C William Nylander (2014, 8th, TOR) V [Mod warning in OP]
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Redwingsfan
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I'm well aware of Nylander's age. What does that have to do with what I said?
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I think they're trying to say that it's more impressive for a 18 year old rookie to put up similar numbers to a 24 year old rookie.
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Funny how Nyquist gets a year older in his rookie year with each post
I definitely agree with what you said though. I never claimed otherwise. I think some of you get defensive very very easily. There's very little you can say in here without someone taking it the wrong way and getting defensive.
Part of the incentive to leave him down is that it won't burn a year of his contract to leave him down another year which is a fairly rare situation in the AHL. But the thing is if he is absolutely need to be called up if he's clearly dominating the AHL because it could cause some frustration between him and the franchise similar to the Cubs/Kris Bryant situation for those that follow baseball. The financial difference between playing 9 games and even half a season in the show is huge.
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Every time I come to this thread it seems like he put up another two or three points from the night before
Hopefully they can continue to play well into the spring!
8th seed winners.good to see Nylander ahead of several other top 10 picks. I think he is going to be a steal given his draft position, should have quite easily made the top 5 in his draft year, perhaps Ehlers too.
Corey Pronman's Top 50 NHL Prospects
Rank Player Position Team Previous Rank
1 William Nylander C Toronto Maple Leafs 4
2 Sam Reinhart C Buffalo Sabres 5
3 Nikolaj Ehlers LW Winnipeg Jets 6
4 Sam Bennett C Calgary Flames 3
5 Max Domi C/W Arizona Coyotes 27
6 Kevin Fiala LW Nashville Predators 7
7 Jakub Vrana LW Washington Capitals 32
8 Derrick Pouliot D Pittsburgh Penguins 29
9 Darnell Nurse D Edmonton Oilers 23
10 Nic Petan C Winnipeg Jets 24
11 Michael Dal Colle LW New York Islanders 9
12 Anthony Duclair RW New York Rangers HM
13 Josh Morrissey D Winnipeg Jets 18
14 Kasperi Kapanen RW Pittsburgh Penguins 15
15 Pavel Buchnevich RW New York Rangers 25
16 Dylan Larkin C Detroit Red Wings HM
17 Robby Fabbri C St. Louis Blues 35
18 Griffin Reinhart D New York Islanders 20
19 Jake Virtanen RW Vancouver Canucks 26
20 Mathew Dumba D Minnesota Wild 45
21 Sonny Milano LW Columbus Blue Jackets 30
22 Haydn Fleury D Carolina Hurricanes 13
23 Vlad Kamenev C Nashville Predators NR
24 Ville Pokka D Chicago Blackhawks 41
25 Alex Khoklachev C/W Boston Bruins 55
26 Charles Hudon LW Montreal Canadiens NR
27 Brayden Point C Tampa Bay Lightning 87
28 Anthony Mantha LW Detroit Red Wings 33
29 Riley Barber RW Washington Capitals 37
30 Alex Tuch RW Minnesota Wild 89
31 Joe Hicketts D Detroit Red Wings IE
32 Ty Rattie RW St. Louis Blues 61
33 Joel Armia RW Buffalo Sabres 60
34 Axel Holmstrom C Detroit Red Wings NR
35 Travis Sanheim D Philadelphia Flyers 100
36 Josh Ho-Sang C New York Islanders 84
37 Ivan Barbashev C St. Louis Blues 67
38 Oliver Bjorkstrand RW Columbus Blue Jackets 86
39 Brendan Perlini LW Arizona Coyotes 38
40 Nick Schmaltz C Chicago Blackhawks HM
41 Shea Theodore D Anaheim Ducks NR
42 Steven Santini D New Jersey Devils 56
43 Chris Bigras D Colorado Avalanche 47
44 Nikolay Goldobin RW San Jose Sharks HM
45 Madison Bowey D Washington Capitals 97
46 Robert Hagg D Philadelphia Flyers 88
47 Michael Matheson D Florida Panthers 63
48 Julius Honka D Dallas Stars NR
49 Nikita Scherbak RW Montreal Canadiens 92
50 Nick Ritchie LW Anaheim Ducks 68
1. William Nylander, C, Toronto Maple Leafs (previous ranking: 4)
Current team: Toronto Marlies (AHL) | 2014-15 stats: 21 GP 8 G 12 A
DOB: 5-1-96 | Draft: No. 8, 2014
The top group were all close for me, and I would not say that putting Nylander No. 1 was an easy call. I leaned toward him because he stands out. His skill level is unique, his play in Sweden this year has been unique, the way he weaves through the neutral zone and gains the blue line effortlessly is unique. He's by no means a perfect player -- he has to improve his play off the puck and get a lot stronger -- but the upside is quite tantalizing.
