Post-Game Talk: Canadiens 5 Bruins 1

[Kimota]

Habs fan here. The team the Habs faced last night was not the team they faced in the playoffs last year. And I'm not even talking about the absence of Boychuck, Chara and DK. In the playoffs, the Bruins were the best team of the two, they were dominating and after much rope-a-dope and Price, the Habs lucked out of winning the series. Last night on the Habs' board we were all shocked of the softness of the Bruins and lack of intimidation. Habs had it easy, it was more the Bruins playing bad than the Habs playing well. It was strange to witness. I love Habs-Bruins games and like when my team win but this wasn't the wars that we're used to. I want to beat the Bruins when they are hard to beat not like this when they are an easy prey. There's something missing in the heart of the Bruins. I didn't like that after Campbell fought Wiese for instance he talked to Wiese not saying "hey my sob that was a cheap shot, i'll get you next time!" but more like "come on man, that hit was not fair!". You think the Campbell of old would have acted this way?

 

[Caper Bruins fan]

Habs fan here. The team the Habs faced last night was not the team they faced in the playoffs last year. And I'm not even talking about the absence of Boychuck, Chara and DK. In the playoffs, the Bruins were the best team of the two, they were dominating and after much rope-a-dope and Price, the Habs lucked out of winning the series. Last night on the Habs' board we were all shocked of the softness of the Bruins and lack of intimidation. Habs had it easy, it was more the Bruins playing bad than the Habs playing well. It was strange to witness. I love Habs-Bruins games and like when my team win but this wasn't the wars that we're used to. I want to beat the Bruins when they are hard to beat not like this when they are an easy prey. There's something missing in the heart of the Bruins. I didn't like that after Campbell fought Wiese for instance he talked to Wiese not saying "hey my sob that was a cheap shot, i'll get you next time!" but more like "come on man, that hit was not fair!". You think the Campbell of old would have acted this way?

The Bruins were bad alright.I am not sure I believe all the talk about the team not having an "identity",prior to Wednesday we were on a 5 game winning streak but were likely playing over our heads with the injuries we have.The Bruins will recover and be a formidable opponent again.

 

[pastamania]

What worries me the most is that while whatever you want to call the B's recent style of play is new, playing badly against the Habs isn't. Obviously injuries and the schedule don't help, but I've watched them play with full, healthy rosters after a few days rest and still mail it in (granted, not THIS badly, but my point stands). I don't know what this team's problem with the Habs is, I really don't. I don't get how we're able to keep Crosby pointless, but Dale ****ing Weise can score on us. And at this point, we can't just call it a fluke like the Toronto game the other night. This team is just consistently bad against Montreal and they're not going away so...

 

[Mount Kramer Cameras]

No Thornton, Boychuk or Iginla in the dressing room. We've replaced men with kids. Take Chara out of the mix and the struggle is real

The Bruins need a trade to regain some identity.

 

[Mione134]

The Bruins were bad alright.I am not sure I believe all the talk about the team not having an "identity",prior to Wednesday we were on a 5 game winning streak but were likely playing over our heads with the injuries we have.The Bruins will recover and be a formidable opponent again.

I hate to break it to you, but that 5 game win streak, we still played like **** and got lucky with the wins against bad teams.

We've played crappy all season, ALL season. We can't sustain a 60 minute full effort to save our lives. Our d core is inept. Our forwards are struggling, we aren't talented. We havent replaced Iggy. Our 4th line is a joke. We're a mess. Its not going to get better anytime soon. We need big help. Hopefully the FO is starting to see that.

 

[Caper Bruins fan]

I hate to break it to you, but that 5 game win streak, we still played like **** and got lucky with the wins against bad teams.

We've played crappy all season, ALL season. We can't sustain a 60 minute full effort to save our lives. Our d core is inept. Our forwards are struggling, we aren't talented. We havent replaced Iggy. Our 4th line is a joke. We're a mess. Its not going to get better anytime soon. We need big help. Hopefully the FO is starting to see that.

It is easy to say we played badly during those 5 wins after the last two games. I don't think the last two games are representative of where we are at right now.Of course,we have problems,every team does but getting Chara and Krejci back combined with the right trade and we can turn this around.

 

[remer]

The lack of talent, muscle and will is missing.
Bergy has not been good this year. We need him to lead.
Lucic has really struggled. Maybe he needs some time on a different line.
Griffiths is not a #1 RW player.
Loui is not a Bruin type of player.
Marchand inconsistent.
Kelly needs to play on the fourth line or be traded.
Campbell's time is up.
Paille- were have you been?
Gagne- cooked.

Seids is looking older and slower.
Dougie needs to be the pillar of strength.
Too many 5th and 6th defenseman.

