C Tyler Seguin (2010, 2nd overall, Boston; traded to Dallas)

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From what I have seen of the B's, I wouldnt be at all shocked to see Seguin picked there and end up playing C on a line with Savard.

Savard played wing last game and scored....it may be beneficial for Seguin to learn the ropes from an established top line centre, while not having all the resposibilities.
 

Beesfan

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Are Seguin and Backstrom a good comparison?

I think that's a very good comparison among current NHL players. Seguin might have a bit more speed, Backstrom more strength.

Stamkos is another good comparison.

So, a hybrid of Stamkos and Backstrom. Not bad!
 

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I really wish I knew more about Eberle, he is one of the most talked about and hyped prospects and I have never seen him play.

Anyway, a lot of the reports I have read have him listed as a center. So is he a center or right wing?


I guess some of the stat sites must list him as a C for whatever reason, but he's strictly a RW.
 

Qvist

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I checked four - NHL.com, hockeydb, the HF prospects ranking and THN future watch. They all list Eberle as a Center.
 

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I checked four - NHL.com, hockeydb, the HF prospects ranking and THN future watch. They all list Eberle as a Center.

Once again its the case of the best junior aged players being centres before they play in the CHL.

Eberle did not play centre in any WJHC game he has ever played.

This year with Regina he played wing on a line centered by Jordan Weal all season.

He projects as a winger, because that is what he plays. Not that this has anything to do with Seguin and the Bruins.:)

On topic, I think one skillset that gets overlooked when comparing Seguin to NHLers in Jonathan Toews....I mean instead on comparing a guy to 50 goal men, or 100 point guys, why not be conservative and say a mix of all three including Toews.

Obviously, his defensive game isnt as polished as Toews, but his offense is. His shot isnt like Stamkos' either, and Im not sure he'll ever be the pure playmaker Backstrom is, but he likely has some characteristics of all 3.
 

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You can bet that Seguin will go to Edmonton. A lot of reporters with inside knowledge to the Oilers are saying Seguin is their guy.

I'm no expert (and no where near Edmonton to hear the 'beat'), but I just have a strange feeling that they're going to roll w/Seguin.

He seems to be the safer bet, whereas Hall is a bit more of a wildcard w/regard to his approach to the game.

I think the Oilers have enough wildcards to know that they need a stable force to build around... and that's Seguin.
 

SDig14

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I'm no expert (and no where near Edmonton to hear the 'beat'), but I just have a strange feeling that they're going to roll w/Seguin.

He seems to be the safer bet, whereas Hall is a bit more of a wildcard w/regard to his approach to the game.

I think the Oilers have enough wildcards to know that they need a stable force to build around... and that's Seguin.

I'd be curious to hear your reasons why a guy who has 1 breakout year in the O is the "safer" bet than someone who has consistently put up big numbers for 3 straight years starting as a 16 yr old?
 

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You can bet that Seguin will go to Edmonton. A lot of reporters with inside knowledge to the Oilers are saying Seguin is their guy.
Last report had the Oilers scouts favouring Hall. Those reporters aren't flies that they know who the Oilers are draft. These reports are by reporters wanting Seguin not saying the Oilers are taking Seguin.
 

WoolyWhatsIt

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rumor has it that edmonton is talking with boston, not about the 2nd pick but about one of there numerous centers, Krejci and Colborne are the ones they were talking about, I doubt it happens but its an idea...

would boston be up for a cogliano for colborne deal?

what about dustin penner and cogliano for krejci and a pick?
 

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Boston would take Seguin if Hall was chosen first, no doubts about that. But I do like the notion that Boston would trade up to get Hall. I don't think Tambellini values Hall over Seguin highly enough that he wouldn't consider trading down to #2. Or just dealing for a conditional pick that depends on picking Seguin. It would be somewhat similar to the Sedins / Vancouver-Atlanta trade where Burke traded a conditional pick to Atlanta on the basis that the Thrashers would pick Stefan and leave the Sedin twins to be selected by the Nucks. That way, Tambo still looks like the hero to the fans for not sacrificing the 1st overall. He may then say he had planned to pick Seguin all along and the pick was just a freebie.

