Confirmed with Link: Canadiens Will Pick 5th (Hughes Presser in OP) NO POLITICS

[Vachon23]

Timmins can do us a biggy and draft Dvorsky. He's a center!

The worst, it’s that the chances are bigger that Dvorsky stay a Center then Will Smith

 

[BenchBrawl]

Did you guys knew that out of all the teams in the NHL (excluding Seattle), we are the franchise with the least amount of players with a PPG season since 2000?

We have Alex Kovalev in 2008, that's it.

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Every other team has at least two.

Plus, we haven't had a true superstar forward since Guy Lafleur. That's 43 years ago that he had his last great 100+ pts season. Sure, we got Naslund, Turgeon, Damphousse, Richer, etc. But no true consistent star at forward for over 4 decades!

That's why MICHKOV is absolutely crucial. This franchise has been desertic at forward. The thirst for it is a matter of life or death. We need this more than anything, and Michkov is our last chance to get one for the next few years.

 

[Sorinth]

Is this really Michkov specific? Couldn't this argument be made regarding any prospects or is there something specific about Michkov that leads you to believe he has higher bust potential than others expected to be drafted in the same vicinity?

The thing about Michkov is that the whole Russian/Contract stuff takes up so much oxygen that many people come away thinking that it's the one and only problem when it's really not. So it's not about Michkov having a higher bust potential per se, Carlsson and Smith also have similar chance of ending up as low tier 1st liners/high end 2nd liners but that idea is accepted in the case of Carlsson/Smith but not in Michkov's and there's really no reason for it.

 

[NORiculous]

Did you guys knew that out of all the teams in the NHL (excluding Seattle), we are the franchise with the least amount of players with a PPG season since 2000?

We have Alex Kovalev in 2008, that's it.

NHL Stats

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www.nhl.com

Every other team has at least two.

Plus, we haven't had a true superstar forward since Guy Lafleur. That's 43 years ago that he had his last great 100+ pts season. Sure, we got Naslund, Turgeon, Damphousse, Richer, etc. But no true consistent star at forward for over 4 decades!

That's why MICHKOV is absolutely crucial. This franchise has been desertic at forward. The thirst for it is a matter of life or death. We need this more than anything, and Michkov is our last chance to get one for the next few years.

There should be some kind of petition out there. I find it insane that the Habs need a guy with elite talent so much and circumstances make him fall on their lap. But noooo… Hughes is scared.

Come on.

 

[26Mats]

Did you guys knew that out of all the teams in the NHL (excluding Seattle), we are the franchise with the least amount of players with a PPG season since 2000?

We have Alex Kovalev in 2008, that's it.

NHL Stats

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Every other team has at least two.

Plus, we haven't had a true superstar forward since Guy Lafleur. That's 43 years ago that he had his last great 100+ pts season. Sure, we got Naslund, Turgeon, Damphousse, Richer, etc. But no true consistent star at forward for over 4 decades!

That's why MICHKOV is absolutely crucial. This franchise has been desertic at forward. The thirst for it is a matter of life or death. We need this more than anything, and Michkov is our last chance to get one for the next few years.

I agree 100% with this post.

I would just emphasize the part where you said forward. Because I would say Price, Roy, Chelios, Markov, and Subban were superstars.

Hopefully Caufield and Suzuki become ones also

 

[BenchBrawl]

I agree 100% with this post.

I would just emphasize the part where you said forward. Because I would say Price, Roy, Chelios, Markov, and Subban were superstars.

Hopefully Caufield and Suzuki become ones also

Sure, my post was about forwards. Face it, while I enjoy watching a great goalie and a great defender, it's rarely as exciting as watching a Guy Lafleur. That's what has been missing in Montreal since the 1970s.

 

[dcyhabs]

Ya but he has to be able to afford to buy out the contract himself and not whoever drafts him Which is it’s unlikely

You’d think it would be a fairly easy loan to take out but he’d be really stuck if he busted.

 

[jrom]

Anything is possible. However, saying’s he’s going to bust as a hockey player is like saying Bedard or McDavid are going to bust as a hockey player. Those two had record breaking seasons in Canada. Whereas Michkov pulverized all records in Russia that were set by the likes of Ovechkin.

