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Krnuckfan said:
To leafs fans, where do you see Matthews, Nylander, Marner playing in the top 6? Obviously matthews would be the 1st line center but where do the other 2 slot in?
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Matthews - Marner would be together while Nylander would center the second line (or play wing on the second line depending on Stamkos). Nylander will most likely be forced onto the wing for next season if one of bozak/kadri aren't moved

All that was for the future,

JVR - Matthews - Marner
Johnson - Nylander - Brown
Soshnikov -Kadri - Komarov

most likely how it'll be in a couple years, maybe someone other than Johnson on 2nd LW if he's still developing
 
AuraSphere said:
Matthews - Marner would be together while Nylander would center the second line (or play wing on the second line depending on Stamkos). Nylander will most likely be forced onto the wing for next season if one of bozak/kadri aren't moved

All that was for the future,

JVR - Matthews - Marner
Johnson - Nylander - Brown
Soshnikov -Kadri - Komarov

most likely how it'll be in a couple years, maybe someone other than Johnson on 2nd LW if he's still developing
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I'm really not one to harp on size, but thats an exceptionally undersized top 9 outside matthews and JVR. Maybe we can trade from our enormous wealth of undersized, skilled forwards for a big winger. Nothing wrong with having a couple of our core guys under league average, but you cant ice a team of midgets.
 
TIGERCOOL said:
I'm really not one to harp on size, but thats an exceptionally undersized top 9 outside matthews and JVR. Maybe we can trade from our enormous wealth of undersized, skilled forwards for a big winger. Nothing wrong with having a couple of our core guys under league average, but you cant ice a team of midgets.
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Komarov isn't tall but he's thick. I'd think Kapanen is more likely to get a spot than Johanson, and he'll be average to bigger as he fills out.
 
Auston Matthews - Jonathan Toews
Mitch Marner - Patrick Kane
William Nylander - Claude Giroux
Morgan Rielly - Duncan Keith

:popcorn:
 
supermann_98 said:
That's a decent comparable, but I see some others comparing him more to Corey Locke,
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Having watched Locke a lot there was a ton of difference.

Both are smaller players with great hands and work ethic, I'll agree on that. It about ends there.

Locke was noticably smaller than Marner , but the big difference was skating. Locke was a very poor skater. Small water bug type players and big slow players can thrive in the NHL, but small slow guys will not. Locke had little defensive awareness and was relatively shy for going into the corners. He had elite hands, a massive hockey IQ and was in a system tailor made for maximizing his game at the OHL level, but never was likely to be an NHL player.

Marner has the feet to match his hands.
 
I think Marner is a victim of a "Freaky Friday" type occurrence with Sam Gagner.
If that's the case, we should sign Gagner in the summer.
 
Krnuckfan said:
To leafs fans, where do you see Matthews, Nylander, Marner playing in the top 6? Obviously matthews would be the 1st line center but where do the other 2 slot in?
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Interested in seeing the Big 3 start on 3 different lines, at least until they get some experience in the NHL.

Stamkos - Marner, PAP type of UFA or Radulov if we are lucky
Matthews - JVR, Komarov
Kadri - Nylander, Michalak
Bozak - Brown, Soshnikov

Only issue with this is Nylander has to play winger and having to play with Kadri. As much as I like Kadri, this makes me hope that Lou trades him for a young winger.

Listed Brown and Soshnikov on the 4th, but they'll be competing in camp with Leivo, Holland, Leipsic, Hyman etc.
 
Soshnikov - kadri - komorov
Jvr - Mathews - Marner
Michalak - Nylander - Hyman/leivo/leipsic/Brown
Greening - bozak - holland
 
Briere's a guy I compared him to. If he has the career Danny did, it's a success.
 
Dima Timashov said:
Auston Matthews - Jonathan Toews
Mitch Marner - Patrick Kane
William Nylander - Claude Giroux
Morgan Rielly - Duncan Keith

:popcorn:
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Nylander in style is actually much closer to Kane than Marner is and Marner is much closer to Giroux. Marner has that edge too him, commitment to two-way play and tends to score in close. Kane is more explosive and has a better shot, which is more Willy's game.
 
FrozenJagrt said:
Some fans won't like that, but Danny Briere was so underappreciated. Great peak and real solid in the playoffs
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I personally see more Claude Giroux. But Briere came up during the heard of the clutch and grab era, his career is probably different in today's more free-flowing game/would of broke out much earlier.
 
