There isn’t a single player in the world that every game will be a net positive and always “help” win.
I think Hellebuyck still hasn’t adjusted to using a smaller chest protector, even last year people kept saying Hellebuyck was having a “Vezina Caliber” season meanwhile 45% of his game he had a SV% below .901
I'm not getting drawn into the unending Maurice discussion. It's made the boards so much less fun.
Exactly. I’ve been saying the same thing. That one move would make both lines better.
Ha, ha,ha...any Lemieux-like, Gretzky-imitadors, McD'jesuus wannabees in2022 draft? We are going to need one those type players by next year to keep up with the rebuild teams, never mind SC contenders.Outplayed by two teams in midst of rebuilds
Need to get their shit together. Pp can't be this bad with all that scoring talent.
Helle been pretty bad. Atleast we got a great backup if this persists
Minnesota actually looks very competitive and solid so far. Jets are in trouble early if they don't start gelling better and firing on all cylinders every game!
No, most people here disregard +/-; the story behind the fixation on it last year was that near the beginning of the year, Maurice brought up +/- and said, "I know a lot of you stats guys don't like +/-, but it still says a lot about a player" (saying to him it was more impressive than points - his fav D, Booboo, had a decent +/- at that time, IIRC) ...
Yep, coaching change of view-purpose-system-icetime decision making is to blame. With Wheeler's leadership skills and "place high on the Post" maybe he should suggest a lesser role and for better of the team, he should demand a step back a little and promote pushing younger, core-to-be skilled players get more purposeful icetime and roles. I know that doesn't fly with most here, or on the coaches acceptable palate, but...it is more than needed and warranted. A blow it all up, backwards rebuild is only a couple seasons out if status quo prevails. I said it here! Scheifele will be requesting out. Helle will be looking elsewhere. Ehlers might actually even want to move on. Copp will already be gone. Maurice will still be coaching with Wheeler will be handling the power play, from the bench. Huddy will be "watching the D from his comforfable post" as per usual. Dubois will be gone. Perfetti & Heinola will be on a short bridge deals, wondering if they will ever get top minutes, icetime?
These are my thoughts.
Back to back games of giving up 2 PP goals, something is wrong. Fans lamented guys like Thompson, Lewis and Forbort last year, but hey you don't give up PP goals, you have a chance to win. So for me it starts there on this road trip.
I am not sure why Pionk is on the PK. Every metric, every year has said that he is not good at it, but lo and behold there he was on 2 goals. I think Stanley showed last year he belonged, so with a man in the box there is still no reason to use Pionk in this aspect. That's a peculiar coaching decision.
The PP is not clicking. I didn't like Wheeler out on the flank in Connor's spot, takes away the danger from the one-timers. He should be behind the net, and around the crease, making passes, acoring garbage goals as his speed wanes.
The most obvious thing to point out is how out of place Perfetti looks. He's not hard on the puck, and he is not winning enough battles. He looks unprepared for the big show, when you compare to other young guys that have made it. Right away moving Harkins up the lineup pays dividends. If you went by preseason that's where Harkins belonged. So I hope that change is permanent. I don't expect Perfetti to be in the lineup for Minnesota. And frankly if you want to not play Lowry-Copp until they can't move, maybe call up that Gustafsson kid, who is pretty good at killing penalties, you'd have a legit 2nd unit then.
I am a little concerned with the Brendan Dillon trade to date. He hits, but he looks like an over 30 d-man out there, who much like Forbort does not move the puck well. Going for the big hit gave up the 3-2 goal, and if he wore the name Beaulieu on the back of his sweater, you'd read 7 pages about it. I'd be looking to move big Stan up the lineup soon.
I don't expect slow starts from the Jets, but something looks disjointed. Hellebuyck giving up soft 1st goals is concerning. Wheeler's regression, though overstated, is concerning. Bad penalties are concerning. The defensive zone coverage is concerning. Special teams play is definitely a concern. The sky doesn't fall unless the homestand looks the same as the road trip, but I expect a little more dominance out of this roster. Hopefully it is something that can be had through in team adjustments, because the results are obviously disappointing to date.
The tank and fire Maurice threads are probably nearing their approach
Or a new bourbon/ whisky maker high on the list of " must haves" on the toast rack.
Down too early. Cowering his chest, shoulders inwards and losing his angles has "snipers" salivating at the " openings". Does he have a Goalie Coach in-house, who can work on his flaws anymore? I know Flaherty holds the title but?
To be fair, the collective "we' have been asking for Maurice to get the boot for a few seasons now.
First of all you’re talking about +\- not ES+\-, they’re two totally different stats. Also people heavily fixated on Wheelers ES+\- at the start of last year because early in the season he was around a -15 and people really used that to crap all over him.No, most people here disregard +/-; the story behind the fixation on it last year was that near the beginning of the year, Maurice brought up +/- and said, "I know a lot of you stats guys don't like +/-, but it still says a lot about a player" (saying to him it was more impressive than points - his fav D, Booboo, had a decent +/- at that time, IIRC) ...
I can't speak for the other posters, but I recall using Wheeler's +/- to show how Maurice constantly spins and is terrible at pattern-recognition/extrapolation. I think Mau is pretty good at observation, but he's not a long-term strategic thinker. He's better at marketing and coming up with excuses and circular arguments to justify his decisions.
So yeah, if that bothered you, now you know the source. And +/- remains a non-predictive stat (many of us here care most about future winz and long-term sustainability).
Agree. Copp and Perfetti are both miscast in this lineup, making both lines less than optimal.