I like this idea...

Boston maybe sends their 2nd round pick in 2010 or 2011 in exhange for the Oil not taking Hall.

I would happily do that...

If Hall is there guy, who knows though... Seguin seems the type of player the Boston front office prefers... smart and high hockey IQ players.
 

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rumor has it that edmonton is talking with boston, not about the 2nd pick but about one of there numerous centers, Krejci and Colborne are the ones they were talking about, I doubt it happens but its an idea...

would boston be up for a cogliano for colborne deal?

what about dustin penner and cogliano for krejci and a pick?

no chance

Krecji is a beast... Chia wouldn't give him up for The Dion... not seeing Krecji moved for Penner.

edit- who or what is in your avatar??... I reconise it... but can't name it... I know its from my childhood, but clueless... :laugh:
 

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I like this idea...

Boston maybe sends their 2nd round pick in 2010 or 2011 in exhange for the Oil not taking Hall.

I would happily do that...

If Hall is there guy, who knows though... Seguin seems the type of player the Boston front office prefers... smart and high hockey IQ players.

No name, crap of the crap prospect and a conditional pick (Edmonton's 2nd) from Edmonton to Boston for Boston's 2nd this year and basically saying "Don,t take Hall" Edmonton still keeps the first overall. Edmonton gets a natural centre. Edmonton gets another 2nd, which they could keep and package with their 2nd to get another first rounder and get another solid prospect, so they'd have MPS, Eberle, Seguin+ another first rounder who could be a year away from making the team.

Edmonton tries to pull a fast one and takes Hall, Boston gets Edmonton's 2nd from this year. Boston could then draft Seguin, someone with their first and then potentially McFarland.
 

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No name, crap of the crap prospect and a conditional pick (Edmonton's 2nd) from Edmonton to Boston for Boston's 2nd this year and basically saying "Don,t take Hall" Edmonton still keeps the first overall. Edmonton gets a natural centre. Edmonton gets another 2nd, which they could keep and package with their 2nd to get another first rounder and get another solid prospect, so they'd have MPS, Eberle, Seguin+ another first rounder who could be a year away from making the team.

Edmonton tries to pull a fast one and takes Hall, Boston gets Edmonton's 2nd from this year. Boston could then draft Seguin, someone with their first and then potentially McFarland.

Oilers already have 2 2nd rounders this year (Nashville).
 

Teamcanada

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If the Oilers don't take Hall, it will a very bad PR move IMO; even if Seguin is the better player; the ticket-buying public will care more to take the "name" guy.

As for the Bruins they will just take whoever is left, plain and simple. If its Seguin, he either plays wing or plays on top line in providence.

As for the reports that Edmonton is talking to the Bruins on trade, not composing of the first 2 picks; duh. Edmonton will be reported to be talking to ANYONE & EVERYONE this summer, I would kinda just wait until B.Mac or Dreger mentions something at the very least.
 

WoolyWhatsIt

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no chance

Krecji is a beast... Chia wouldn't give him up for The Dion... not seeing Krecji moved for Penner.

edit- who or what is in your avatar??... I reconise it... but can't name it... I know its from my childhood, but clueless... :laugh:



that pic is of the Wooly Whats-It he was on Teddy Ruxpin
 

Haute Couturier

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If the Oilers don't take Hall, it will a very bad PR move IMO; even if Seguin is the better player; the ticket-buying public will care more to take the "name" guy.

As for the Bruins they will just take whoever is left, plain and simple. If its Seguin, he either plays wing or plays on top line in providence.

