After a relatively slow start in October, Marner has 27 points in 10 games during November. A pace of 1.67 in October and 2.7 in November. If he can maintain around 2.25 the rest of the way I could see him breaking 130 even including missing WJC but realistically probably looking at around 120
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Komarov - Kadri - Brown
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There is no way the Preds or the Ducks do that.
Besides, that defense and goalie combo would get eaten alive in the playoffs, not to mention 6 of the top 9 are rookies...
Holymakinaw
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So what are we to make of the fact that Marner is not playing center? Obviously the line is pretty much unstoppable, but in the end wouldn't the team be better off spreading the offense throughout the line up? I mean this one line has accounted for almost 50% of the Knights goals. Also Mark Hunter made it clear that the Leafs wanted to groom Marner as a center. What happened to that? Clearly Marner can play both positions well, and he is getting stronger at faceoffs as well. I think at some point after the WJC Marner will be moved back to center.
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I think they are hesitant to change what is working so well. Why change the lines when that line is so dominant and potentially one of the top lines in the OHL ever?
Combination of things, this line is playing insane, and there either trying to increase Cliff Pu's trade value or get him more reps so he can be key in a memorial cup run. London really needs that 2nd line ready for when they lose their 1st line to the WJC. Possibly they break the line up after that.
That's what I'm thinking. After the WJC Marner will be back at center. Yes the line is playing incredibly well, but to make a legitimate run at the Memorial Cup the scoring must be spread out more. Problem is that Marner and Dvorak complement each other so well, but I'm sure all wingers are anxious to get a chance to play with Marner.
Holymakinaw
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They'll try him out there some more, I'm sure. But I'd have ZERO problem with Mitch Marner coming into the NHL as a winger one day. If he keeps doing what he's doing, he'll be a very special player to watch. I think he has the potential to become an elite NHLer one day. And it that comes while on William Nylander's wing.......fine by me.
Atomos2
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True, and I believe Marner will play wing in the WJC alongside Strome. The only thing that bothers me is Hunter's comments that the Leafs want to groom Marner to be a center.
Marner has taken the 4th most faceoffs for the Knights
Dvorak 444
MacDonald 322
Pu 248
Marner 126
Plus the way he plays the game is like a centre. He patrols the high slot in the offensive zone. He does play as a winger in the D zone if he is late to get back but when he's the first one back he plays the centre position in the D zone. I just think his natural game is that of a centreman. He may turn out to be a winger in the nhl, but he will be a responsible one if he does. He just doesn't take all the faceoffs.
Imo he should watch tape of Gilmour on the faceoffs. You need strength and aggressiveness for faceoffs. He has the deft/quick hands and timing already.
Luckily faceoffs are something that can be learned and improved by coaching and strength.
Dvorak 444
MacDonald 322
Pu 248
Marner 126
Plus the way he plays the game is like a centre. He patrols the high slot in the offensive zone. He does play as a winger in the D zone if he is late to get back but when he's the first one back he plays the centre position in the D zone. I just think his natural game is that of a centreman. He may turn out to be a winger in the nhl, but he will be a responsible one if he does. He just doesn't take all the faceoffs.
Imo he should watch tape of Gilmour on the faceoffs. You need strength and aggressiveness for faceoffs. He has the deft/quick hands and timing already.
Luckily faceoffs are something that can be learned and improved by coaching and strength.
To me he's a centerman, like was said he plays like one, he has great vision, speed, his passing is incredible, he reads the play well. He's taken a lot of face-offs so far this year as well. He may be a winger at the moment but I think his game will translate eventually at centre.
Either Marner plays on Nylander's wing or Marner becomes an elite 2nd line centerman down the line. These two kids are the foundation down the middle for this franchise for the next 10 years+
Either Marner plays on Nylander's wing or Marner becomes an elite 2nd line centerman down the line. These two kids are the foundation down the middle for this franchise for the next 10 years+
More like Kadri could be a winger for one of them. Marner will be the better C down the road, Kadri really struggles in the dot.
Hero
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I'm fine with Marner/Nylander down the middle eventually, even if neither are big.
But how amazing would it be to draft Matthews and do Matthews/Marner or Nylander with the other on the 1st line wing.
But how amazing would it be to draft Matthews and do Matthews/Marner or Nylander with the other on the 1st line wing.
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"Think for yourself.....by believing what I tell you." Rock-solid logic to be sure.
? Its a stat. It's black and white.
He said Kadri is bad at faceoffs. I pointed out that he was wrong and shouldn't listen to old tired narratives.
Rock solid logic indeed.
? Its a stat. It's black and white.
He said Kadri is bad at faceoffs. I pointed out that he was wrong and shouldn't listen to old tired narratives.
Rock solid logic indeed.
he's been better I'll give you that, I'm not listening to old tired narratives. 50% isn't something to jump up and down about. Winning half your draws means half the time you lose...meaning half the time the puck stays in our end. If your happy with that then go ahead but for a #1 C I expect more. Like I said though I think Marner has the hand quickness and the ability to become a #1 C (he'll be our #2 with Nylander in the way
) He has all the ability in the world and just has to be "coached up" on winning draws from the coaching staff.
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he's been better I'll give you that, I'm not listening to old tired narratives. 50% isn't something to jump up and down about. Winning half your draws means half the time you lose...meaning half the time the puck stays in our end. If your happy with that then go ahead but for a #1 C I expect more. Like I said though I think Marner has the hand quickness and the ability to become a #1 C (he'll be our #2 with Nylander in the way
Faceoffs aren't nearly as important as the MSM says they are. Lots of stats to back that up.
BTW, 51.5% is really solid for faceoffs. Lots of so called #1 C's are well below him.
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