Yakupov was a consensus #1 in an arguably sub-par draft year. Whereas several very serious hockey people say Michkov would go #1 in the past few drafts except the Bedard and McDavid years. Michkov is seen as the Next One in Russia.

Brian Burke mentioned that the interview with Yakupov went horribly wrong and that they never considered drafting him (bad attitude, etc).

Not saying it’s the case with Michkov but for an org saying it wants to focus on player Dev no combine interview + no say in the player Dev for 3 years post-draft is an unpleasant unknown. Hopefully with their contacts they are able to dig around this even if he doesn’t go to the combine.

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[BLONG7]

Sure, my post was about forwards. Face it, while I enjoy watching a great goalie and a great defender, it's rarely as exciting as watching a Guy Lafleur. That's what has been missing in Montreal since the 1970s.

How true.............the last time we had a few good forwards, was 93 and Muller, Damphousse, and Bellows come to mind................crazy thing, 93 was our last Cup.

The core we are looking to add on, for forwards, Suzuki, Dach, Caufield, Slaf, and a kid from this year's draft and maybe PLD............we are moving in the right direction for sure...

Is Michkov a true game breaker? Should we be concerned about his size?

 

[SwiftyHab]

Carllson looks really good. Pretty sure he goes third to Columbus over Smith.

 

[dcyhabs]

Did you guys knew that out of all the teams in the NHL (excluding Seattle), we are the franchise with the least amount of players with a PPG season since 2000?

We have Alex Kovalev in 2008, that's it.

NHL Stats

The official source for NHL Stats including skaters, goalies, teams stats and more.

www.nhl.com

Every other team has at least two.

Plus, we haven't had a true superstar forward since Guy Lafleur. That's 43 years ago that he had his last great 100+ pts season. Sure, we got Naslund, Turgeon, Damphousse, Richer, etc. But no true consistent star at forward for over 4 decades!

That's why MICHKOV is absolutely crucial. This franchise has been desertic at forward. The thirst for it is a matter of life or death. We need this more than anything, and Michkov is our last chance to get one for the next few years.

Damphousse was a true long term star. Richer was inconsistent, Turgeon wasn’t here long and whined about ice time instead of playing for it. Roy, Price, Subban, Chelios, Markov… There have been serious players but not as much focus on offence. Trading for Recchi and Savard may have soured management on going for pure offence. Recchi put up points but his scoring barely compensated for his weak defence. The team has been looking for Bergeron but they missed him on draft day. It’s a tough call, most forwards who play defensively in junior don’t make the next step (Beck?), and it’s not always clear what offensive stars will be able to play D in the NHL.

Fifth pick should be good for at least some ppg seasons. Hard to make up for almost three consecutive decades of terrible decisions.

 

[ManixLiquid]

If Mitchov is willing to break his contract with the KHL and come over to Morth America right away, do you want Montreal to draft him or Will Smith?

 

[BenchBrawl]

Damphousse was a true long term star. Richer was inconsistent, Turgeon wasn’t here long and whined about ice time instead of playing for it. Roy, Price, Subban, Chelios, Markov… There have been serious players but not as much focus on offence. Trading for Recchi and Savard may have soured management on going for pure offence. Recchi put up points but his scoring barely compensated for his weak defence. The team has been looking for Bergeron but they missed him on draft day. It’s a tough call, most forwards who play defensively in junior don’t make the next step (Beck?), and it’s not always clear what offensive stars will be able to play D in the NHL.

Fifth pick should be good for at least some ppg seasons. Hard to make up for almost three consecutive decades of terrible decisions.

Damphousse was not a superstar. He never finished Top 10 in scoring in his long career.


He was a strong player I'd take on my team any day, but not a superstar.

Enough with the half doses. We need a true, real f***ing superstar winning Art Ross trophies. That's what we need.

 

[dcyhabs]

Damphousse was not a superstar. He never finished Top 10 in scoring in his long career.