Chia needs to make some moves. This team needs some speed. They need a scorer like Jordan Eberle.

When Healthy and looking ahead:

Lucic Krejci Eberle
Marchand Bergy Smith
Spooner Soda Fraser
Paille Koko Griffiths

Out- Loui 4.25 m ; Kelly 3.0 m , Campbell 1.6 m , Gagne 600 = Approx. 9 mill


Chara Hamilton
Seids ? ( 2.5- 3 mill defenseman)
Morrow Krug
McQuaid

Out- Bart, Miller,

 

[LouJersey]

Weisse is to us what lucic used to be to them...lucic needs to either **** or back up his words..boring.

Hope Neely was finally disgusted enough to get some muscle on this team.

 

[JOKER 192]

The lack of talent, muscle and will is missing.
Bergy has not been good this year. We need him to lead.
Lucic has really struggled. Maybe he needs some time on a different line.
Griffiths is not a #1 RW player.
Loui is not a Bruin type of player.
Marchand inconsistent.
Kelly needs to play on the fourth line or be traded.
Campbell's time is up.
Paille- were have you been?
Gagne- cooked.

Seids is looking older and slower.
Dougie needs to be the pillar of strength.
Too many 5th and 6th defenseman.

Chia needs to make some moves. This team needs some speed. They need a scorer like Jordan Eberle.

When Healthy and looking ahead:

Lucic Krejci Eberle
Marchand Bergy Smith
Spooner Soda Fraser
Paille Koko Griffiths

Out- Loui 4.25 m ; Kelly 3.0 m , Campbell 1.6 m , Gagne 600 = Approx. 9 mill


Chara Hamilton
Seids ? ( 2.5- 3 mill defenseman)
Morrow Krug
McQuaid

Out- Bart, Miller,

your putting Fraser ahead of Griffith Griffith may not be an 1st liner but Fraser isn't even an NHLer. And other than Erikkson nobody wants those other guys and even Erikksons value is low at this point.

 

[DarrenBanks56]

this is all true.
but we all saw this coming this season.
chia must have a plan because the team this year is going to hover around 500.

trades have to be made.
even with chara and krejci healthy this team is not great.

trading thornton i think is still the worst move.
boychuk deal was a close 2nd.
eriksson paille campbell and gagne should be nowhere near this club

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Weisse is to us what lucic used to be to them...lucic needs to either **** or back up his words..boring.

Hope Neely was finally disgusted enough to get some muscle on this team.

Lou,

I know you are smarter than this. Just signing some goon that can't skate is not going to fix what is ailing this team. Weise is not in Lucic's class as a player or fighter.

Personally, I'm happy that they got blown out by divisional rivals on back to back nights...if something isn't broken, it doesn't get fixed. Dan (DKH) and I were talking after the game last night and agreed, if the B's kept winning against average competition, nothing will get done.

 

[KrejciMVP]

If Lucic shows any aggression out there he will be kicked out of the game. Meanwhile MTL gets away with anything they want, ( I saw 2 missed boarding calls, puck played with high stick in front of the net etc). Thank goodness the circus at the bell centre is over for this regular season.

 

[BsEuphoria]

Lou,

I know you are smarter than this. Just signing some goon that can't skate is not going to fix what is ailing this team. Weise is not in Lucic's class as a player or fighter.

Personally, I'm happy that they got blown out by divisional rivals on back to back nights...if something isn't broken, it doesn't get fixed. Dan (DKH) and I were talking after the game last night and agreed, if the B's kept winning against average competition, nothing will get done.

This is very true. As much as points are at a premium, it needed to happen to stop the "we're fine" mentality.

 

[Hamilton Brian]

If we look at this rationally, is there value to righting the ship this year? Any trades we make now will be more detrimental long-term, I think. A no team is going to give us the Phil Kessel gift again. This feels like 2006/2007 all over again for me. It was lousy, it sucked, but in 2008/2009 we gained a swagger back. There's no swagger this year.

And, if this is life sans Chara, who Rask better be shovelling a bulk of his payday to, then be prepared for a staggering ride. It's not pretty. As much as I gave Chia the benefit of the doubt, I think the Sequin trade and the Boychuk trade reek of oveconfidence and pretentiousness. This is all hindsight, naturally, but this feeling really sucks.

 

[BsEuphoria]

If Lucic shows any aggression out there he will be kicked out of the game. Meanwhile MTL gets away with anything they want, ( I saw 2 missed boarding calls, puck played with high stick in front of the net etc). Thank goodness the circus at the bell centre is over for this regular season.