As for the reports that Edmonton is talking to the Bruins on trade, not composing of the first 2 picks; duh. Edmonton will be reported to be talking to ANYONE & EVERYONE this summer, I would kinda just wait until B.Mac or Dreger mentions something at the very least.
I think that is silly. I am sure there will be disappointment initially if they take Seguin, but the Oilers fans would ultimately get behind Seguin. Besides all that matters is wins. If Seguin ends up becoming the better player and helps that translate into wins they will show up. No one is going to care about him being the slightly lesser name at draft day.
 

arsmaster*

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I think that is silly. I am sure there will be disappointment initially if they take Seguin, but the Oilers fans would ultimately get behind Seguin. Besides all that matters is wins. If Seguin ends up becoming the better player and helps that translate into wins they will show up. No one is going to care about him being the slightly lesser name at draft day.

Not to mention there is no reason to appease the "ticket buying public" in Edmonton, its in Canada. People will go to games, this isnt like the Islanders with Tavares or Stamkos and the Lightning....or markets like Florida, Atlanta, and Phoenix who need hype to get people to come to games.
 

bruinsfan46

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I think that's a very good comparison among current NHL players. Seguin might have a bit more speed, Backstrom more strength.

Stamkos is another good comparison.

So, a hybrid of Stamkos and Backstrom. Not bad!

Chia's comparison was a hybrid of Lafontaine and Stamkos.
 

Kalamazoo Wings

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Part of the issue with the Bruins giving something to Edmonton is that it makes no sense. The B's have NO reason to give anything to Edmonton.

The only way Edmonton trades the pick to Boston is if they could give a damn who they pick, which is unlikely since that never happens with the 1st overall pick. Edmonton is going to pick who they want, whether it be Seguin or Hall. So even if the B's give them a 2nd or not, they are going to take whoever they want. The 32nd overall pick isn't going to sway them from taking their guy.
We also have no idea who either team wants. For all we know, Seguin is Boston's guy.

Point being, Edmonton is not trading the pick, so there is no reason to worry someone will move up and take whoever the B's want. The Bruins are in a position to take whoever is left over. NOTHING WILL CHANGE EDMONTON'S MIND. If Edmonton calls Boston and says, give us a 2nd and we take whoever you don't want, PC says, no thanks, we'll wait.

By the sounds of this you were in Florida at the GM meetings...you don't know. The 32nd isn't going to sway Tambellini, If Chia comes forward with the conditional offer for a pick in order to get the guy Edmonton doesn't have as part of their plan, why wouldn't they take it. It's very possible this year when there is no concensus number 1. When you are dealing with a business there is some strategy involved.

right on the main page there's a picture of hall and eberle in their team canada jerseys. there's an interview with hall where he says he'd love to play with eberle, and vice versa. their team canada connection will be cited as one of the deciding factors when they draft taylor.

Of course the media is going to hype the biggest hockey news in Edmonton in quite some time. Until I see some copy with Tambellini saying, 'Hall is our guy' it's not a lock. The only pictures and interviews that will tell us anything are the one's we see AFTER the draft.
 

WreckItRask

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It isn't impossible to see Seguin centering the 2nd line as soon as next year.Krejci could play wing next year. He's not really good at faceoffs so I could see him playing wing with Savard as these two have shown chemistry on the PP. They both possess world class vision and skills, a decent shot, smart skating, although not fast, making this move probable as Krejci can adapt to any situation. Once Bergeron's contract runs out/gets traded, Krejci can go back to center or Colborne can step in.

As for the cap problem, it isn't issue at the C position. The problem is with guys like Lucic, Sturm and Thomas.

Couldn't resist, eh? Just had to slip in your daily dose of "get rid of Bergeron" talk somewhere. Kudos to you for subtlety though.
 

Qvist

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Once again its the case of the best junior aged players being centres before they play in the CHL.

Eberle did not play centre in any WJHC game he has ever played.

This year with Regina he played wing on a line centered by Jordan Weal all season.

He projects as a winger, because that is what he plays. Not that this has anything to do with Seguin and the Bruins.:).

OK, I hear you. :)
 

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