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Prospect Info: C/RW Matthew Savoie, 9th Overall, 2022 NHL Draft - Traded to Moose Jaw 1/4/24

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Banking on a draft pick to grow even an inch is pointless, nevermind two. Maybe he grows an inch or so. Maybe he doesn't. It means next to nothing, anyhow. He seems like he has a solid frame based on his weight. The far more likely possibility that he winds up a relatively strong player with a low center of gravity matters a lot more.
 
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There's some studies which are suggesting height itself is not the important attribute, but it's colinear with wingspawn.
 
They took the guy I wanted twice in this draft. I wanted Savoie when we were in the clock at 9 and Kulich when we were on the clock at both 16 and 28. Snuck in an unexpected Ostlund while I waited.
 
jc17 said:
What do you mean?
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He is saying:

1. Wingspan is more important than height (according to studies he has seen).

2. Generally, taller people have greater wingspans and shorter people have lesser wingspans.

3. He didn't say this but it is implied that when you get down to the individual, wingspans can vary a lot. Two 5'9" players can have substantially different wingspans. A 5'9" player can have a greater wingspan than a 6'0" player.

If you look at the NBA, this is talked about all the time, so the importance is well understood, as is the variability of wingspans.
 
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Paxon said:
He is saying:

1. Wingspan is more important than height (according to studies he has seen).

2. Generally, taller people have greater wingspans and shorter people have lesser wingspans.

3. He didn't say this but it is implied that when you get down to the individual, wingspans can vary a lot. Two 5'9" players can have substantially different wingspans. A 5'9" player can have a greater wingspan than a 6'0" player.

If you look at the NBA, this is talked about all the time, so the importance is well understood, as is the variability of wingspans.
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More important than height in what? NHL/hockey performance?

Edit: found this for the NBA and MMA. Seems sport-specific though. The Absurd, Amazing Wingspans of Professional Basketball Players
 
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jc17 said:
More important than height in what? NHL/hockey performance?

Edit: found this for the NBA and MMA. Seems sport-specific though. The Absurd, Amazing Wingspans of Professional Basketball Players
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Well, that I don't know. I just figured how he worded it needed clarification. I'm also curious about the specifics of how wingspan is more beneficial. Certainly I can see how it could be. Wingspan + stick length = your playing radius, essentially, right? Both height and wingspan probably help your ability to use a longer stick effectively. On the other hand, players who are/have shorter/shorter wingspans/shorter sticks can do things in tighter others can't do as effectively, but this is less about height vs. wingspan and more about how everything has its positives and negatives, just as shorter players in basketball can dribble through traffic easier.
 
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jc17 said:
Re-reading the post, I see the confusion. I wasn't talking about junior career production. Hopefully this adjustment clarifies:



I don't know, maybe it's still too wordy. Long story short, some guys who produce well in the NHL scored more than savoie in his DY, while some scored less.
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Thank you for the clarification.


Its still tough to compare him to those players due to the disruption the pandemic caused to his development. How different would his draft year look if he had a normal season in the WHL the year before?
 
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joshjull said:
This is just anti - tall guys with short arms propaganda!
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Zach716 said:
His brother Carter is still 5'9 at 20 years old
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U. Denver website has him at 5'10" and who knows how long ago that was updated.
 
HogtownSabresfan said:
Is it backed up? I bet not.
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Yes, because there is no correlation with why tiny players don't wind up in the league outside of some big meanies who won't let them play. I didn't say concussion - I said contact. There are not many guys who go inside and take the chance of even incidental contact to the face/head. If it isn't something that players develop habitually to avoid the abuse, we'd see more inside scorers than we do. Or are you that new that you haven't noticed that sub 5'10" guys are pretty rare and have to be amazingly talented?
 
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