Canada's WJC Team!

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Mackattack said:
I'm a bit suprised Price got cut... but apparantly he let in 3 goals on the first 3 shots he faced in the final exhibiton game... he needs to be mentally stronger than that to be in net for Team Canada.

Maybe Sutter was looking for a backup goalie after Pogge. If that was the case, then Price giving up goals his first three shots would not look good if he was going to play a backup role on the team.

If you were Sutter would you be confident in switching goalies to shake-up the team in the tournament if Price let 3 goals on 3 shots in during training camp? Some goalies can handle being a back-up, others can't. I think a lot of the complainers on the board are not taking this into account.
 
no way should pyatt be there before setoughi. And Downie? I hope their penalty killing line is dead on because they are the ones that are going to get the most ice time. :shakehead
 
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(Originally Posted by Mackattack)
I'm a bit suprised Price got cut... but apparantly he let in 3 goals on the first 3 shots he faced in the final exhibiton game... he needs to be mentally stronger than that to be in net for Team Canada.
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What most people forgot to mention is that he (in the end) made 17 saves out of 20 shots. He let in about 3 out of the first 4 or five, after that nothing. Huge difference.
No matter, he should be there next year.

Go Canada Go!
 
i love how people a continent away are bashing or hailing the decisions and line combinations. conveniently, most of the bashing comes from fans of the teams whose prospects didnt make it or are being projected on to the fourth line.
 
My forward lines:

Pouliot - Cogliano - Latendresse -- stick with what works
Bertram - Toews - Bolland -- speed and skill
Boyd - Chipchura - Comeau -- grinding defensive line
Pyatt - O'Marra - Blunden -- keep the Erie boys together
Downie
 
nomorekids said:
i love how people a continent away are bashing or hailing the decisions and line combinations. conveniently, most of the bashing comes from fans of the teams whose prospects didnt make it or are being projected on to the fourth line.


I agree, what homers.....<<thinks back when the U.S. Roster was released>>..errrrr nevermind my comments. :innocent:
 
I think we're going to be very competitive this year. It seems like everyone is writing them off this year and I think they could really surprise everyone. When you look at that roster, it's a great team. That's the key. They're a great team. There isn't one outstanding individual talent, it's a collective unit of great talent. They're going to be really tough to stop. I'm thinking there's no reason why they can't win gold again.
 
Jon Prescription said:
Pretty much every player in the NCAA has outplayed him all year...

I guess that speaks volumes about the defensemen who got cut then (including other caps draft pick, Jeff Schultz)... :amazed: :confused:
 
not sure if it's been mentioned here yet, if so sorry, but can anybody clear up how to pronouce Jonathan Toews' last name? I originally was just saying it how it looks, but on TSN it sounds like there saying Taves or something. Anybody know?
 
No matter what way you slice it....Team Canada is awesome...solid lineup and the boys got my 100% support...

I honestly think its gonna take a lot to beat the defending champs on their home turf...Team USA may have it, they are a stacked team....its gonna be a lot of fun, I know I'll be at the Dec 31-Canada vs. USA battle...gonna be one for the ages
 
While there are a couple of omissions that I don't agree with (Price and Setoguchi being the biggest), it's still a good TEAM. If Canada wants to win, they're going to need strong goaltending, a repeat performance from Sutter behind the bench, and a total team effort from our top forward to our 7th defenceman. The team in 1993 was very young, and nobody gave it much of a shot of medalling. But the coaching of Perry Pearn, the goaltending of Manny Legace and the commitment to the team concept carried Canada to gold.

Pogge should be fine in goal. I would have liked to see Price as his back-up, but in this tournament, back-up isn't that important. As long as Dubnyk does his job against Norway and Switzerland, is the back-up really that important?

I love seeing Pokuluk on the team. He's big, he's strong, and he's thrived on international-sized ice before while with Notre Dame. The defence is young, but a top five of Barker, Staal, Bourdon, Russell and Parent bring a blend of talent. Barker will be our PP guy, Staal's smart and steady in all zones, Russell and Bourdon bring multiple contributions and Parent is a terrific defensive defenceman.

On a team that could struggle to score, I would have liked to see Setoguchi, especially ahead of Pyatt. I'm not a big Steve Downie fan, I think he's an idiot at times, but I think he could be this year's Jordin Tootoo: an aggressive, physical, bull in a china shop crowd pleaser with some skill. (Tootoo was never used right in 2003). I think Cogliano, Pouliot, Latendresse and Bolland will have to shoulder the load offensively. Toews is a born winner, he has thrived for Canada on the international stage, but asking him to be an offensive producer is asking a little bit much. Chipchura is the right pick for captain. He's a born leader and an excellent character player. I don't think he's quite the leader that Mike Richards was, or as good of an all-round player, but with Chipchura, leadership and character won't be a concern.
 
Wow, I guess I have way more faith in Sutter than most people do.

That roster looks like gold to me.
 
I really hope that Pogge keeps up with his good play because If he doesnt, we're in big troubles.
 
