C Quinton Byfield (2020, 2nd, LAK) part IV

[Gold Standard]

Nice angle of Cooley’s benching-worthy turnover there too. Slick patience by QB!

That was almost like some Bedard-McTavish magic World Juniors style.

 

[Fat Elvis]

Lol, you dug up a year old post because of a 17 game sample size? In which Byfield still didn’t even hit 1.0 point/game? You realize bottom-six guys have stretches as good or better than Byfield’s last 17 games every single season, right? We’ll see how things play out. For now the sample size is too small to draw any conclusions from, other than that he’s finally playing decent.

Also, you couldn’t wait more than 17 games to start gloating, how do you not see the irony in your post? lmao

Let’s revisit this at the end of the season.

What you're really saying is that you're not watching his games, just stat gazing? I recommend anyone who has doubts on QB to watch a stretch of games(not just one).

Good luck on that hill though.

 

[wetcoast]

Byfield is one of the many reasons the Kings are my sleeper SC team this year, kind of built like Vegas.

 

[fsanford]

Lol, you dug up a year old post because of a 17 game sample size? In which Byfield still didn’t even hit 1.0 point/game? You realize bottom-six guys have stretches as good or better than Byfield’s last 17 games every single season, right? We’ll see how things play out. For now the sample size is too small to draw any conclusions from, other than that he’s finally playing decent.

Also, you couldn’t wait more than 17 games to start gloating, how do you not see the irony in your post? lmao

Let’s revisit this at the end of the season.

Not gloating just pointing out how people me included bury guys too soon. Some guys can admit they are wrong.

Others are too stubborn to admit it and start throwing out crazy comparisons.

 

[ponder]

Not gloating just pointing out how people me included bury guys too soon. Some guys can admit they are wrong.

Others are too stubborn to admit it and start throwing out crazy comparisons.

Hah, I will gloat! I'm wrong about prospects so often, gotta gloat a bit when I'm right

With Byfield, he was developing really well in the AHL, but ppl were stuck on old criticisms like "generates too much of his offence off the rush, weak cycle player", even though he'd clearly developed into an excellent cycle player for anyone actually watching any of his AHL games.

Called it!

Value of: - Quinton Byfield

It took tage thompson until his D+5 year to show any productivity Can we leave facts out of this discussion please? The point is to get Byfield for pennies to declare a trade steal

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C Quinton Byfield (2020, 2nd, LAK) part IV

Id have to agree with you. especially for European players dont they always say have to get used to the North American game? There for the AHL would be the highest level of hockey thats closest to the NHL rink size right? So wouldnt that obviously make the AHL the 2nd best league in the world? I...

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[Lt Dan]

Hah, I will gloat! I'm wrong about prospects so often, gotta gloat a bit when I'm right

With Byfield, he was developing really well in the AHL, but ppl were stuck on old criticisms like "generates too much of his offence off the rush, weak cycle player", even though he'd clearly developed into an excellent cycle player for anyone actually watching any of his AHL games.

Called it!

Value of: - Quinton Byfield

It took tage thompson until his D+5 year to show any productivity Can we leave facts out of this discussion please? The point is to get Byfield for pennies to declare a trade steal

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C Quinton Byfield (2020, 2nd, LAK) part IV

Id have to agree with you. especially for European players dont they always say have to get used to the North American game? There for the AHL would be the highest level of hockey thats closest to the NHL rink size right? So wouldnt that obviously make the AHL the 2nd best league in the world? I...

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You should take yourself out on a date.

I have a feeling that you will get lucky.......

 

[King'sPawn]

With Byfield, he was developing really well in the AHL, but ppl were stuck on old criticisms like "generates too much of his offence off the rush, weak cycle player", even though he'd clearly developed into an excellent cycle player for anyone actually watching any of his AHL games.

I think this is one of the dumbest criticisms of any junior player. I don't have the stats, but I'm very sure most goals in junior are either "off the rush" or during a powerplay, which is pretty much the only time cycles regularly happen.

 

[ORRFForever]

Called it!

 

[Nasti]

So far, he’s improved every season and there’s no reason to believe he won’t get better. He’s been one of the Kings’ best players all season. All you have to do is watch the games to see how he’s starting to dominate when the puck gets in deep.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

So far, he’s improved every season and there’s no reason to believe he won’t get better. He’s been one of the Kings’ best players all season. All you have to do is watch the games to see how he’s starting to dominate when the puck gets in deep.

For all the talk about his 'rush game' and 'low IQ' and 'weak on the cycle' his best work in the NHL has been knocking down pucks in the ozone, forechecking, and taking the game over from the blue line in. His speed agility and size is already nearly unstoppable and he's barely getting comfortable with it. THOSE scouting reports aged TERRIBLY.

The guy was already a phenom beyond his age in the Dzone, too.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

For all my criticisms of QB, “no hockey IQ” was never one I understood.

