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MarkovsKnee said:
San Jose just seems all in on Russian players. They traded for 2 from New Jersey in the Meier trade, and signed a bunch more. Michkov fits well within their rebuild timeline. He'll also be a superstar who will bring fans in, put them on a national stage & make them tons of money. Smith is a really good player, but Michkov is better.

Michkov knows he'll make more money in the US then he ever could in Russia.

The "can't be signed" threat is ridiculous. He can be signed to an ELC right after being drafted. The first 2 years slide as a U20 then he gets loaned to KHL for his 3rd year there, and comes over after that season with 2 years left on his ELC.

On top of that there's been more than a dozen Russian players signed this off-season.

Toronto just signed their 6th round pick from 2021 goaltender Vyacheslav Peksa, without controversy.

It's just Montreal fans who feel the need to agonize over this shit. This isn't apparent in other Fan groups.
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I still hear people on youtube that aren't Habs fans thinking he'll drop...

But I think the only way to get him is to trade up with Columbus, who don't want him.
 
Runner77 said:
Players from the Siviet era were denied exit visas.

There was notably Tretiak:

Tretiak was selected by the Montreal Canadiens in the National Hockey League's (NHL's) 1983 entry draft. The Soviet Ice Hockey Federation, however, refused to grant his release, and Tretiak never played in the NHL
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So not in the recent past, so why are we worried?

JohnTheBaptist said:
We're not deep at the RD position. If Reinbacher is truly that #1 RD it wouldn't be a bad thing. I'm not saying that's what they will do, I'm just talking possibilities about that poster's idea. I personally want Michkov but I doubt he will be available. With Suzuki and Dach at center and with Beck coming up, why do we need Smith?
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BPA. Next year is the year for defensemen. This is the year for offense.
 
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Omar said:
So not in the recent past, so why are we worried?
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Several pundits and sources have come out saying that Michkov is a DND for Hughes (I haven’t kept tabs but I’ve seen @WeThreeKings name them).

Regardless, I think the vast majority of posters on our forum are undeterred — if Michkov falls to us, we must pick him.

If Michkov doesn’t fall to us, then is it Smith or Leonard or someone else? I thought we had consensus on there being a tier drop after the top 5 (which included Smith). Never a dull moment whenever the Habs are involved.
 
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The more I watch Michkov the more I like him. I thought he was just another typical all flash russian that is all about offense but the guy is just a tank for his age. Very strong and competitive. The best part about him is that he seems to adjust very well to what the opposition give him which is very rare for a 18 years old player. He has that 'it' factor that is impossible to teach.

The only worry I have with him is that his skating is average and he should improve it a bit.

I have little doubt that whichever team draft him will land a superstar forward down the road unless he has drug abuse or some other significant outside factors.
 
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sheed36 said:
In that case I'd be talking to teams drafting between 6th and 9th (I wouldn't trade back any further than 9th) to see if they want to move up to 5th for Michkov.

The Habs would drop back 1-4 spots, get an additional potential decent pick or a good prospect included instead of the pick and still get a very good player in one of Leonard, Dvorsky, Benson, Reinbacher, or anyone else they may like on the board.

If however they can't make a trade to fall back and they do intend to pass on Michkov (I really hope not though) I'd just take Leonard @ 5. He looks to have a really nice skillset with a high motor and plays a hard nosed in your face game which teams need at playoff time.
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If they pass on Michkov they better be right otherwise that will be up there with any of the huge gaffs committed by Houle.
 
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Michoulicious said:
Dach is not 100% surefire C. Needs to win some faceoffs at somepoint.

Not sure Beck will be more than a bottom 6er.

Suzuki is top 6 C that probably will top out around PPG, which is awesome.

You never have too many high end C prospects.

Like I said earlier, many people here over estimate greatly the gap in the Cs after Bedard in the top 5. To me, there is not that a great difference between them, and while I have Fantilli slightly ahead because of what he has done in college, Smith/Carlsson is really close for me.

I know it's not a popular opinion, but I personally prefer Smith to Carlsson because I'm a sucker for great offensive talent. I think Smith is the most "talented" offensive player in this draft after Michkov/Bedard. Carlsson/Fantilli are more sure things because of their physical tools/compete/etc., but I see some Zegras in Smith, and Zegras is the player I love the most to watch in the NHL after McDavid.

Looks like I'm not alone because many NHL scouts have Smith over Carlsson according to Bob McKenzie.

For me:

Bedard
Michkov

--- big gap ---

Fantilli
Smith
Carlsson

--- big gap ---

ASP
Leonard
Dvorsky
Benson
etc in basically the same tier
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My tier

Bedard
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Michkov
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Carlsson
Fantilli
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Smith
Leonard
Benson
Wood
-gap-
Reinbacher
Dvorsky
Barlow
Moore
 
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Beer and Chips said:
Lol, one statement doesn't cancel the other, the point is all three are supposed good players.
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Yes they are.

Not sure what was going on when I was trying to reply, but it kept glitching when I was trying to type and then not allowed to edit. Was weird.
 


Yep. I could see the habs liking this guy.

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Koivu11 said:
I’m still waiting for one of these media pundits to explain to me what makes Michkov a DND for us but not other teams.

Like what is this based on?
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If somebody has them all handy, we could start by listing them all in one post.

One of them was Stéphane Leroux who is supposedly close to the organization. Another was Telepin (sp?) who used to be a scout for the Habs out of Russia but who was let go last year I believe. There are a few more I’ve seen in this thread but can’t recall them all.
 
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SuzukiSZN said:
Some people think it’s dumb but it’s very important for the habs to choose someone they think could be able to accept the pressure in this market and not be phased by it.
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Yes. Guys who win also thrive under pressure. The guy that wants to be on the ice with the game on the line.
 
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Omar said:
BPA. Next year is the year for defensemen. This is the year for offense
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Next year we might make the playoffs. I wouldn't be thinking about next year's draft. Reinbacher might be BPA at #5, we'll see what management thinks. We only need a true #1 RD we have all the pieces on defense. Mailloux might or might not be that guy.
 
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