based on the backlash. He showed last year that they will pick the player they like the most and worry about the fallout later.

I do think he realizes there is a tier with 4 players in it, if you concede Bedard is in his own Tier. I believe he has Michkov in that Tier, but is not willing to assume the risks associated. With Bobrov and his ties this is one time where I am willing to concede they have more information than the rest. If they decide not to pick him even if he’s available then they are likely justified in their thinking. I think Hughes recognizes the drop off after 5 and wants to still get a top 5 player (Michkov excluded). The only way to do that is to move into the 4th spot or better. Hence the trading up rumours.

I don’t like the idea of passing up on a ginormous talent for no hockey related reasons, but I think this is one time where they have much more information than me do. I think he may slip outside the top 10. We will see.

 

[Frank Drebin]

So many posters talking out of their asses. Countless hours of YouTube and hockey db trumps what the dudebro scouts think. Just like last year when we made a huge mistake passing on generational talent shane wright

 

[HabbyGuy]

Well no.
Since you used the absence of evidence [available to you] as evidence of absence.

No one is picking or passing on Michkov on a whim in this draft, it's going to be based on what they know, and their info isn't coming from the Athletic.

No I didn't I used the absense of confirmation available to (any of us) in this discussion as evidence of absense. Unless ofcourse you have proof?

 

[Frank Drebin]

For the record, I think the "Russian factor" has very little weight. Teams passing on michkov will do so because they don't like the player, not because of his country or last name

 

[Vachon23]

I don't think anyone can definitively say Benson is outright more talented than Ryan Leonard.. and then you factor in the better frame and skating.. I can definitely see Leonard going ahead of Benson in a BPA on talent.

BPA is so much variable… I can have a player on my list that is rank 3rd on my list and 12th in yours. Doesn’t mean I didn’t take BPA even if he’s 12th on your list

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Hello everyone

Here is my thinking

These 4 players will go 1-4

Seems michkov is positioning himself to not go to the number 2-4 spot from what I am reading


Bedard
Fantilli
Smith (smith will go to one of the 2 American teams )
Carlson


If Montreal gets an interview with michkov then we pick him with our 5th

If we do not get an interview then we will pick Zach benson (unless for some miracle carlson and smith still available at 5)

Forget Leonard , he had one good tournament on a line with smith

Benson has been more consistent. And is the better player

My 2 cents

Benson os the better player.

 

[HabbyGuy]

Yakupov had no IQ; Michkov has the highest IQ.

Like I said earlier, I guess their names end in "ov".

They're not even remotely in the same stratosphere as talents.

 

[Rapala]

I don't think anyone can definitively say Benson is outright more talented than Ryan Leonard.. and then you factor in the better frame and skating.. I can definitely see Leonard going ahead of Benson in a BPA on talent.

Hughes went a lot further in his response in how they determine what comprises the most talented. It's every aspect of what the said player brings to the table. Many people have glossed that over because their favorite(s) don't check all the boxes.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Teams need to thoroughly review Leonard’s stick abilities. Pass making, receiving and handling the puck. Draft him if you feel OK with what you see.

I like him at 8-10. There are better players available at 5. Picking him would be quite the letdown imo.