Canadian Division (Canada Cup) Part IV

[RogerR]

So wtf happened to Vancouver? Because I picked them to take top spot. They went the furthest in the playoffs last year. They looked incredible. What the hell?

I still think they have a bright future but I did see this coming this year. They had a really bad offseason. Lost too much.

 

[Dache]

Oh, ok I will endeavor to be clear. I agree that there is no Leafs hating conspiracy on the board. However, I contend that there are many individuals who go out of their way to hate on the Leafs. I do not think these individuals are involved in any conspiracy against the Leafs.

That’s fine. There are many leaf fans that do think there is a group of “haters” I’m sure there are some posters that dislike the leafs. There’s also posters that dislike Edmonton, or Montreal, hell sometimes I see a cluster of posters that hate the jets. Yet I don’t see the sheer amount of posts like the one I commented on earlier from any of those fanbases.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

That’s fine. There are many leaf fans that do think there is a group of “haters” I’m sure there are some posters that dislike the leafs. There’s also posters that dislike Edmonton, or Montreal, hell sometimes I see a cluster of posters that hate the jets. Yet I don’t see the sheer amount of posts like the one I commented on earlier from any of those fanbases.

oh come on, no other team gets the overall league wide hate like the Leafs do

 

[Dache]

oh come on, no other team gets the overall league wide hate like the Leafs do

I think it’s far overblown how much “hate” they get. I get told my posts are leaf hate constantly yet no one can find a single one to prove it. Maybe people are sick of the posts like the one I commented on which is very common on here. And they’re replies are being interpreted as hate.

 

[BaconNater]

Its all fun and games for the leafs until they realize they have to play Montreal next game.. and they are running out of games against Ottawa this season

 

[RogerR]

Its all fun and games for the leafs until they realize they have to play Montreal next game.. and they are running out of games against Ottawa this season

They seem to be playing fine against Montreal. They've been the better teamn.

 

[AvroArrow]

He's a Habs fan. Check the profile.

He's a die hard Sens fan who comes to the mains claiming to be a leaf fan only to bash them in every thread. Wouldn't be surprised if he's claiming to be a Habs fan now.

 

[RogerR]

I think it’s far overblown how much “hate” they get. I get told my posts are leaf hate constantly yet no one can find a single one to prove it. Maybe people are sick of the posts like the one I commented on which is very common on here. And they’re replies are being interpreted as hate.

They are without a doubt the most hated team on here.

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

Its all fun and games for the leafs until they realize they have to play Montreal next game.. and they are running out of games against Ottawa this season

Almost half of Toronto's loss total comes at the hands of Ottawa....

 

[Arthur Morgan]

I think it’s far overblown how much “hate” they get. I get told my posts are leaf hate constantly yet no one can find a single one to prove it. Maybe people are sick of the posts like the one I commented on which is very common on here. And they’re replies are being interpreted as hate.

I dont see anywhere close to as many people who express as much hate towards any other team like the leafs get. people go out of their way to laugh at their short comings. vheck out Steve Dangle after the Zamboni driver or really any game where leafs blow a big lead. the views and comments are through the roof from other fans.
Leafs are also the most hated around all Canadian teams due to the media.

 

[RogerR]

I dont see anywhere close to as many people who express as much hate towards any other team like the leafs get. people go out of their way to laugh at their short comings. vheck out Steve Dangle after the Zamboni driver or really any game where leafs blow a big lead. the views and comments are through the roof from other fans.
Leafs are also the most hated around all Canadian teams due to the media.

It's so overblown. I told people this week that blown lead to Ottawa would be quickly forgotten because they'll win the next 2 games.
Remember William Nylander making 6.9 per? OMG worst contract ever! LOL

 

[Arthur Morgan]

It's so overblown. I told people this week that blown lead to Ottawa would be quickly forgotten because they'll win the next 2 games.
Remember William Nylander making 6.9 per? OMG worst contract ever! LOL

dont think u will ever find me saying that contract is bad.

 

[Leaf Fans]

That’s fine. There are many leaf fans that do think there is a group of “haters” I’m sure there are some posters that dislike the leafs. There’s also posters that dislike Edmonton, or Montreal, hell sometimes I see a cluster of posters that hate the jets. Yet I don’t see the sheer amount of posts like the one I commented on earlier from any of those fanbases.

I do. When I see them I usually ignore them or if they particularly irk me I comment with the word "nonsense" and then ignore it. Everyone does things differently.

 

[Michael HOMERUNing]

Its all fun and games for the leafs until they realize they have to play Montreal next game.. and they are running out of games against Ottawa this season

Leafs are 3-2 vs Sens, 10-3 vs rest of divison

 

[Critical13]

Its all fun and games for the leafs until they realize they have to play Montreal next game.. and they are running out of games against Ottawa this season

Do you mean the Habs team we are 2-1 against...?

