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[Sterling Archer]

Someone knows if Mitchkov is able to buy out his contract in Russia ? i think it is possible in certain leagues

Another part of the equation is that Mitchkov yet wins more money in Russia that he would here because of the entry level contract. If he stays In Russia, and signs another contract ( i think for 2 seasons) , then he would be enough old to escape the entry level contract.

I am not sure at 100 % about this, but i am sure that it could be confirm . Someone here knows ?

He can. I believe he’d have to pay $600,000 personally to buy it out.

 

[BenchBrawl]

Jagr told every team he wouldn’t be coming, except to the Penguins.

They should have picked him anyway.

 

[BenchBrawl]

Don’t forget they have TONS of information that we don’t avec access. Especially Bobrov in Michkov case..

If they pass on him (and CBJ/SJ too), there will be a reason why..

Sure, they have tons of info we don't have access to. But how to differentiate between legit reasons and corporate risk-aversion?

 

[Kennerback]

Yakupov was quite often referred to as as a mini-Ovechkin or Ovechkin-lite. And since they both played in Russia after being drafted due to an NHL lockout we can see why "pulverizing" Ovechkin's records in Russia are not what it may seem.
Ovehckin's D+1 season in Russia 27 points in 37 games for a ppg of 0.73
Yakupov's D+1 season in Russia 18 points in 22 games for a ppg of 0.82


Look, Michkov is unlikely to completly bust like Yakupov did but that doesn't mean he can't end up dissapointment on the ice either. If Michkov becomes a 30-40 goal, 70-80 point scorer who gets a lot of production from the PP and has no real defensive game to talk about. That's far from him being a bust, but it's also what peak Mike Hoffman gave teams and if someone were to compare Michkov to Hoffman I'm pretty sure it would be taken as criticism.

Look. I’m going out on a limb here. I’m ready to stand by my words. I think whoever drafts Michkov will get a better player than Mike Hoffman. Flame away!

 

[McPhees Moustache]

Yakupov was quite often referred to as as a mini-Ovechkin or Ovechkin-lite. And since they both played in Russia after being drafted due to an NHL lockout we can see why "pulverizing" Ovechkin's records in Russia are not what it may seem.
Ovehckin's D+1 season in Russia 27 points in 37 games for a ppg of 0.73
Yakupov's D+1 season in Russia 18 points in 22 games for a ppg of 0.82


Look, Michkov is unlikely to completly bust like Yakupov did but that doesn't mean he can't end up dissapointment on the ice either. If Michkov becomes a 30-40 goal, 70-80 point scorer who gets a lot of production from the PP and has no real defensive game to talk about. That's far from him being a bust, but it's also what peak Mike Hoffman gave teams and if someone were to compare Michkov to Hoffman I'm pretty sure it would be taken as criticism.

Is this really Michkov specific? Couldn't this argument be made regarding any prospects or is there something specific about Michkov that leads you to believe he has higher bust potential than others expected to be drafted in the same vicinity?

 

[Mrb1p]

Is this really Michkov specific? Couldn't this argument be made regarding any prospects or is there something specific about Michkov that leads you to believe he has higher bust potential than others expected to be drafted in the same vicinity?

Michkov has the 2nd lowest bust potential in all of the draft.

 

[BenchBrawl]

Michkov has the 2nd lowest bust potential in all of the draft.

1st, actually.

He's already proven he could play against adult pros.

Bedard didn't (even though it's a formality).

 

[Mrb1p]

1st, actually.

He's already proven he could play against adult pros.

Bedard didn't (even though it's a formality).

Ill give Beds the benefit over Michkovs contract.

 

[BenchBrawl]

Ill give Beds the benefit over Michkovs contract.

Sure, but that's not really "busting" if he doesn't come over.

I say we pick Michkov and if he ends up the ONLY top prospect since the fall of the Soviet Union not to come over, let it be it.

Montreal HAS to take Michkov if he's available.

I'm in my late-30s and if they pass on him, I think that'll be the final nail in the coffin of my relationship with hockey in general. I suffered enough.

If we pick Michkov and he never comes, I'll be sad, but I'll respect the franchise's decision to risk it. It's the right call to bring us back to glory.

You will never read me criticize management & ownership over it. Never.

I'll defend them to my death.

 

[Mrb1p]

Sure, but that's not really "busting" if he doesn't come over.

I say we pick Michkov and if he ends up the ONLY top prospect since the fall of the Soviet Union not to come over, let it be it.

Montreal HAS to take Michkov if he's available.

I'm in my late-30s and if they pass on him, I think that'll be the final nail in the coffin of my relationship with hockey in general. I suffered enough.

If we pick Michkov and he never comes, I'll be sad, but I'll respect the franchise's decision to risk it. It's the right call to bring us back to glory.

You will never read me criticize management & ownership over it. Never.

I'll defend them to my death.

I have him firmly as a 2nd overall, dont worry.

 

[sheed36]

If Michkov is still on the board @ 5 and the Habs do pass on him it will be such a shame especially after Hughes said they want to take the most talented and BPA available when they pick and Michkov seems to be that by far.

I read a Montreal Gazette piece yesterday from Friday and even Jack Todd wants the Habs to take the risk and take Michkov if he's there.

Here is what he said at the end of his article and I can't believe I'm saying this but I agree with him.