But it's probably not for the playoffs and it usually seems in the cards, even more so now that we will be facing them. What I do like is that if the B's can shape themselves up by the season's end, they will feel like the underdog going in that building and we know how they play with their backs against the wall. Lots of things need to change before then though.

 

[ODAAT]

No Thornton, Boychuk or Iginla in the dressing room. We've replaced men with kids. Take Chara out of the mix and the struggle is real

The Bruins need a trade to regain some identity.

Some here were or have been screamin for the kids to get a chance, were seeing it now, and this is what often happens when youth is served.

Either way, the boys came out and played a great first period, then completely forgot or dismissed that focus and decided to take their stupid pills in the dressing room

Frustrating for sure, ironically, it wasn`t the kids making the biggest mistakes

Seids and Dougie were brutal from the 2nd on, bah, who am I kidding, the whole team was brutal from the 2nd on

Reading many saying no Iggy/Boychuk/Thorty but really, did this team not play the exact same way last season with them in the lineup??

Yeah, hate injuries for excuses, but you take a Subban and Plekanec out of that Habs lineup, then stuff 2 D-men who started the year in the AHL on the back into action, and have another playing on the Looch line, they`d struggle as well

Either way, struggles I understand, how that team just forgot how to play between periods.......

Oh well, too many years of watching this game has allowed me to digest these recent losses and move on, the most frustrating part of a loss at the hands of a Hab is showing my face at work and having to listen to all those jackwagon fans of there`s there, most who were barely walking when the Habs won anything significant

 

[DKH]

Weisse is to us what lucic used to be to them...lucic needs to either **** or back up his words..boring.

Hope Neely was finally disgusted enough to get some muscle on this team.

Lou, they had the plan they didn't do it. Campbell and Bart would have been moved. But Soup got the hernia. So the $2.8 or whatever they would have saved ended up being Boychuk. But it wasn't supposed to be. Spooner was supposed to be given a real legit shot at fourth line - but once they couldn't move Campbell Claude dug in. His pathetic barbs at Ryan's game after the Montreal and islanders preseason and the benching after 4 shifts in Detroit on October 15th left Chiarelli with nothing else to do.

The Spooner pup was rejected by mom 'Claude'. And Ryan was banished to Providence to play LW to increase his market value for trade. Some in the media bought the smear campaign that he is not a center which is hilarious. I certainly can see trying him there but it's apparent he's a center. He made AHL first team as a center 'The Year of the Daugevans'.

No revisionist history here some of your best buds knew this before the Mid week massacre.

And Gagne was never part of the plan. Loved him as a Flyers player but this is about appeasing Bergy and the LA Kings model of sprinkling in young cheap home grown talent didn't happen- yet.

Boychuk and his perfect Style and love able goofy personality are gone and can't be recovered. Spooner is trying to build up his trade value in Providence. Campbell and Paille (my fav so this hurts) play out their last year here.

They can still trade Campbell and try Koko- I believe the Spooner/Julien is done. Koko could be better long term fit but we never really got to see Spooner get a chance to succeed right from the start.

So much to say so conflicted how to do it properly

 

[TD Charlie]

Is it safe?

Man that was ugly. Really good 1st period but Montreal just did whatever they wanted after that. Not a single Bruin played with pride the last two nights, and against those two teams? That's very difficult to accept. At a certain point the pre and post game quotes are meaningless until they destroy a good team. We are at that point.

This is probably the worst outlook I've had on this team in ten years.

 

[remer]

Lou, they had the plan they didn't do it. Campbell and Bart would have been moved. But Soup got the hernia. So the $2.8 or whatever they would have saved ended up being Boychuk. But it wasn't supposed to be. Spooner was supposed to be given a real legit shot at fourth line - but once they couldn't move Campbell Claude dug in. His pathetic barbs at Ryan's game after the Montreal and islanders preseason and the benching after 4 shifts in Detroit on October 15th left Chiarelli with nothing else to do.

The Spooner pup was rejected by mom 'Claude'. And Ryan was banished to Providence to play LW to increase his market value for trade. Some in the media bought the smear campaign that he is not a center which is hilarious. I certainly can see trying him there but it's apparent he's a center. He made AHL first team as a center 'The Year of the Daugevans'.

No revisionist history here some of your best buds knew this before the Mid week massacre.

And Gagne was never part of the plan. Loved him as a Flyers player but this is about appeasing Bergy and the LA Kings model of sprinkling in young cheap home grown talent didn't happen- yet.

Boychuk and his perfect Style and love able goofy personality are gone and can't be recovered. Spooner is trying to build up his trade value in Providence. Campbell and Paille (my fav so this hurts) play out their last year here.