2. Sam Reinhart, C, Buffalo Sabres (previous ranking: 5)
Current team: Kootenay Ice (WHL) | 2014-15 stats: 15 GP 8 G 19 A
DOB: 11-06-95 | Draft: No. 2, 2014
You'll watch a bunch of Reinhart and never see a ton of "wow" moments, but then you try to remember the last time he made a bad mistake, or the time he wasn't out there in a high-leverage situation, and then you notice he's racked up a ton of points. His game is effortless, yet highly effective; he's a brilliant hockey player who gets a lot done without blazing speed or a huge frame.
3. Nikolaj Ehlers, LW, Winnipeg Jets (previous ranking: 6)
Current team: Halifax Mooseheads (QMJHL) | 2014-15 stats: 24 GP 19 G 32 A
DOB: 2-14-96 | Draft: No. 14, 2014
When talking about Ehlers, it's easy to wonder what a player with a 5-foot-11, 175-pound frame will be able to do, but when you watch him, he alleviates most of those concerns. His skating is ridiculous, his skill level very high, and while he can create individual chances for himself, he's a very high-level passer as well. He's a potential game-changing forward.
4. Sam Bennett, C, Calgary Flames (previous ranking: 3)
Current team: Kingston Frontenacs (OHL) | 2014-15 stats: 0 GP 0 G 0 A
DOB: 6-20-96 | Draft: No. 4, 2014
Not much has changed with Bennett since the draft, other than he had an impressive NHL camp and an injury has kept him out since that time. His pre-draft scouting report can be found here.
5. Max Domi, C/W, Arizona Coyotes (previous ranking: 27)
Current team: London Knights (OHL) | 2014-15 stats: 27 GP 17 G 41 A
DOB: 3-2-95 | Draft: No. 12, 2013
He's his father's son without the puck, but when he does have it, he's as fun a prospect to watch as there is out there. Domi's creativity and offensive IQ are through the roof, he makes plays you don't see many players even think of trying, and he does it at a high speed in difficult situations. He's got some grit to him, too, and has significantly improved his defensive play.
Corey Pronman's Top 50 NHL Prospects
Rank Player Position Team Previous Rank
1 William Nylander C Toronto Maple Leafs 4
2 Sam Reinhart C Buffalo Sabres 5
3 Nikolaj Ehlers LW Winnipeg Jets 6
4 Sam Bennett C Calgary Flames 3
5 Max Domi C/W Arizona Coyotes 27
6 Kevin Fiala LW Nashville Predators 7
7 Jakub Vrana LW Washington Capitals 32
8 Derrick Pouliot D Pittsburgh Penguins 29
9 Darnell Nurse D Edmonton Oilers 23
10 Nic Petan C Winnipeg Jets 24
11 Michael Dal Colle LW New York Islanders 9
12 Anthony Duclair RW New York Rangers HM
13 Josh Morrissey D Winnipeg Jets 18
14 Kasperi Kapanen RW Pittsburgh Penguins 15
15 Pavel Buchnevich RW New York Rangers 25
16 Dylan Larkin C Detroit Red Wings HM
17 Robby Fabbri C St. Louis Blues 35
18 Griffin Reinhart D New York Islanders 20
19 Jake Virtanen RW Vancouver Canucks 26
20 Mathew Dumba D Minnesota Wild 45
21 Sonny Milano LW Columbus Blue Jackets 30
22 Haydn Fleury D Carolina Hurricanes 13
23 Vlad Kamenev C Nashville Predators NR
24 Ville Pokka D Chicago Blackhawks 41
25 Alex Khoklachev C/W Boston Bruins 55
26 Charles Hudon LW Montreal Canadiens NR
27 Brayden Point C Tampa Bay Lightning 87
28 Anthony Mantha LW Detroit Red Wings 33
29 Riley Barber RW Washington Capitals 37
30 Alex Tuch RW Minnesota Wild 89
31 Joe Hicketts D Detroit Red Wings IE
32 Ty Rattie RW St. Louis Blues 61
33 Joel Armia RW Buffalo Sabres 60
34 Axel Holmstrom C Detroit Red Wings NR
35 Travis Sanheim D Philadelphia Flyers 100
36 Josh Ho-Sang C New York Islanders 84
37 Ivan Barbashev C St. Louis Blues 67
38 Oliver Bjorkstrand RW Columbus Blue Jackets 86
39 Brendan Perlini LW Arizona Coyotes 38
40 Nick Schmaltz C Chicago Blackhawks HM
41 Shea Theodore D Anaheim Ducks NR
42 Steven Santini D New Jersey Devils 56
43 Chris Bigras D Colorado Avalanche 47
44 Nikolay Goldobin RW San Jose Sharks HM
45 Madison Bowey D Washington Capitals 97
46 Robert Hagg D Philadelphia Flyers 88
47 Michael Matheson D Florida Panthers 63
48 Julius Honka D Dallas Stars NR
49 Nikita Scherbak RW Montreal Canadiens 92
50 Nick Ritchie LW Anaheim Ducks 68
1. William Nylander, C, Toronto Maple Leafs (previous ranking: 4)
Current team: Toronto Marlies (AHL) | 2014-15 stats: 21 GP 8 G 12 A
DOB: 5-1-96 | Draft: No. 8, 2014
The top group were all close for me, and I would not say that putting Nylander No. 1 was an easy call. I leaned toward him because he stands out. His skill level is unique, his play in Sweden this year has been unique, the way he weaves through the neutral zone and gains the blue line effortlessly is unique. He's by no means a perfect player -- he has to improve his play off the puck and get a lot stronger -- but the upside is quite tantalizing.