I think people are complaining about this team because it doesn't have names like Crosby, Carter, Phaneuf, Richards, Bergeron, etc.

Canada's team does not approach the US's skill overall this year. That does not mean they can't beat them. Anyone who doesn't think Canada has a shot to win every game they play is the next team the Canucks will beat.

As far as I'm concerned, Canada is still the defending champs.
 
TransportedUpstater said:
I think people are complaining about this team because it doesn't have names like Crosby, Carter, Phaneuf, Richards, Bergeron, etc.

Canada's team does not approach the US's skill overall this year. That does not mean they can't beat them. Anyone who doesn't think Canada has a shot to win every game they play is the next team the Canucks will beat.

As far as I'm concerned, Canada is still the defending champs.
True, but 2 years ago when really no one new Carter Phaneuf and Richards etc, they came to withen a period of winning gold before they melt down. This team is very similar this year a lot of unknows, like Cogs a better Tambelli, Omara who is similiar in style to Getzlaf, Pouliot who is similiar to Carter. If all these guys step up, we could have a similiar team.
 
surixon said:
True, but 2 years ago when really no one new Carter Phaneuf and Richards etc, they came to withen a period of winning gold before they melt down. This team is very similar this year a lot of unknows, like Cogs a better Tambelli, Omara who is similiar in style to Getzlaf, Pouliot who is similiar to Carter. If all these guys step up, we could have a similiar team.


The difference is that there's no Marc-Andre Fleury this year. Yes, I know that many Canadians blame him solely for the meltdown in the gold medal game, but you cant forget that prior to that, he had a great tournament and was coming off being drafted first overall. He gave the Carters, Richards, Dawes, Stewarts, Phaneufs...a chance to get settled in and comfortable.

Can Pogge do that? Maybe, maybe not. That's the question mark I see on team Canada, along with "can this group of forwards score enough goals, if the goaltending doesn't hold up?"
 
nomorekids said:
The difference is that there's no Marc-Andre Fleury this year. Yes, I know that many Canadians blame him solely for the meltdown in the gold medal game, but you cant forget that prior to that, he had a great tournament and was coming off being drafted first overall. He gave the Carters, Richards, Dawes, Stewarts, Phaneufs...a chance to get settled in and comfortable.

Can Pogge do that? Maybe, maybe not. That's the question mark I see on team Canada, along with "can this group of forwards score enough goals, if the goaltending doesn't hold up?"
Actually, I thought Fleury was rather mediocre two years ago. He was fantastic in Halifax, and his play in that tournament was a primary reason he was drafted first overall. But he had let in some soft goals at the 2004 WJC, even before the third period vs. the U.S., and wasn't making the saves he made the year before. The reason few remember that is because the team that year was already stacked, with several tournament all-star candidates.

Canada would have been in the tournament final with any one of the four goalies that were in camp: Fleury, Ward, Harding and Deslauries.
 
Going out on a limb and predicting GOLD for Canada with Sutter and Mackasy's selections hailed as brilliant after it's all over.
 
domefan said:
Going out on a limb and predicting GOLD for Canada with Sutter and Mackasy's selections hailed as brilliant after it's all over.

Team Canada is heavy underdogs to the US and Russian teams ..

But Brent Sutter will bring out the heart of this team and use the underdog to propel them in this tourney .. Its going to be tough but you have to have faith . .
 
Mess said:
Team Canada is heavy underdogs to the US and Russian teams ..

But Brent Sutter will bring out the heart of this team and use the underdog to propel them in this tourney .. Its going to be tough but you have to have faith . .

I have to agree that we are underdogs and it's going to be tough. However, where I disagree with most people is that it isn't as if Sutter and Mackaskey don't know what they're doing. They know what it takes to win. The players they cut were cut for a reason.

I think the underdog concept is great for this team. There's no pressure on them to win. How heavy do you think the pressure will be on the U.S. and the Russian teams? If anything, those teams will have to be watched closely because if they tie games where they should have won or if they lose to teams they should have beat, it's going to go downhill for them. The chances of them self imploding are really high.
 
I'd take Little over Pyatt
Setoguchi over Downie

That would have provided with some awesome offfensive firepower while sacrifincing little in terms of grit. Setoguchi is physical and shoots hard. But whatever, we'll still contend for a medal and possibly the gold. The crop of '87s looks strong.

The rest is fine and maybe switch Dubnyk for Ellis just based on a hunch. I know Ellis performed like **** but he's clutch, kinda like Corey Crawford a couple of years ago.
 
Leachmeister2000 said:
I'd take Little over Pyatt
Setoguchi over Downie

That would have provided with some awesome offfensive firepower while sacrifincing little in terms of grit. Setoguchi is physical and shoots hard. But whatever, we'll still contend for a medal and possibly the gold. The crop of '87s looks strong.

The rest is fine and maybe switch Dubnyk for Ellis just based on a hunch. I know Ellis performed like **** but he's clutch, kinda like Corey Crawford a couple of years ago.
You need grinder, role players like Pyatt. And Downie brings an edge to the team that is also needed. You can't just rate all the players and take the top 20.
 
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