C Raphael Lavoie (2019, 38th, EDM; claimed by VGK; claimed by EDM)

[cmcneil02]

2G 2A tonight he is getting hot
He’ll be on sportsnet tomorrow as they take on the Charlottetown Islanders.

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

I really like what I am seeing from him in this Sportsnet game this afternoon. Very dangerous.

 

[Thebesthockey]

as a late birthday
if he is in last years draft does he still go 1st round ?

 

[BondraTime]

as a late birthday
if he is in last years draft does he still go 1st round ?

Undoubtedly

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

Probably even top 10 considering how good he looked at the U-18.

Quality snipe for his 2nd of the game late in the 3rd. He is on a tear.

 

[Tube Skates]

I was at the game last night sitting just up from where he shot for that second goal. I couldn’t see it. It was a lazer. Goalie didn’t see it. He didn’t even move. I was waiting to hear it hit the boards. I couldn’t even see it on replay. Came home watched rerun of the game on tv. I still didn’t see the puck until it was in the back of the net.

 

[North Country]

Call me crazy but I still have him in front of Dach.

 

[Tube Skates]

It's so funny here. He plays a good game nationally televised and hardly anybody shows up to comment because there's nothing negative to say.

 

[Our Lady Peace]

Now I ask honestly, what differs Lavoie from a prospect like Julien Gauthier formerly from the Q?

 

[Butch26]

Lavoie can drive the play , had a IQ Skills

Gauthier was dump , a good shooter

 

[kabidjan18]

Now I ask honestly, what differs Lavoie from a prospect like Julien Gauthier formerly from the Q?

I never get these posts. You just listed the one thing they have in common, which I've bolded, and you ask what's different. How even to begin to respond?

 

[Our Lady Peace]

I never get these posts. You just listed the one thing they have in common, which I've bolded, and you ask what's different. How even to begin to respond?

They're from the same league... Which is an obvious tick in the checkbox to start to compare the players...

What I'm looking for between the two is difference in individual talents.

It seems Butch26 had no problem responding.

 

[kabidjan18]

They're from the same league... Which is an obvious tick in the checkbox to start to compare the players...

What I'm looking for between the two is difference in individual talents.

It seems Butch26 had no problem responding.

Ok. What makes him different from Sidney Crosby? What makes him different from Nathan Mackinnon? What makes him different from Angelo Esposito? It's not clear why you asked about these two specifically, and so it's hard to infer your motivation, and without your motivation it's hard to give a pertinent answer other than, simply, "they're different players who just happened to play in the same league." Of course, because the question is so open ended and seemingly arbitrary, it's not hard to give any answer. "One is strictly a winger" could be one answer. "One weighs 25 pounds more" could be another answer, but without a motivation for your comparison, any comparison given would be akin to comparing any other two players, whilst missing your potential concerns.

 

[Our Lady Peace]

Ok. What makes him different from Sidney Crosby? What makes him different from Nathan Mackinnon? What makes him different from Angelo Esposito? It's not clear why you asked about these two specifically, and so it's hard to infer your motivation, and without your motivation it's hard to give a pertinent answer other than, simply, "they're different players who just happened to play in the same league." Of course, because the question is so open ended and seemingly arbitrary, it's not hard to give any answer. "One is strictly a winger" could be one answer. "One weighs 25 pounds more" could be another answer, but without a motivation for your comparison, any comparison given would be akin to comparing any other two players, whilst missing your potential concerns.

Well, if you read through any prospect forum on here, the assumption is that when one asks a question to the affiliation of mine, they're looking for comparison in talent level and nature. If it so happens that they presumably left vague details or lack thereof, well, there's been far less coherent posts than mine.

Just don't let it vexate you, honestly.

 

[Hfbsux]

Ok. What makes him different from Sidney Crosby? What makes him different from Nathan Mackinnon? What makes him different from Angelo Esposito? It's not clear why you asked about these two specifically, and so it's hard to infer your motivation, and without your motivation it's hard to give a pertinent answer other than, simply, "they're different players who just happened to play in the same league." Of course, because the question is so open ended and seemingly arbitrary, it's not hard to give any answer. "One is strictly a winger" could be one answer. "One weighs 25 pounds more" could be another answer, but without a motivation for your comparison, any comparison given would be akin to comparing any other two players, whilst missing your potential concerns.

