C/W Ivan Morozov - Spartak Moscow, KHL (2018, 61st, VGK)

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First KHL playoff goal for Morozov:

 

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[Evgeny Oliker]

Very underrated prospect. He is going to surprise some people when he makes the NhL

 

[bagsw]

Very underrated prospect. He is going to surprise some people when he makes the NhL

I am afraid that he is not good enough to play in top-6 of NHL team. Looks like his hockey IQ is not that high. But I hope to be wrong

 

[Evgeny Oliker]

I am afraid that he is not good enough to play in top-6 of NHL team. Looks like his hockey IQ is not that high. But I hope to be wrong

why would his hockey iq not be high enough? He is doing very well in KHL and only showing improvement with each season.

 

[bagsw]

why would his hockey iq not be high enough? He is doing very well in KHL and only showing improvement with each season.

High enough to be a good KHL player, but not for NHL top-6.

 

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[derriko]

So what are we looking at with him? More of a defensive / faceoff 3C in the NHL? I’ve only seen him play in the WJC, but I thought he was pretty good on the 3rd line iirc in more of a checking role.

 

[SoundAndFury]

More of a defensive / faceoff 3C in the NHL? I’ve only seen him play in the WJC, but I thought he was pretty good on the 3rd line iirc in more of a checking role.

Not at all. Nor has he played much of a defensive role during WJC either.

 

[FlyguyOX]

Strikes me as a Paul Stastny type 2C.

Ok, everyone attack me. I'm ready.

 

[Evgeny Oliker]

Strikes me as a Paul Stastny type 2C.

Ok, everyone attack me. I'm ready.

I don’t think that’s a bad comparison at all. Both are very smart and underrated centers, maybe average speed but rest of their game is good. Both more play-makers than scorers.

Ryan Strome might also be a decent comparison.

 

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[WTFMAN99]

I really wanted the Leafs to take him.

Stupid Durzi.

 

[Atas2000]

He is a good playmaker. He needs to shoot more. A shame VGK has a track record of not knowing how to implement a skilled playmaker.

 

[theslatcher]

He is a good playmaker. He needs to shoot more. A shame VGK has tarck record of not knowing how to implement a skilled playmaker.

Do explain yourself here.

 

[SoundAndFury]

Do explain yourself here.

Vadim Shipachyov Describes His Time In Vegas "Like A Terrible Dream" - SinBin.vegas

 

[Atas2000]

Do explain yourself here.

@SoundAndFury explained it.

In the recent tournament both Morozov and Shipachyov played, with Shipachyov being by a mile the best player on the team, 1C and all. If Vegas drafts Morozov i.e. sees him as prospect who would contribute for them in the future and Shipachyov is right there a much better player in his prime playing the same position on a different level, then I see how Vegas really lacks logic with those decisions they made in the past. Also Morozov's style is similar to Shipachyov's, the same puck skills and vision based playmaking center style. If Shipachyov is somehow not good enough for them, then what do they expect from Morozov?

 

[theslatcher]

Vadim Shipachyov Describes His Time In Vegas "Like A Terrible Dream" - SinBin.vegas

@SoundAndFury explained it.

In the recent tournament both Morozov and Shipachyov played, with Shipachyov being by a mile the best player on the team, 1C and all. If Vegas drafts Morozov i.e. sees him as prospect who would contribute for them in the future and Shipachyov is right there a much better player in his prime playing the same position on a different level, then I see how Vegas really lacks logic with those decisions they made in the past. Also Morozov's style is similar to Shipachyov's, the same puck skills and vision based playmaking center style. If Shipachyov is somehow not good enough for them, then what do they expect from Morozov?

So, Russian playmakers. Not even playmakers, though, but playmaker. And Shippy did say it was on both parties but w/e, one thing I'll say is that his treatment was not unique. He was handled like McPhee handled Theodore, & Tuch. Even asked Shippy if he wanted to be traded to a different team to which Shippy declined and went home.

Not to mention McPhee was pretty trash at handling Kuznetsov, right? If you want Russians in general look at the Caps rosters over the years... He's not the GM anymore though. Coaching staff? One survivor from that season.

But if you want to talk about talented playmakers in general, well, that's Vegas' entire forward group except for Pacioretty, Roy, & Tuch. And also let some walk/traded away some like the aforementioned in this thread Stastny.