 

[Plastic Joseph]

So far, he’s improved every season and there’s no reason to believe he won’t get better. He’s been one of the Kings’ best players all season. All you have to do is watch the games to see how he’s starting to dominate when the puck gets in deep.

Don't worry people will soon enough have to admit he is something special. The "small game sample size" argument is always the first thing haters go to when a prospect finally breaks out.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Don't worry people will soon enough have to admit he is something special. The "small game sample size" argument is always the first thing haters go to when a prospect finally breaks out.

All the indicators of production-to-come were there last year too, and anyone watching saw a guy on the verge, if anything it was shocking he wASNT getting the points. Now, his play has taken a step even further, AND the production is there, so it's not like a random spurt of accidental assists...so I'll let people hang onto the 'small sample size' thing for as long as they're comfortable because the rest of us know that is the next critique to time out.

He is THE play driver on a line with a 40 goal scorer and a hall of fame two way center. I'm glad that day is finally here. Just have to see what kind of production he can arrive at because PPG is essentially already here and he is, as of last game, finally on PP1.

 

[nbwingsfan]

1. Name a bottom-6 guy who averages 1.0 points/game over a 17-game stretch.

2. Plenty of top-six players don't average a point-per-game, either over a season or over 17 games. Kopitar isn't scoring at that clip. Is he not a top-six player as well?

Not disagreeing Byfield has looked greatly improved, but Frank Vatrano has 12G/17pts in 18 games so far.

That’s your bottom 6 guy you were asking for

 

[bland]

Not disagreeing Byfield has looked greatly improved, but Frank Vatrano has 12G/17pts in 18 games so far.

That’s your bottom 6 guy you were asking for

Except Vatrano isn't playing in the bottom 6.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Except Vatrano isn't playing in the bottom 6.

Either is Byfield? I don’t think that was his point, just that random average at best players have streaks like this at times.

Difference is Byfield likely ends up a much better player

 

[Nasti]

Either is Byfield? I don’t think that was his point, just that random average at best players have streaks like this at times.

Difference is Byfield likely ends up a much better player

If you watched him play every night you wouldn‘t be brining up random average players. He’s the best forward on many nights on a team with the fourth best points percentage in the league.

 

[nbwingsfan]

If you watched him play every night you wouldn‘t be brining up random average players. He’s the best forward on many nights on a team with the fourth best points percentage in the league.

I didn’t bring up anything other than respond to the guy who said there’s never random bottom 6 player who goes on a tear.

It happens quite often. Never once said Vatrano= Byfield

 

[BoardsofCanada]

I've watched bits of pieces of Byfield this season and every time, I've come away thinking he looks good. So I am not seeing what other posters are seeing. He's faster than I thought he would be and has good hands. Give him time to adjust. The points will start coming.

May 6th 2022. LOL I knew he'd get there.

 

[Ghetty Green]

For all my criticisms of QB, “no hockey IQ” was never one I understood.

It made perfect sense

 

[King'sPawn]

Either is Byfield? I don’t think that was his point, just that random average at best players have streaks like this at times.

Difference is Byfield likely ends up a much better player

No, the player I was responding to said Byfield was a bottom-6 player at best, and said that a 17-game sample size is meaningless.

So if Byfield's a bottom-six guy at best, it should be pretty easy to name bottom-six players who score at that clip.

It's not. That was the point.

 

[nbwingsfan]

No, the player I was responding to said Byfield was a bottom-6 player at best, and said that a 17-game sample size is meaningless.

So if Byfield's a bottom-six guy at best, it should be pretty easy to name bottom-six players who score at that clip.

It's not. That was the point.

You asked to name a single bottom 6 player who scores at that clip. I gave you one.

 

[JTeller97]

You asked to name a single bottom 6 player who scores at that clip. I gave you one.

Vatrano is averaging 18:30 minutes a night...the most by a ducks forward

 

[nbwingsfan]

Vatrano is averaging 18:30 minutes a night...the most by a ducks forward

Holy moly the lack of reading comprehension here.

Yes he’s playing a lot of minutes this season, just like Byfield. Doesn’t mean Vatrano is an actual top 6 player and will finish producing anywhere close to what he is now.

Kubalik did the same thing early on with the Wings last season.

 

[Chazz Reinhold]

Holy moly the lack of reading comprehension here.

Yes he’s playing a lot of minutes this season, just like Byfield. Doesn’t mean Vatrano is an actual top 6 player and will finish producing anywhere close to what he is now.

Kubalik did the same thing early on with the Wings last season.

Byfield is playing 14:53 a game this year (i.e., over three-and-a-half minutes less than Vatrano). Your inane comparison to Vatrano doesn't even make sense on its own terms. Probably not shocking though when your shtick for the past several years has been to discredit Byfield as much as possible.