Awesome contribution to this post.

Back on topic.. Lavoie is a wild card in my book. If he gets all his skills together he will be a very dangerous player. In my watchings, he is not always involved in the play but when he does, he is exciting to watch.

 

[Tube Skates]

Now I ask honestly, what differs Lavoie from a prospect like Julien Gauthier formerly from the Q?

I watch Lavoie every game and seen a lot of Gauthier. I thought hey this is a good question. I went back to Elite Prospects just for a refresher on Gauthier and his profile is the same as what Lavoie should be. Even down to my Rick Nash comparison. But to answer your question I think Lavoie has much better vision and makes much better use of his linemates. I can't remember Gauthier having as much playmaking ability and he surely doesn't have the hands or shot or change of direction. You really can't say much more. Lavoie uses more of the ice and is as good going East/West as North/South. He carries the puck much easier and sometimes exhausted at the end of shifts will still stick handle through traffic end to end. Gauthier was more of a straight line player. Just have to hope that Lavoie gets drafted by a team that develops players better than Carolina. That could end up being the biggest difference when all is said and done.

 

[truthbluth]

Now I ask honestly, what differs Lavoie from a prospect like Julien Gauthier formerly from the Q?

I don’t watch a lot of Q games, but Gauthier had 16 assists in his draft year. Lavoie looks good for 50 at this point.

 

[Thebesthockey]

see comparaison with mantha

 

[Garp]

see comparaison with mantha

From what I've seen, Mantha is a better comparison than Gauthier. I think Lavoie is a Project. He's a late birthday but I would argue that he would have been drafted higher last year than he will be this year because of his down year. The thing is scouts will have to figure out if it's a down year (compared to what we thought he would do) or a development trend.

 

[Tube Skates]

He would have been a 1st rounder last year. He'll go much higher this year because he's a much better hockey player.

 

[Patmac40]

From what I've seen, Mantha is a better comparison than Gauthier. I think Lavoie is a Project. He's a late birthday but I would argue that he would have been drafted higher last year than he will be this year because of his down year. The thing is scouts will have to figure out if it's a down year (compared to what we thought he would do) or a development trend.

I watch him all the time and I'm struggling to figure out how 65 points in 55 games (increasing exponentially on his stats from last year) and how he's looked especially the last month or so can possibly be considered a down year even next to expectations.

Edit: Looking at some of the advanced stats for the Q and Lavoie is 2nd among draft-eligible players in xG and GF% and top 15 in both stats in the league for whatever that's worth.

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

7 goals and 12 points in 6 playoff games so far (although I think he has at least 2 ENG).

 

[Sergei Shirokov]

I dont know about Lavoie being as good as Mantha. Mantha was a goal scoring machine. Lavoie has a hard shot but not as accurate.

 

[cmcneil02]

Raphael Lavoie is absolutely on fire in the Q with 7G 6A | 13P in Round 1 of the playoffs. I think if he does want to be a great NHL player he’s gonna have to strategize a bit differently. He definitely has the speed and the shot but sometimes I feel he uses his size to an advantage too much which is easier to do in a league like the Q but in the NHL it may differ how he plays. Hes also a fairly good physical player as well but plays smart and doesn’t get a whole lot of penalities, he’s also really good at getting in the head of players. What is future has in store is hard to predict but I think he’ll be good. Also if Lavoie and the Mooseheads are strong in the M-Cup I think his draft stock could better. Only one way to find out! Wait.

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

Raphael Lavoie is absolutely on fire in the Q with 7G 6A | 13P in Round 1 of the playoffs. I think if he does want to be a great NHL player he’s gonna have to strategize a bit differently. He definitely has the speed and the shot but sometimes I feel he uses his size to an advantage too much which is easier to do in a league like the Q but in the NHL it may differ how he plays. Hes also a fairly good physical player as well but plays smart and doesn’t get a whole lot of penalities, he’s also really good at getting in the head of players. What is future has in store is hard to predict but I think he’ll be good. Also if Lavoie and the Mooseheads are strong in the M-Cup I think his draft stock could better. Only one way to find out! Wait.

He reminds me of Josh Anderson. He's going to be a good one.