 

[AD1066]

oh come on, no other team gets the overall league wide hate like the Leafs do

They are without a doubt the most hated team on here.

This isn't a dig at the Leafs, but I think Leafs fans sometimes overestimate the team's place in the collective consciousness of the other fanbases. I don't spend a lot of time thinking about the Leafs and don't feel a strong rivalry with them. They don't have any dirty or unlikable players, and haven't beaten my team in the postseason or won enough Cups recently for me to develop a dislike towards them, no offense intended. At the moment they're just a young, talented yet unproven team that may or may not fulfill their potential to win a Cup or two.

Maybe it's different between other Canadian teams or a historic rival like Boston, but I'd wager the majority of American fanbases hold a relatively neutral view towards Toronto, despite the frequent insistence on this site that everyone hates the franchise.

 

[RogerR]

This isn't a dig at the Leafs, but I think Leafs fans sometimes overestimate the team's place in the collective consciousness of the other fanbases. I don't spend a lot of time thinking about the Leafs and don't feel a strong rivalry with them. They don't have any dirty or unlikable players, and haven't beaten my team in the postseason or won enough Cups recently for me to develop a dislike towards them, no offense intended. At the moment they're just a young, talented yet unproven team that may or may not fulfill their potential to win a Cup or two.

Maybe it's different between other Canadian teams or a historic rival like Boston, but I'd wager the majority of American fanbases hold a relatively neutral view towards Toronto, despite the frequent insistence on this site that everyone hates the franchise.

Leaf fans get that based on what they see. Leafs are commented on so much by other fans.

 

[BoredBrandonPridham]

then compare 70 games to 20

What about when comparing number goals scored with 350 PP minutes to goals scored with 200 PP minutes? Is that an egregiously bad comparison, too?

 

[Arthur Morgan]

This isn't a dig at the Leafs, but I think Leafs fans sometimes overestimate the team's place in the collective consciousness of the other fanbases. I don't spend a lot of time thinking about the Leafs and don't feel a strong rivalry with them. They don't have any dirty or unlikable players, and haven't beaten my team in the postseason or won enough Cups recently for me to develop a dislike towards them, no offense intended. At the moment they're just a young, talented yet unproven team that may or may not fulfill their potential to win a Cup or two.

Maybe it's different between other Canadian teams or a historic rival like Boston, but I'd wager the majority of American fanbases hold a relatively neutral view towards Toronto, despite the frequent insistence on this site that everyone hates the franchise.

There are lots of good fans out there who share the same views as you. and this isnt just a HF Board thing. I see trolls in just about every Leafs related article with a comment section.
other teams obviously have this too I just see alot more Leafs trolls.

 

[EichHart]

The easiest division in NHL history.

 

[RogerR]

The easiest division in NHL history.

I take it you were not a live to witness the Norris division in the 80's? The division was so horrific, teams that were second to last in the entire NHl made the playoffs. That's the only way Leafs under Ballard would ever see the playoffs. Leafs, North stars, Dead Wings, Blues, Hawks, Yikes.. This is 1984-85 season Keep in mind they played each other a lot.

Norris Division
St. Louis Blues*	80	37	31	12	86	.538	299	288	-0.04	-0.18
Chicago Black Hawks*	80	38	35	7	83	.519	309	299	-0.05	-0.18
Detroit Red Wings*	80	27	41	12	66	.413	313	357	-0.66	-0.11
Minnesota North Stars*	80	25	43	12	62	.388	268	321	-0.77	-0.10
Toronto Maple Leafs	80	20	52	8	48	.300	253	358	-1.36	-0.0

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[kevsh]

On the Fan590 this morning someone said that American players (or players on American teams) were concerned that players on Canadian teams will dominate the awards this year due to the Canadian press focusing on North Division games more and not seeing what's happening south of the border.

Good point, but there's also the fact that the North division has 7 of the top 8 point getters this year and the top 5 goal scorers. So, there's that.

 

[Drytoast]

They lost their #1 goalie in Markstrom and defenceman Tanev to UFA (both signed in Calgary).
Toffoli signed in Montreal

You know like changes that happen in the off season impacted them. They're not exactly the same team that went to the playoffs last season. And those changes were significant according to their goal differentials. Yikes!

Monetary contract reasons?

 

[The Blueprint]

The easiest division in NHL history.

Too bad we didn't have the Sabres too more free points

 

[RogerR]

On the Fan590 this morning someone said that American players (or players on American teams) were concerned that players on Canadian teams will dominate the awards this year due to the Canadian press focusing on North Division games more and not seeing what's happening south of the border.

Good point, but there's also the fact that the North division has 7 of the top 8 point getters this year and the top 5 goal scorers. So, there's that.

The 2 top point scorers are the same as last year...

What has changed really? Even someone like Marner had 94 points 2 years ago when he wasn't in his prime. Matthews had 47 goals in 70 games.