Dima Timashov said:
Auston Matthews - Jonathan Toews
Mitch Marner - Patrick Kane
William Nylander - Claude Giroux
Morgan Rielly - Duncan Keith

:popcorn:
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I don't see Kane in Marner. I doubt he has the offensive peak of Kane but has a much better defensive game. You'll see Marner played in shutdown/pk roles late in a game I imagine.
 
Dima Timashov said:
Auston Matthews - Jonathan Toews
Mitch Marner - Patrick Kane
William Nylander - Claude Giroux
Morgan Rielly - Duncan Keith

:popcorn:
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93LEAFS said:
Nylander in style is actually much closer to Kane than Marner is and Marner is much closer to Giroux. Marner has that edge too him, commitment to two-way play and tends to score in close. Kane is more explosive and has a better shot, which is more Willy's game.
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I agree with you 93Leafs in that Marner plays like Giroux, although I'm still at a loss for who Nylander plays like, but in limited viewing.

Dima Timashov, I don't agree with the Rielly to Keith comparison. You should also feel incredibly lucky if Reilly turns into a a Duncan Keith, as guys like that just don't come around very often. As far as I'm aware from watching Rielly, he also doesn't have that superhuman ability Keith has in terms of lung capacity and ability to play endless minutes per night. I'm not trying to say Rielly doesn't have the potential to be a Top 10 D-Man in the league, but I wouldn't say it's Keith.
 
dropdeadjoey said:
I agree with you 93Leafs in that Marner plays like Giroux, although I'm still at a loss for who Nylander plays like, but in limited viewing.

Dima Timashov, I don't agree with the Rielly to Keith comparison. You should also feel incredibly lucky if Reilly turns into a a Duncan Keith, as guys like that just don't come around very often. As far as I'm aware from watching Rielly, he also doesn't have that superhuman ability Keith has in terms of lung capacity and ability to play endless minutes per night. I'm not trying to say Rielly doesn't have the potential to be a Top 10 D-Man in the league, but I wouldn't say it's Keith.
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Uhh...in the last month of the season (March 9 to April 9) he had games with these ice times:

28:32, 23:39, 31:14, 27:42, 28:24, 24:32, 24:22, 26:50, 23:38, 21:39, 21:58, 25:36, 26:35, 28:41, 23:28.

So yeah. I have no idea what you meant by that. His fitness is quite impressive. But I understand if you didn't watch the last few months of last season. Some of those games were brutal.
 
Healthy Briere was an amazing player/borderline superstar, if he stayed healthy woulda been something loved those teams in Buffalo when I was younger.

Briere is probably what Marner becomes IMO, but I do think his actual ceiling is higher than that.
 
AuraSphere said:
Matthews - Marner would be together while Nylander would center the second line (or play wing on the second line depending on Stamkos). Nylander will most likely be forced onto the wing for next season if one of bozak/kadri aren't moved

All that was for the future,

JVR - Matthews - Marner
Johnson - Nylander - Brown
Soshnikov -Kadri - Komarov

most likely how it'll be in a couple years, maybe someone other than Johnson on 2nd LW if he's still developing
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Nice guess.
 
Shwaguy said:
Healthy Briere was an amazing player/borderline superstar, if he stayed healthy woulda been something loved those teams in Buffalo when I was younger.

Briere is probably what Marner becomes IMO, but I do think his actual ceiling is higher than that.
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Different players. Marner is 5'11". Briere was about 5 foot 6. Briere did not have the vision Marner has. He had amazing quickness and played a lot behind the net for a guy his size. He wasn't terribly dangerous on the rush.

Totally different players.
 
Alberta Yote said:
I'd like someone to point out the non sarcastic or trolling posts where anyone has said Marner is anything less than a stud prospect? I see some wonder about his strength and that's legit. Other than that I see almost all of HF saying what a fantastic prospect and how skilled he is. Seems to be a bit of paranoia going on.
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Just like Sam Gagner.
 
buttman said:
Different players. Marner is 5'11". Briere was about 5 foot 6. Briere did not have the vision Marner has. He had amazing quickness and played a lot behind the net for a guy his size. He wasn't terribly dangerous on the rush.

Totally different players.
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This doesn't seem right, wasnt he more 5'9? Small yes, but not comically so.
 
Briere was a very good and underappreciated player which I have no problem Marner replicating to some extent.

The only problem is his playstyle is nothing like Briere to anyone who watches him. In terms of current comparable, he plays most like a Giroux.
 
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