Can we beat Tampa?

[LeafLoyalist]

Since you're great at playing ref.



Would you call this every time as a ref?

100% but there were plenty missed calls both ways....I've yelled and blamed refs far too long to depend on them to win. In a 7 game series there a plenty complaints both ways, but in critical moments be smarter.

 

[AllHeartNoSkill]

I think they beat Tampa this year. In fact, I’m declaring it so!

Tampa’s window’s gotta close at some point. Plus I just can’t see ANOTHER first round exit.

 

[Divine]

100% but there were plenty missed calls both ways....I've yelled and blamed refs far too long to depend on them to win. In a 7 game series there a plenty complaints both ways, but in critical moments be smarter.

The problem is both happened in the same game.

Both went against the Leafs in critical moments. One is a phantom high stick that leads to a 2-man advantage. Kerfoot does not get a high sticking penalty if the referee doesn't call the first one.

THEN, when the game goes to OT, teams are allowed to hold Matthews for 7 seconds in front of the net and it's let the boys play.

The first round was the most lopsided officiating in the first round (Tampa had way more PP's than Toronto, other teams were almost all equal)

 

[Cleetus]

Since you're great at playing ref.

Would you call this every time as a ref?



And this is 100% a penalty to you as a ref right?

this was when Frank Seravalli was pro leafs, now he seems to be the opposite gone total

 

[Lightsol]

LOL...unbelievable....and then you wonder why we are shit on as a fan base.

 

[LeafsFan89]

You can cry about Dubas all you want. But if we can't beat Tampa Bay this year, then it is on the players who are paid like big stars but yet again don't perform like big stars should in the playoffs.

 

[LeafLoyalist]

The problem is both happened in the same game.

Both went against the Leafs in critical moments. One is a phantom high stick that leads to a 2-man advantage. Kerfoot does not get a high sticking penalty if the referee doesn't call the first one.

THEN, when the game goes to OT, teams are allowed to hold Matthews for 7 seconds in front of the net and it's let the boys play.

The first round was the most lopsided officiating in the first round (Tampa had way more PP's than Toronto, other teams were almost all equal)

I'm pretty sure Kampf got the first one...if you look at the video then you will see the jersey ride up into Foote's face, it sure looked like a high stick in game speed, had it not hit the jersey would have hit his face. Now my question is WHY be so out of control in a game 6 3rd period 200 ft from your net with a 1 goal lead? Then, Kerfoot decides he wanted to score a short handed goal by decapitating Hedman...it's frustrating to watch tbh. The grabbing of the jersey, could have been called, maybe obstructed Mathews but it's a risk, if Mathews had the puck then definitely a sure call. Besides 1/10PP in G5-7 for Toronto, giving up a shorthanded goal.

For years i wondered what would have happened if Gretzky was called for the high stick, but to be honest, Toronto still had game 7 to win it out, and they failed to win at home in g7. You still have to win in the end, and if you can't overcome some missed calls, or staying discipline then you don't deserve it.

 

[PROUD PAPA]

Of course we can beat Tampa. Could've done so last year as well.

 

[Cleetus]

to me the X factor is goaltending, if we get Decent goaltending we can dispatch these guys in 6! watching Vasi against Detroit on Saturday he was his Vezina caliber form.... but I think we got the players here who can light him up, Leafs in 6

 

[AvroArrow]

The problem is both happened in the same game.

Both went against the Leafs in critical moments. One is a phantom high stick that leads to a 2-man advantage. Kerfoot does not get a high sticking penalty if the referee doesn't call the first one.

THEN, when the game goes to OT, teams are allowed to hold Matthews for 7 seconds in front of the net and it's let the boys play.

The first round was the most lopsided officiating in the first round (Tampa had way more PP's than Toronto, other teams were almost all equal)

To make it worse that should've been 2 minutes for embellishment, the stick hit his jersey near the logo. Foote snaps his head back like he took an uppercut. Even the Kerfoot call was iffy, Hedman sticklifted the stick into his own face. If that's the case, players can literally just draw a pp at will.

Bunting also took a headshot in the crease in OT without it being called

I'm pretty sure Kampf got the first one...if you look at the video then you will see the jersey ride up into Foote's face, it sure looked like a high stick in game speed, had it not hit the jersey would have hit his face. Now my question is WHY be so out of control in a game 6 3rd period 200 ft from your net with a 1 goal lead? Then, Kerfoot decides he wanted to score a short handed goal by decapitating Hedman...it's frustrating to watch tbh. The grabbing of the jersey, could have been called, maybe obstructed Mathews but it's a risk, if Mathews had the puck then definitely a sure call. Besides 1/10PP in G5-7 for Toronto, giving up a shorthanded goal.

For years i wondered what would have happened if Gretzky was called for the high stick, but to be honest, Toronto still had game 7 to win it out, and they failed to win at home in g7. You still have to win in the end, and if you can't overcome some missed calls, or staying discipline then you don't deserve it.

Better question is why is the referee calling a high sticking penalty when the play is not a high stick

 

[Notsince67]

We're one Tonya Harding boyfriend away from beating them.

Hmmm.
Nancy Vasikerrigany?

 

[kb]

We could win if Dubas shook up the core 4. I don’t think these guys have what it takes to win a playoff series. I don’t know how many 1st round exits do people here need as proof. 7? 8? I hope I am wrong, and I can’t wait for the playoffs to begin but I don’t know why we should expect any different results from these guys after 6 years.

I agree. The Leafs should acquire much worse players than their 'PPG in the playoffs' stars, and go for it!!

 

[PeE eL DuBoiS]

Marner and Matthews need to step up for a full series, not just 2-3 games out of 7. We need goaltending of .905 as a minimum. Ideally with consistency and closer to .910.