2. Sam Reinhart, C, Buffalo Sabres (previous ranking: 5)
Current team: Kootenay Ice (WHL) | 2014-15 stats: 15 GP 8 G 19 A
DOB: 11-06-95 | Draft: No. 2, 2014
You'll watch a bunch of Reinhart and never see a ton of "wow" moments, but then you try to remember the last time he made a bad mistake, or the time he wasn't out there in a high-leverage situation, and then you notice he's racked up a ton of points. His game is effortless, yet highly effective; he's a brilliant hockey player who gets a lot done without blazing speed or a huge frame.
3. Nikolaj Ehlers, LW, Winnipeg Jets (previous ranking: 6)
Current team: Halifax Mooseheads (QMJHL) | 2014-15 stats: 24 GP 19 G 32 A
DOB: 2-14-96 | Draft: No. 14, 2014
When talking about Ehlers, it's easy to wonder what a player with a 5-foot-11, 175-pound frame will be able to do, but when you watch him, he alleviates most of those concerns. His skating is ridiculous, his skill level very high, and while he can create individual chances for himself, he's a very high-level passer as well. He's a potential game-changing forward.
4. Sam Bennett, C, Calgary Flames (previous ranking: 3)
Current team: Kingston Frontenacs (OHL) | 2014-15 stats: 0 GP 0 G 0 A
DOB: 6-20-96 | Draft: No. 4, 2014
Not much has changed with Bennett since the draft, other than he had an impressive NHL camp and an injury has kept him out since that time. His pre-draft scouting report can be found here.
5. Max Domi, C/W, Arizona Coyotes (previous ranking: 27)
Current team: London Knights (OHL) | 2014-15 stats: 27 GP 17 G 41 A
DOB: 3-2-95 | Draft: No. 12, 2013
He's his father's son without the puck, but when he does have it, he's as fun a prospect to watch as there is out there. Domi's creativity and offensive IQ are through the roof, he makes plays you don't see many players even think of trying, and he does it at a high speed in difficult situations. He's got some grit to him, too, and has significantly improved his defensive play.
Diamond Joe Quimby
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I'm fairly certain it's been updated since then.
It has updated stats from since the new year. Then again still has Duclair on NYR
And besides he's only improved his stock since then so it's not like he'd have dropped,
And missing Pastrnak, who is arguably ahead of Nylander in terms of prospect rankings.
It's arguable, but not necessarily true. Plenty of people would take Nylander over Pastrnak. He's not on this list because he's in the NHL though (Which does NOT automatically make him better than Nylander btw)
Didn't count him as a prospect. My bad on the outdated list though. I just saw it after a recent post.
I still think he's arguably the #1 guy though. He's cleaning up in the AHL at 18 years old.
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I'm assuming Draisaitl/Pastrnak weren't on the list because of NHL games played?
As for Nylander being #1? He's definitely in the conversation, and you can make very good arguments for him or 2-3 other guys. The fact that he's in the conversation at least is awesome though.
As for Nylander being #1? He's definitely in the conversation, and you can make very good arguments for him or 2-3 other guys. The fact that he's in the conversation at least is awesome though.
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correct, however the consesus top 3 in conversation is still Nylander, along with Ehlers and Reinhart. Nylander and Ehlers will be steals for their respective teams.
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/j...n-top-10-nhl-drafted-prospects-031436409.html
This ranking cites old stats too when Nylander had 9 points in 16 GP however it was published a month ago. He now has 27p in 33GP while also raking up PPG+ over the last 21 GP. Nylander may be in contention for top prospect if they took his new stats into consideration, but 3rd is still okay.
This guy should have been a top 5 pick easy.
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Namikaze Minato
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but he doesnt put prospects who were playing in the NHL at the time on the list (Ekblad was missing the whole time as well)
Lobstertainment
Oh no, my brains.
Nyquist was a great player in his time, brought a lot of joy to my heart, I only hope my grandson gets to see a player as gifted as he was back in the day.
Black Noise
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Funny how Nyquist gets a year older in his rookie year with each post
I definitely agree with what you said though. I never claimed otherwise. I think some of you get defensive very very easily. There's very little you can say in here without someone taking it the wrong way and getting defensive.
Leafs fans are extremely defensive when it comes to Nylander. On some Canuck threads if someone says they like Virtanen more they instantly **** on him.
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