GDT: CAN - SUI

[jj cale]

I think everyone agrees

Everyone agrees, there is no disputing it.

 

[Jimmy71]

Greasy shot at the goalies head there at the end.

Play was still going on maybe Genoni should be ready

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

I don't know, maybe something is getting lost in translation here. That's the most obvious suspension ever so to me phrasing "probably maybe might get looked at" seems odd.

No it isn't. This is the IIHF. You never know what they will do. Of course Canada isn't one of their favored teams so he should get a big suspension.

 

[Jimmy71]

No it isn't. This is the IIHF. You never know what they will do. Of course Canada isn't one of their favored teams so he should get a big suspension.

I think he gets the rest of the tournament

 

[SoundAndFury]

No it isn't. This is the IIHF. You never know what they will do.

Feel like this is a myth, it's actually very consistent, especially compared to the NHL where anything can be anything. Is it soft at times - sure. But I personally don't remember an instance where they didn't hand out an obvious suspension.

 

[BruinLVGA]

I've heard Gord Miller from TSN saying the Swiss think they can compete in a best on best tournament. I know they have 1 of the best defenseman in the NHL and a few really good forwards but I don't see them competing in a best on best tournament

2006 - Turin olympics: Switzerland 2 Canada 0. Switzerland with a team an order of magnitudes worse than the current team.
2010 - Vancouver olympics: Canada 3 Switzerland 2 in a shootout. Again, a team much worse than today‘s team.

 

[harpoon]

Euro fans at this tournament always cheering like they’re at a football match.

 

[Tweaky]

Play was still going on maybe Genoni should be ready

Play was way offside. That is an automatic intentional, with the face off all the way down. No way it can count as a goal, therefore it is greasy to take a shot that high on the goalie.

Notice I didn't say dirty, or a penalty. I said greasy.

 

[Boonk]

I've heard Gord Miller from TSN saying the Swiss think they can compete in a best on best tournament. I know they have 1 of the best defenseman in the NHL and a few really good forwards but I don't see them competing in a best on best tournament

I think they could. Core of:
Niederreiter
Hischier
Kurashev
Meier
Fiala
Josi
Siegenthaler
Moser
Schmid

That’s pretty good, that’s not even counting in their Swiss League players or prospects like Bischel or Knak. Good players and depth at all positions.

 

[WarriorofTime]

In this tournament with the mediocre teams iced yes.

You play the teams that are there.

 

[NyQuil]

2006 - Turin olympics: Switzerland 2 Canada 0. Switzerland with a team an order of magnitudes worst than the current team.
2010 - Vancouver olympics: Canada 3 Switzerland 2 in a shootout. Again, a team much worse than today‘s team.

The question is where they can beat a bunch of teams and win a medal as opposed to putting up an upset.

They are getting there.

 

[theslatcher]

I don't know, maybe something is getting lost in translation here. That's the most obvious suspension ever so to me phrasing "probably maybe might get looked at" seems odd.

I mean it's the IIHF, so wouldn't be too shocked at him getting nothing or just a game.

 

[WarriorofTime]

I think they could. Core of:
Niederreiter
Hischier
Kurashev
Meier
Fiala
Josi
Siegenthaler
Moser
Schmid

That’s pretty good, that’s not even counting in their Swiss League players or prospects like Bischel or Knak. Good players and depth at all positions.

They have a 5-man unit that can hang with anyone. If you could true fatigue off like it’s EA Sports then they’d have a good chance. I just don’t think their depth can hang with the top nations. But that’s why games are played on ice and not paper.

 

[BruinLVGA]

You’re right.

The Canadian coaching brain trust called Veleno into their hotel room last night and gave him secret instructions to wait until they were fighting for a puck along the boards and then stomp him on the leg.

You are being dense on purpose. No one said that this was something that was planned beforehand. But if you think that this Veleno play a la Matt Cooke is something done with no purpose, either this is indeed your first game or you are being dishonest. I believe that it‘s the latter. Don‘t be dishonest.

 

[SoundAndFury]

I mean it's the IIHF, so wouldn't be too shocked at him getting nothing or just a game.