Obviously, I don’t have a vote in this. Nor do the fans, though at least half seem to believe that Hughes should throw it open to a vote. Like everyone else, all I have is an opinion. If you’re going to climb to the top of the NHL, you have to take risks.

If Matvei Michkov is available when the Canadiens are on the clock in Nashville June 28, they should take a very deep breath — and draft him.

Even though Habs management likely won't give a shit what the media or fans have to say, but I think if the Habs do end up passing on Michkov @ 5 (if he's available) there will likely be some blow back from fans and probably from some in the media as well but like I said they likely couldn't give a crap what we say or think.

 

[SwiftyHab]

Someone knows if Mitchkov is able to buy out his contract in Russia ? i think it is possible in certain leagues

Another part of the equation is that Mitchkov yet wins more money in Russia that he would here because of the entry level contract. If he stays In Russia, and signs another contract ( i think for 2 seasons) , then he would be enough old to escape the entry level contract.

I am not sure at 100 % about this, but i am sure that it could be confirm . Someone here knows ?

Ya but he has to be able to afford to buy out the contract himself and not whoever drafts him Which is it’s unlikely

 

[Whitesnake]

Very generous of you. I won't be as charitable.

I think it would be gutless not to take him.

Even in the worst case scenario, pick him and then hope the geopolitical situation gets more favorable for him to come in the next 5 years.

I'd pick him too. Not even close. But me being generous is a 3-year period. Before we learn that he,s coming in the NHL. Then, I'll add this decision to the decision to not draft Jiri Kulich. Amongst a few other decisions....

 

[Gillings]

I see both their names finish with "ov"

And we also have Nick BobrOV

Coincidence?


Edit: Damn, didn't mean to steal your thunder, @BenchBrawl

OV?? AS IN OVECHKIN?? Phenom confirmed!

 

[McGees]

I was saying that because of Bobrov connections in SKA, he’s gonna have access on more information on Michkov

Yes that inside Russian info helps him nail his evaluations like with Kravtsov

 

[Deleted member 257557]

Yes, and for all we know he could be a total jerk and not a team player. This happens alot which is why the interviews, meeting with families etc are so important. All we see is the skill on the ice.
Public draft ranking are mostly based on what they see on tape and generally NHL teams prefer players more balanced (2-way) or more tough. i.e. I would rather have a Tkachuk than a Marner.

Michkov may be the absolute best for this team but there is more info we don't see.


Maybe he can't do chin-ups

Or he can’t see out his left eye and is really 23.

Leonard will be a hof with the habs anyway and somehow be drafted ALONG with Smith book it I got a feeling trust me bro.

 

[BenchBrawl]

I'd pick him too. Not even close. But me being generous is a 3-year period. Before we learn that he,s coming in the NHL. Then, I'll add this decision to the decision to not draft Jiri Kulich. Amongst a few other decisions....

Michkov might come before the 3 years too. Who knows?

As for Jiri Kulich, yeah it looks bad, but I won't get all worked up about lower picks mistakes. Yeah, they f***ed up on that one, but we got Owen Beck just after. I don't think it's as bad as say Fischer over Giroux, who was in our backyard, and Fischer being a rando.

 

[The Real Timo]

He can. I believe he’d have to pay $600,000 personally to buy it out.

So all he needs is a 600K signing bonus then, right?

Habs should go for Mitchkov if he is indeed what the hype indicates. Let's face it... all Habs going to do in the next 3-4 years is draft more Harris', Slafs, Mesars, etc... nothing to be too excited about. I'd wait 3 more years while building a solid core, for presumably generational talent who will be ready to step in once he is done with CKA.

Btw, go CKA!!! Great team.

 

[26Mats]

It could be simply because the player available at their respective draft position is more appealing than the risk/reward combination with Michkov.

Like Chicago is a no brainer.

Anaheim likely a no brainer as well.

Columbus would likely be passing on a very good player in Leo Carlsson to take Michkov. Is the difference in skill worth that much risk?

It gets a lot murkier when it gets to San Jose and us.

John Davidson, Columbus's president, said they're taking a center.

So San Jose is likely the first team that we don't know if they'll pass on Michkov or not. Though it's for sure possible Anaheim takes him.

 

[SwiftyHab]

So all he needs is a 600K signing bonus then, right?

 

[26Mats]

Wouldn't be surprised if Benson drops.

Would have been nice to use Florida's 14th overall pick to move up and get him as our 2nd 1st round pick. Too bad the Penguins couldn't beat the worst team in the league at the very end of the year when their season depended on it, smh.

 

[Vachon23]

So all he needs is a 600K signing bonus then, right?

Habs should go for Mitchkov if he is indeed what the hype indicates. Let's face it... all Habs going to do in the next 3-4 years is draft more Harris', Slafs, Mesars, etc... nothing to be too excited about. I'd wait 3 more years while building a solid core, for presumably generational talent who will be ready to step in once he is done with CKA.

Btw, go CKA!!! Great team.

If the problem was only to wait 3 yrs and we would be sure he would be here in 2026 he would be draft in the top 4

 

[The Real Timo]

If the problem was only to wait 3 yrs and we would be sure he would be here in 2026 he would be draft in the top 4

That's where Hughes needs to do some behind the scenes schmoozing...

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

John Davidson, Columbus's president said they're taking a center.

So San Jose is likely the first team that we don't know if they'll pass on Michkov or not. Though it's for sure possible Anaheim takes him.

Timmins can do us a biggy and draft Dvorsky. He's a center!

 

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