They can still trade Campbell and try Koko- I believe the Spooner/Julien is done. Koko could be better long term fit but we never really got to see Spooner get a chance to succeed right from the start.

So much to say so conflicted how to do it properly

"I believe the Spooner/Julien is done. " If this is the case, that is pretty sad. Just because an offensive player has some issues with defense, Clode banishes them.
Funny that Kessel and Sequin couldnot play for the Bruins under Clode's iron fist, but can play elsewhere and be a top point producer. Right now Kessel and Sequin are 3rd and 4th in the league with points. Closest Bruin is 61st- Bergeron.

 

[ODAAT]

Is it safe?

Man that was ugly. Really good 1st period but Montreal just did whatever they wanted after that. Not a single Bruin played with pride the last two nights, and against those two teams? That's very difficult to accept. At a certain point the pre and post game quotes are meaningless until they destroy a good team. We are at that point.

This is probably the worst outlook I've had on this team in ten years.

It was ugly after the 1st for sure

Thankfully, I missed the Leaf game

I`m not a panic fan but first chance Chia has to shake something up (and nope, no way I`m getting into the speculation game), he may have to do it

Was wondering how the kid core would do against teams that were stronger and it appears as though they struggled, disappointing? Sure, unexpected? Not one bit

Oh well, this team looks bad right now, not sure a Boychuk/Thorty or an Iginla would have made a lick of difference, this team continues to take goofy pills when playing the Habs.

Me thinks it`s time for Gagne to take a seat or given one on a flight, absolutely appreciate his career, was and has been a really good pro but he isn`t right here, call Robbins up, get a little energy flowing, Fraser, outside of one solid game continues to leave me asking "what is he"?

Love Griff, not sure he`s ideally 1st line material but would be a much better fit on a 2nd or 3rd line role where less attention is paid but the kid`s played well.

Trotman/Morrow looked young last night, didn`t notice Krug one bit, Quaider is so exposed against any team with speed, but Hamilton and Seids were, hands down, the circus act back there but again, that`s not always surprising when a D is missing a guy like Z who, on the wrong side of 35 or not, is still an absolute equalizer out there

 

[ODAAT]

"I believe the Spooner/Julien is done. " If this is the case, that is pretty sad. Just because an offensive player has some issues with defense, Clode banishes them.
Funny that Kessel and Sequin couldnot play for the Bruins under Clode's iron fist, but can play elsewhere and be a top point producer. Right now Kessel and Sequin are 3rd and 4th in the league with points. Closest Bruin is 61st- Bergeron.

Savvy found a way under the "iron fist"....just sayin, not trying to stir it up

 

[rudos1]

Wow I tend to be a pessimist about the Bz but they have some tough injuries to key players, play a couple stinkers and everyone is bailing? I thought at the begining of the season they would be playoff material but not cup contenders and I still think so. There is a lot of hockey left to play. Stay tuned I am...

 

[Fenian24]

I think something is up with the entire team. Just no heart at all. Worst part is they look like they don't even give a ****

Sickening

Which is what happens when you let toughness and leadership go for a new vision that you don't have the players to make happen.

The speed and skill thing in place of toughness, when all that was involved was retooling the fourth line because they wanted to get rid of Thornton, was a joke. Now you have little toughness, less leadership and are still slow.

There is a reason when we were grading Chiarelli I gave him a D for the past two years. This disaster is his fault, whether that be because of poor cap management or an inability to bring about a vision for his team that he is not capable of doing.

Awful drafting which leads to lack of legitimate prospects has now handicapped this team to the point where they may not make the playoffs, and even if they do it will be one and done. Which will lead to taking some kid in the draft who will probably fail because Chiarelli is pretty clueless when it comes to drafting. But we will then sign a 5 foot 7 NCAA defenseman to make up for it.

If they have any intent on making a push for the playoffs this year deal for Chris Stewart, add a fourth liner that hits and fights for Gagne and add a veteran defenseman. If not move some vets, package Spooner and Knight for a legit prospect because it certainly looks like their time here is done, and hope Chiarelli doesn't blow the rebuild.

 

[Fire Sweeney]

"I believe the Spooner/Julien is done. " If this is the case, that is pretty sad. Just because an offensive player has some issues with defense, Clode banishes them.
Funny that Kessel and Sequin couldnot play for the Bruins under Clode's iron fist, but can play elsewhere and be a top point producer. Right now Kessel and Sequin are 3rd and 4th in the league with points. Closest Bruin is 61st- Bergeron.

In Kessel's case, that was more Chiarelli thinking he was not worth $4m... and the ****ing idiot wasted an entire season banking on Marco Sturm's healthy return which gave us 0 playoff point.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

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