That it might only be 2 games or so, sure I wouldn't be surprised considering there was no injury or anything. But there is no way he isn't getting suspended. Especially doing it to high-profile player which IIHF definitely wants to protect. Considering the plummeting turnout of NHL stars to these events, they might even consider throwing a book at Veleno to send the message.

 

[NyQuil]

I think all Canadians have pride of represent the Country, but there is a ton of reasons why players decline. Family- injuries-no contract- clubs say no- insurance price etc

A lot of it has to do with the hosting location.

Prague or Germany will always attract more hockey wives, I’m sorry to say.

You are being dense on purpose. No one said that this was something that was planned beforehand. But if you think that this Veleno play a la Matt Cooke is something done with no purpose, either this is indeed your first game or you are being dishonest. I believe that it‘s the latter. Don‘t be dishonest.

When did I say he didn’t do it on purpose?

Now who is being dense?

I’m saying it’s not part of Canada’s “game plan” because stomping a guy’s leg isn’t part of any game plan in today’s hockey.

What’s funny is that I’m the first person who brought the dirty play up in this thread and compared it to Matt Cooke.

Please stop being intellectually dishonest and deal with the actual facts of what I’ve said in this thread as opposed to making stuff up that I didn’t .

 

[SoundAndFury]

I legit think it's Veleno's attempt to remain relevant when it's clearer by the day he is useless as a scorer and unless he adds some other dimension he is out of the league.

 

[NyQuil]

I legit think it's Veleno's attempt to remain relevant when it's clearer by the day he is useless as a scorer and unless he adds some other dimension he is out of the league.

I don’t think there’s anything calculated about it.

They were battling for awhile before the play, it was getting more physical with more arms flailing around, and he lost his temper and lashed out with an extremely dangerous play like a moron.

We spend a lot of time analyzing plays like this when it’s usually a terrible emotional decision made in a split second.

 

[jj cale]

O.K.....................here we go.

We really need that next one.

lol......Johnson saying it's been a good game and a " chippy affair"

 

[BruinLVGA]

A lot of it has to do with the hosting location.

Prague or Germany will always attract more hockey wives, I’m sorry to say.



When did I say he didn’t do it on purpose?

Now who is being dense?

I’m saying it’s not part of Canada’s “game plan” because stomping a guy’s leg isn’t part of any game plan in today’s hockey.

What’s funny is that I’m the first person who brought the dirty play up in this thread and compared it to Matt Cooke.

Please stop being intellectually dishonest.

Not (only) „on purpose“, but „for a purpose“. Do you know the difference? You do, yet you still deflect. That‘s being dishonest. Take the L on a behavior that does soil Canada and move on. That‘s what I suggest.

 

[jj cale]

I legit think it's Veleno's attempt to remain relevant when it's clearer by the day he is useless as a scorer and unless he adds some other dimension he is out of the league.

And in other news a third period is now underway.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

That it might only be 2 games or so, sure I wouldn't be surprised considering there was no injury or anything. But there is no way he isn't getting suspended. Especially doing it to high-profile player which IIHF definitely wants to protect. Considering the plummeting turnout of NHL stars to these events, they might even consider throwing a book at Veleno to send the message.

High profile player? I would think it might go the other way as well. If they hand out a big suspension it might deter players form playing. Since you never know what might end up being a suspension.

 

[NyQuil]

Not (only) „on purpose“, but „for a purpose“. Do you know the difference? You do, yet you still deflect. That‘s being dishonest. Take the L on a behavior that does soil Canada and move on. That‘s what I suggest.

It’s not my problem that you fundamentally misunderstand what I’m saying.

Try harder next time.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Not (only) „on purpose“, but „for a purpose“. Do you know the difference? You do, yet you still deflect. That‘s being dishonest. Take the L on a behavior that does soil Canada and move on. That‘s what I suggest.

What is this ridiculous crap???? There was no underlying purpose. Veleno is not smart enough for that. And a Bruins fan should be able to tell the difference.

 

[jonas2244]

I think they could. Core of:
Niederreiter
Hischier
Kurashev
Meier
Fiala
Josi
Siegenthaler
Moser
Schmid

That’s pretty good, that’s not even counting in their Swiss League players or prospects like Bischel or Knak. Good players and depth at all positions.

Add Pius Suter to that list.