If we get these, we will win the series and go on a run if all things remain equal.

 

[kb]

McCabe helps. But the Bolts just improved also. I think the Leafs have better forwards. The Bolts having a true number one defenseman probably have a better blue line. And goalie, not even the most ridiculous Leaf fan can say we have a goalie advantage. Can the Leafs beat the Bolts? Sure, but the Atlantic is tougher than whale bone. All that being said. Dubas is all in. GO LEAFS GO!!!!!!

This confuses me, as people are not looking objectively at anything if they think Tampa is as good or better.

Tampa essentially paid the same thing for a 5 goal 3rd/4th line tweener as the Leafs did for all of ROR, Acciari, McCabe, and Lafferty. The Leafs when healthy were already IMO a better team, especially with Tampa losing Palat and McDonagh from last year's 7 game marathon.

The 4 thru 7 D for Tampa are Ian Cole, Zach Bogosian, Nick Perbix, and Haydn Fleury. Anyone who thinks this is a better core than the Leafs is not paying attention.

Vasi's backup just gave up a converted touchdown last night. So if Vasi is off or injured, Tampa is done. The Leafs have Samsonov, Murray, and their 3rd stringer Woll is sporting a .929 sv %.

People are giving Tampa way too much credit and the Leafs not enough.....

 

[kb]

Not sure what you're getting at, but referee sees the stick come up and hits the players helmet/face...to be detailed the video does not prove 100% it didn't hit his face. Call was made, the second with Kerfoot, he nearly decapitated Hedman. in both cases, the responsibility is on the player to be SMART, and don't put your stick in the opponents face 200 ft from your net, if i'm a ref i'm calling them both everytime. If the jersey's were reversed and they DIDN't call them, then you would be sitting here arguing the opposite. The players need to be DISCIPLINED!!!!

No, posters using an alt-account to bash with every post need to be disciplined.

Mods???

 

[LeafLoyalist]

No, posters using an alt-account to bash with every post need to be disciplined.

Mods???

So you don’t like what I say and you go crying to the nods?? Must be Gen z

 

[thusk]

Tbh no matter what i say you won't understand, but keep plugging that narrative...it's the refs!!! A goal is reviewed, totally different analogy bud. When high sticks can be reviewed then that would have been caught, before that it's the discretion of the ref as he sees it, and from opposite corner that will always look like a penalty, regardless his stick was out of control...it's risky and he lost....live with it.

Does it help you sleep at night!!!!

If you think the HOLL call was wrong, would you be ok if it was Tampa scoring on a pick play INTERFERENCE? i'm curious...you would be screaming the refs didn't call it....no matter what you always side with Blue even when they're wrong.


i was referring to McDonaugh's impact this season, JBB saw the decline in his game and needed cap to fill out the roster, so he moved him. McDonaugh may not have been the same this year as last year

Brisebois had to move money and i dont think he press the right buttom.. he tough he would be fine with hedman /sergachev /cernak ... maybe mcdonaugh was cornerstone of this D... we will see pretty soon

 

[LeafLoyalist]

This confuses me, as people are not looking objectively at anything if they think Tampa is as good or better.

Tampa essentially paid the same thing for a 5 goal 3rd/4th line tweener as the Leafs did for all of ROR, Acciari, McCabe, and Lafferty. The Leafs when healthy were already IMO a better team, especially with Tampa losing Palat and McDonagh from last year's 7 game marathon.

The 4 thru 7 D for Tampa are Ian Cole, Zach Bogosian, Nick Perbix, and Haydn Fleury. Anyone who thinks this is a better core than the Leafs is not paying attention.

Vasi's backup just gave up a converted touchdown last night. So if Vasi is off or injured, Tampa is done. The Leafs have Samsonov, Murray, and their 3rd stringer Woll is sporting a .929 sv %.

People are giving Tampa way too much credit and the Leafs not enough.....

Hey you have your opinion. So your not over valuing our D4-7 but ignore D1-3, the most important positions… got it. And ignoring one of the best goalies and comparing their back up to our starter.. got it. That’s how you want to compare?

 

[Uncle]

You can cry about Dubas all you want. But if we can't beat Tampa Bay this year, then it is on the players who are paid like big stars but yet again don't perform like big stars should in the playoffs.

this was said last year as well, and true

 

[Nineteen67]

The Leafs have the best player and if he continues to play like he has, the edge goes to the Leafs. They also have Matthews, Tavares and Opostraphy and Nylander.

 

[TorMapleJays]

I think a big thing people are forgetting is that we're cursed.

Yes but we’ve had at most 1 kadri in the play offs. Now we have 4 Kadris in the play offs.

Polillio says McCabe is a mean SoB who won’t let guys get away with anything out there.

this was said last year as well, and true

We didn’t make any moves last year like this

can we beat Tampa?

Yes

 

[CabanaBoy5]

Since you're great at playing ref.

Would you call this every time as a ref?



And this is 100% a penalty to you as a ref right?

I wasn't happy that Kerfoot took that penalty in the TB zone while killing a penalty, but for LeafLoyalist to say that he "nearly decapitated Hedman" is herculean hyperbole. You hit the nail on the head Divine, this is someone who is either a non-Leaf fan, or a Leaf fan who is really bitter at the Leafs.

 

[Gary Nylund]

The Leafs have the best player and if he continues to play like he has, the edge goes to the Leafs. They also have Matthews, Tavares and Opostraphy and Nylander.

Marner's a great player but Vasilevsky's probably the best player in the series, Kucherov and Hedman are right up there as well.

 

[Notsince67]

Love the casual chiming in for the first time of the year after not watching a thing all season. It's that time of the year.

 

[Seras]

Other teams take the leafs very seriously