Canadian Government Freezing Hockey Canada Funding- (2018 Canada World Jr Team Alleged Sexual Assault)

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hockey20000

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are people actually suggestioning to have no team canada at world juinors in august/december because of this? smh so stupid.. what happened here is wrong and the 8 players should face court cases/jail time and hockey canada should be paying a big fine plus leadership cleared house but punishing the next generation of players is not the way to go.
 

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Do you even know what post you replied to? Are you keeping up with this thread?

The human charter of rights and the court system has little to do with whether the IIHF should allow a demonstrably scummy organization like Hockey Canada to ice a hockey team this august.
Thank you. People throwing legal jargon around like they're elbows.

That being said I think the Canadian team should potentially not be allowed to use Canadian logo, like the Russian Olympic team
 

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Someone was keeping track on Twitter. There are I believe 14 left that have not said anything about this or released any statements.
 

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are people actually suggestioning to have no team canada at world juinors in august/december because of this? smh so stupid.. what happened here is wrong and the 8 players should face court cases/jail time and hockey canada should be paying a big fine plus leadership cleared house but punishing the next generation of players is not the way to go.

No kidding. What a stupid idea.

Russia isnt going because they invaded a damn country for no real reason. Imagine Canadians don't go because a couple of them did something they shouldn't of 4 years ago.
 
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inthe6ix

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8 players were involved

Is there a list of all the players who were at the dinner minus all of those who publicly said they were not involved


It would seem someone in that list is not being truthful.
 

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It would seem someone in that list is not being truthful.

There's a number of weak statements. Lack of a statement, is not an admission of guilt.
 
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It would seem someone in that list is not being truthful.

Well, Katchouck "denied wrongdoing", or something like that. Which means basically squat if the group claims that she had given consent.
 

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The dam is about to break regarding this story, and it can't happen soon enough.

Hockey's toxic culture has needed a reckoning for an extremely long time, and as disgusting & heartbreaking as these stories are, it helps push things in a direction that the sport needed to go eons ago.

As a former CHL player and CJHL player, I 100% agree....the toxic culture around hockey in regards to sexual behaviors as well as bullying type behavior needs to change. It has been going in the right direction, but this situation is obviously one that shows regression, especially players that should of known better, having agents, playing high level hockey and for team Canada, one would assume the conversation of sexual activities/partying/women has been broached several times to these players. But obviously they didn't get the message.

I for one, have never in my life been involved in this type of situation, but know 100% for sure it happened on teams I played for. As I get older/wiser and see my kids involved in the sport, I start to understand why these things were allowed to happen.

I look back at my time in hockey and come to the conclusion:

1. Many hockey players come from out of town/different city, they arrive in a new community and often start to receive multiple messages/DM's from girls/women in that community. I currently billet players playing at a high level and have seen this happen many times. Without knowing the girls/women, the players engage in conversations and it goes from there. I don't understand why girls/women seek out the players even before they arrive, but perhaps a new face, athletic, potential to have a future with the player and get out of the community with that player. Or perhaps to seek out fun....or all of the above.

2. Players feel invincible and don't nee to be accountable now that they are away from family/friends. Kind of the same attitude of "What happens in Vegas Stays in Vegas". It gives people the idea that they can get away with more and willing to take more risks because it is not where they have come from.

3. Sexual acts are still deemed as private/taboo acts to talk about in public settings. So if a woman/girl has sex with players, their is still the idea in most peoples minds it won't get out. If they do the details don't etc.

4. Sexual assaults are very very hard to prove after the fact as it often comes down to ones word against the other. Consent is also a very poorly understood definition by most people not involved in the judicial system. So a consenting adult female may revoke consent throughout the act, but those who are involved may not understand that and proceed on.

We are all still human, we all still have deeply rooted desires surrounding who/how we pursue partners....those things are changing and social norms are becoming better. But there are still animalistic tendencies for females to seek out partners they believe will give them and their offspring the best chance at success in life. Hockey players are often those types of historical individuals.

I don't understand why these things still happen....why players ever think its right to take advantage of a woman in this position. Its wrong on all levels....but the culture of hockey and women in Canada is a deeply routed thing. And it needs to be talked about and understood....

I hope that these players aren't thrown out like trash right away....their needs to be some form of a study on these types of things to understand how/why they happen to try and create an educational portion required by players/parents/coaches and executives.

I hope this doesn't get too ugly.
 

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are people actually suggestioning to have no team canada at world juinors in august/december because of this? smh so stupid.. what happened here is wrong and the 8 players should face court cases/jail time and hockey canada should be paying a big fine plus leadership cleared house but punishing the next generation of players is not the way to go.
Why not? Russia is banned for something nobody in the organization has anything to so with. Hockey Canada is directly repsonsible for covering up sexual assault.
 

Wallet Inspector

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Ok so I have a really stupid question.

After the investigation, will Hockey Canada simply come out and state who the players are? Because the victim has already settled.
 
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I have to think anyone that truly had absolutely nothing to do with this would be screaming it from the rooftops to anyone that will listen.
Why hide behind lawyers and stay silent if there is no guilt to bear?

That's your assumption but you aren't in that position and you aren't receiving counsel. Notice how statements have slowly came out since the end of May, not all at once? Yesterday people were ready to point the finger at Robert Thomas, today he presumed innocent. Who knows what the coming days will reveal.
 
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wetcoast

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Hockey Canada has yearly funds dedicated specifically to pay off victims of sexual assaults from their member.

They budget it, they plan for it in advance, on a yearly basis, like an office would budget replacement ink cartridges for the printer. And this is just the tip of the iceberg. The stuff we know about so far.

Hockey Canada has a lot to account for and should absolutely not be hosting events right now.

Do they really have a specifically named Sexual assault fund or is it a general liability fund?

But sure nice narrative without a quote once again.
 
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There's a number of weak statements. Lack of a statement, is not an admission of guilt.
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Yeah I’m not sure how an innocent person (who wasn’t present) can stand by while being called a rapist all over social media and not come up with a statement of some sort. It doesn’t add up for me, sorry.
Social media is not real life. Anyone with 2 functioning brain cells should never engage with the lunatics on there. Especially twitter.
 
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