He was a strong player I'd take on my team any day, but not a superstar.

Enough with the half doses. We need a true, real f***ing superstar winning Art Ross trophies. That's what we need.

Damphousse wasn’t a top scorer but he played shutdown defense against top lines while scoring well. Close to Bergeron. I’ll take him over a number of guys who were top ten in scoring those years.

Though I say that without looking up the stats so I could be way off.

Edit - Talking through my hat. The top 10 in ‘93 were really good, though I’d take him over Recchi at least, Damphousse was 20th that year and I’d probably take him about tenth, way above guys like Turgeon who outscored him.

 

[BenchBrawl]

Damphousse wasn’t a top scorer but he played shutdown defense against top lines while scoring well. Close to Bergeron. I’ll take him over a number of guys who were top ten in scoring those years.

Though I say that without looking up the stats so I could be way off.

No one is trying to put down Damphousse here, but a superstar he was not.

Neither was Bergeron, for that matter.

Sure, I'll take both before many Top 10 scorers.

The point is not to get a Top 10 scorer, but a perennial Art Ross contender.

Michkov is our best shot at that since Guy Lafleur.

 

[Nedved]

No one is trying to put down Damphousse here, but a superstar he was not.

Neither was Bergeron, for that matter.

Sure, I'll take both before many Top 10 scorers.

The point is not to get a Top 10 scorer, but a perennial Art Ross contender.

Michkov is our best shot at that since Guy Lafleur.

I can't see San Jose passing on him. Looks like he will go just before us. A top 4 draft and then the next tier of guys. Kind of sucks.

 

[habdynasty]

No one is trying to put down Damphousse here, but a superstar he was not.

Neither was Bergeron, for that matter.

Sure, I'll take both before many Top 10 scorers.

The point is not to get a Top 10 scorer, but a perennial Art Ross contender.

Michkov is our best shot at that since Guy Lafleur.

If he’s that good he’s goin second. Get the crying towel ready.

 

[BenchBrawl]

I can't see San Jose passing on him. Looks like he will go just before us. A top 4 draft and then the next tier of guys. Kind of sucks.

If this happens and we end up with another 60 pts player at 5th, would make this season even more catastrophic that it has been.

If he’s that good he’s goin second. Get the crying towel ready.

He's probably that good. But who knows if Anaheim needs him. They have a ton of great young players already. They might be tempted to go with a safer pick.

San Jose is risky.

 

[dcyhabs]

No one is trying to put down Damphousse here, but a superstar he was not.

Neither was Bergeron, for that matter.

Sure, I'll take both before many Top 10 scorers.

The point is not to get a Top 10 scorer, but a perennial Art Ross contender.

Michkov is our best shot at that since Guy Lafleur.

I think that was part of the habs philosophy, though, take the guy who wins games, but yes, the top 10 he was competing with, Gretzky, Oates, Fedorov and so on would generate more wins, too. And the habs didn’t apply any philosophy or really much of anything from ‘94-‘20 or so.

I’m not convinced the fifth pick will have a superstar available, or at least not one we can predict, but definitely best to go for it, Michkov, Smith, whoever rises.

With current management I guess we should check birthdays and beard growing ability. They seem to like guys who have some maturing to do, though guys like Kidney haven’t bulked out yet. Can’t think of a habs prospect who really has yet, though KK has time yet in Carolina.

 

[BenchBrawl]

I think that was part of the habs philosophy, though, take the guy who wins games, but yes, the top 10 he was competing with, Gretzky, Oates, Fedorov and so on would generate more wins, too. And the habs didn’t apply any philosophy or really much of anything from ‘94-‘20 or so.

I’m not convinced the fifth pick will have a superstar available, or at least not one we can predict, but definitely best to go for it, Michkov, Smith, whoever rises.

With current management I guess we should check birthdays and beard growing ability. They seem to like guys who have some maturing to do, though guys like Kidney haven’t bulked out yet. Can’t think of a habs prospect who really has yet, though KK has time yet in Carolina.

Yeah, we need Jacques Lemaire's, but last time we had a dynasty, we also had a Guy Lafleur to spice things up up front. And before that Jean Béliveau, Maurice Richard, Howie Morenz.

