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Can anyone see the Bruins not winning the cup?

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Jesus, there's been teams a lot better than them.
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Sure, but they're a recent example of a team that looked like a juggernaut in the regular season.

beowulf said:
Yes, playoffs are a whole different beast but and their toughest competition will be in their own conference IMO.
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I feel like Boston is a favorite over Toronto, Tampa is a favorite over Boston, and Toronto is a favorite over Tampa. Just the way they match up.
 
ahmon said:
I'll be surprised if they won the cup. Even back when they were in the finals against the Blues, I thought their best players Marchand, Bergeron were worn down by the finals - and looked old.

Now a few years older hard to see them going all the way.
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Good thing our best players are now McAvoy and Pastrnak
 
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Definitely

A lot can go wrong and a lot has to go right

Ullmark could get injured, swayman as good as he is is still a rookie and has shown he can struggle in certain situations

Krejci and or bergeron could get injured

Any other big key players could throw off the team and while they might not lose in the first round because of an injury, they will have a hell of a time as it is getting past a team that knows how to win and has had their number, a team that’s by the laws of probability gotta beat them at some point, and a team that honest to god could just beat them as is

Then there’s whoever is waiting in the west , will it be a very good avalanche team trying to repeat? A good if not great vegas team with a coach that will want revenge if nothing else but to save face?

Bruins should make it deep, I think any less than conference finals is a failure, but Carolina is really good and not a great match up for the bruins. However I think if the bruins make it to the finals, they’ll win. One of those years where their odds are probably worse in round three than 4.
 
HockeyVirus said:
The Bruins are on pace for one of the best seasons in history. Now they just added Orlov and Hathaway. As far as roster construction goes, they have literally no flaws. This may be the last year of their captain and the players have clearly rallied around that.

Sometimes the best team doesn't always win, but I ask does anyone see this Bruins team losing in the playoffs?
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Jinx thread?
Chances of BOS winning the cup are not much more than them getting knocked out in round 1.

All it takes is a bad week and many favorites have been knocked out early... Look great on paper though
 
EichHart said:
The Panthers last year, the 2019 Lightning. The favorites rarely win the cup.
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The Panther's may have had the most points but they were not dominant line the Bruins are. Panther's led the league in goal differential but were only +9 better than 2nd place Calgary and +16 better than the 3rd place Avalanche. The gap between 1st and 2nd was the same as the gap between 2nd and 4th best.

Boston is currently according to NHL.com leading the NHL in goal differential +45 more than 2nd place Carolina and +48 better than Toronto. The gap between 1 and 2 is bigger than the gap between 2nd and 16th best.

That said I don't disagree with your overall point. You have to be very good, healthy, and lucky to win a cup.
 
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People seem to bet forgetting the defending Cup champions. Looking like they will have a cakewalk to the finals (unlike the East) and are one of the hottest teams over the last month - without Landeskog and missing Makar for long stretches. Bo Byram is such a key cog on this team.

I'm not sure I take the Bruins over Avs in the final. Especially after they've been through hell
 
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bearcountry17 said:
The Panther's may have had the most points but they were not dominant line the Bruins are. Panther's led the league in goal differential but were only +9 better than 2nd place Calgary and +16 better than the 3rd place Avalanche. The gap between 1st and 2nd was the same as the gap between 2nd and 4th best.

Boston is currently according to NHL.com leading the NHL in goal differential +45 more than 2nd place Carolina and +48 better than Toronto. The gap between 1 and 2 is bigger than the gap between 2nd and 16th best.

That said I don't disagree with your overall point. You have to be very good, healthy, and lucky to win a cup.
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Go look at past yrs though. Sabres and Sens wrecked the league in 05-07 with goal differential and both didn't win it. Sens had a +103 goal diff, 2nd place was Buffalo with +42
 
I predict the Bruins to lose in the 2nd round versus either Toronto or Tampa Bay.

Regular season dominance really means nothing.

I can post 5-10 better teams on paper that dominated the regular season, only to lose in the playoffs far short of winning the Stanley Cup.

Look at the 1971 Bruins, 1986 Oilers, 1993 Penguins, 1996 Red Wings, and 2019 Lightning for some examples.

I just am not sure they can win games consistently against elite teams unless they completely outplay their opponents.

For example, they have much of the same key roster components as 2018 and 2019. Yet Toronto took them to 7 games each year despite Boston severely outplaying them. Toronto had the game-breakers though, and that allowed them to win games they shouldn't have won. And Toronto is better now than they were.

They don't have the game-breakers that Toronto and Tampa Bay have. Players that can change the game on 1-2 shots.

Pastrnak is a game-breaking talent. But after him, they lack the firepower of Toronto or Tampa Bay.

Perhaps their depth can grind out victories? We will see.

I would love to be wrong, because if Toronto beats them and goes on to win the Stanley Cup, then that is something that could turn a lot of fans against ever watching hockey again.
 
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Yes I can imagine them not winning the cup. That being said they're the clear favourites, but both Tampa and Toronto will be very hard outs... Let alone whoever comes from the Metro
 
It's hockey. Goaltending goes cold at the worst time they're out the first round. Wouldn't necessarily bet on that happening, also won't blink if it happens
 
Sure. All it takes is a few injuries plus a bad stretch at the wrong time and that can cripple any team.
 
I absolutely can see it. Nothing is given in the playoffs. That said, they're stacked. It could be worse too, losing to the 8th seed like 91 Hawks, 2010 Caps, and Tampa a few years back. Actually, the 91 Hawks was worse because of the playoff setup and the North Stars wouldn't had been in the playoffs with today's setup.
 
jcs0218 said:
I predict the Bruins to lose in the 2nd round versus either Toronto or Tampa Bay.

Regular season dominance really means nothing.

I can post 5-10 better teams on paper that dominated the regular season, only to lose in the playoffs far short of winning the Stanley Cup.

Look at the 1971 Bruins, 1986 Oilers, 1993 Penguins, 1996 Red Wings, and 2019 Lightning for some examples.
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Sure, great teams don't always win the Cup, no doubt about that... but every single example you picked won two Cups within two years of that season. Maybe regular season dominance isn't that meaningless?

Also the Bruins current season is on, on paper, pacing to be better than every season you mentioned, aside from the 1996 Wings (and maybe the 71 Bruins, if you put a lot of importance on goal differential).

jcs0218 said:
I just am not sure they can win games consistently against elite teams unless they completely outplay their opponents.

For example, they have much of the same key roster components as 2018 and 2019. Yet Toronto took them to 7 games each year despite Boston severely outplaying them. Toronto had the game-breakers though, and that allowed them to win games they shouldn't have won. And Toronto is better now than they were.
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I'm not sure it's that convincing an argument. That 2019 team went to game 7 of the Finals, and they were significantly worse than the current team. They had a tragic lack of forward depth: that team spent most of the year with Danton Heinen in its top-6, compared to the current team which has Taylor Hall on its 3rd line. The defense was clearly improved by adding Lindholm (and possibly Orlov, we'll see how he fits in). For goaltending it's hard to compare (Rask had a mediocre regular season in 2019, but was very solid in the playoffs), but certainly it's been outstanding for the Bruins this year.

The Leafs did improve since then, but I don't think they improved more than the Bruins did.
 
Yes, every playoffs is a new story. Some unexpected team underachieve and some might overachieve. We see this every year. I dont expect it from Boston but when it comes to the playoffs nothing surprises me anymore.
 
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