No one is denying we need great two-way centers, solid blueline and a good goalie. But they forgot you also need star forwards.

 

[MrNasty]

Did you guys knew that out of all the teams in the NHL (excluding Seattle), we are the franchise with the least amount of players with a PPG season since 2000?

We have Alex Kovalev in 2008, that's it.

NHL Stats

The official source for NHL Stats including skaters, goalies, teams stats and more.

www.nhl.com

Every other team has at least two.

Plus, we haven't had a true superstar forward since Guy Lafleur. That's 43 years ago that he had his last great 100+ pts season. Sure, we got Naslund, Turgeon, Damphousse, Richer, etc. But no true consistent star at forward for over 4 decades!

That's why MICHKOV is absolutely crucial. This franchise has been desertic at forward. The thirst for it is a matter of life or death. We need this more than anything, and Michkov is our last chance to get one for the next few years.

It means diddly squat.
There were 37 PPG players that played over 60 games this season and only a handful are still in the playoffs. They are all on either Edmonton (3), Florida (2) and 1 one Dallas - Roberston who has been horrible.
Carolina, Vegas, and Seattle have zero. It is very possible only 2 PPG players will be left in the playoffs after tomorrow.

Ironically Montreal has won more playoff series since 2000 than the majority of teams.

 

[Nedved]

If this happens and we end up with another 60 pts player at 5th, would make this season even more catastrophic that it has been.



He's probably that good. But who knows if Anaheim needs him. They have a ton of great young players already. They might be tempted to go with a safer pick.

San Jose is risky.

I mean, a 60 pts player is probably more likely, but there will definitely be a couple guys that go between 5-15 that will end up PPG or close.

Walking away with Michkov would be the gold standard in my eyes.

 

[BenchBrawl]

It means diddly squat.
There were 37 PPG players that played over 60 games this season and only a handful are still in the playoffs. They are all on either Edmonton (3), Florida (2) and 1 one Dallas - Roberston who has been horrible.
Carolina, Vegas, and Seattle have zero. It is very possible only 2 PPG players will be left in the playoffs after tomorrow.

Ironically Montreal has won more playoff series since 2000 than the majority of teams.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Keep watching boring games with no star on the team. f*** this mentality.

Kovalev in 2008 was the most exciting player in Montreal since Guy Lafleur. That year was magical. We need more of that.

Winning playoff series is meaningless if the team ain't memorable and isn't a perennial contender.

 

[26Mats]

Sure, my post was about forwards. Face it, while I enjoy watching a great goalie and a great defender, it's rarely as exciting as watching a Guy Lafleur. That's what has been missing in Montreal since the 1970s.

Yes, I'm really praying for Michkov. And maybe I'm low key hoping for Benson if Mishkov and Carlesson don't come to us, because he seems to have an excitment factor.

But many think Will Smith could be a Marner type star, which would really be exciting. I'd certainly be happy if Carlesson did become our Johan Franzen, Benson a prime Gallagher with better playmaking abilities, Leonard a Bo Horvat with grit, Dvorsky a Kopitar, so we'll see...

 

[Kaladin]

Canadiens Could Look To Trade Up At 2023 NHL Draft

The Montreal Canadiens will have a few options leading up to the 2023 NHL Draft, and it appears that trading up could be high on their wishlist. On a recent segment for TSN 690, NHL Insider Darren Dreger spoke about the Montreal Canadiens’ situation with the 5th overall pick and what their...

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My opinion:

Getting Carlsson will require a 3-way trade.

To Sharks: Mtl's 5th + FL 1st + Slaf + 2nd round, assurance from Columbus they wont Draft Michkov
To Columbus: Sharks's Slaf + 2nd round acquired from mtl
To Mtl: Sharks's 4th + Columbus assurance they wont draft Carlsson

Is Carlsson the second coming Gretzky?

Why are we giving up Michkov (likely and the second best player in this draft on talent) + 1st overall pick from last year + another 2023 first round pick + a high 2023 second round pick??