C Mathew Barzal - Seattle Thunderbirds, WHL (2015, 16th, NYI) II

Nalyd Psycho · Oct 25, 2016

blinkman360 said:
Does he have a NMC that I don't know about? Because if he doesn't and you leave him unprotected, there is a 0% chance of him being claimed with that contract.

He's a good player. No denying it. But, I'd rather have Tavares, Strome, Cizikas, Hamonic, Leddy, and CdH. Maybe even Pulock, although I suppose that could change depending on how things go this year.

Unless you can find a way to get rid of Boychuk, IMO it's bye-bye Brock, unfortunately.

He won't be eexposed, he will be traded, maybe soon if they wish to keep Barzal as a replacement.

SLAPSHOT723 · Oct 25, 2016

Nalyd Psycho said:
He won't be eexposed, he will be traded, maybe soon if they wish to keep Barzal as a replacement.

Brock will be traded? I don't know, at this point I'm protecting him over Strome. He's easier to replace with Barzal than Brock is.

Nalyd Psycho · Oct 25, 2016

SLAPSHOT723 said:
Brock will be traded? I don't know, at this point I'm protecting him over Strome. He's easier to replace with Barzal than Brock is.

What I mean is the Isles will make trades rather than expose players like Strome and Nelson.

Abe Vukota · Oct 25, 2016

SLAPSHOT723 said:
Brock will be traded? I don't know, at this point I'm protecting him over Strome. He's easier to replace with Barzal than Brock is.

Nelson is a 25 year old who scored 20 goals in his first full season, then 26 in his second. You could make a pretty sound argument that he's been poorly managed by his coach. I think he's wildly, bizarrely underrated. I agree that Barzal could quite easily replace Strome, but not Nelson.

With Kulemin out, I'm hoping we see Barzal. We know what we have with guys like Prince and Quine, and that's no insult to them. Barzal has the capability to be more.

SLAPSHOT723 · Oct 26, 2016

Abe Vukota said:
Nelson is a 25 year old who scored 20 goals in his first full season, then 26 in his second. You could make a pretty sound argument that he's been poorly managed by his coach. I think he's wildly, bizarrely underrated. I agree that Barzal could quite easily replace Strome, but not Nelson.

With Kulemin out, I'm hoping we see Barzal. We know what we have with guys like Prince and Quine, and that's no insult to them. Barzal has the capability to be more.

Part of his struggles I'm sure is coaching, but he has to be at fault for some of it as well. He needs to play consistently for 82 games, no more 7 goals in 7 games then 1 in 20.

I'd love to see him at LW regularly or he has to really improve on faceoffs.

xIsle · Oct 26, 2016

With Kulemin possibly out, there is a good chance that Barzal play tonight against the Habs.

Skinnyjimmy08 · Oct 26, 2016

He needsto go back. Definately isnt ready. Really watched him tonight and he just is not ready. Plain and simple

SLAPSHOT723 · Oct 27, 2016

Skinnyjimmy08 said:
He needsto go back. Definately isnt ready. Really watched him tonight and he just is not ready. Plain and simple

He's not going to look good when he plays every 6-7 games. If he gets in a groove he'll look a lot better. But I wouldn't mind sending him back.

Skinnyjimmy08 · Oct 27, 2016

SLAPSHOT723 said:
He's not going to look good when he plays every 6-7 games. If he gets in a groove he'll look a lot better. But I wouldn't mind sending him back.

exactly.. pathetic they've kept him around to do just that

Whitesnake · Oct 27, 2016

Time to go down Matt. But you will be a very very good player down the road.

SLAPSHOT723 · Oct 27, 2016

Skinnyjimmy08 said:
exactly.. pathetic they've kept him around to do just that

He's also here one year too early. We have a logjam at center. If he does get sent back, there's no doubt he'll be on the team next year. One of Lee, Strome, or Nelson will get claimed. When one of them does, there will be a spot for Barzal (Nelson would move to LW if Lee or Strome is claimed).

jbron · Oct 27, 2016

Best thing for Barzal would be to go back to Seattle and get to play
every game. If he stays with the Isles he just wont see enough playing time.

93LEAFS · Oct 27, 2016

Back to being scratched, even with Kulemin out.

Tripod · Oct 27, 2016

jbron said:
Best thing for Barzal would be to go back to Seattle and get to play
every game. If he stays with the Isles he just wont see enough playing time.

Maybe they keep him up then let him go to WJC....then back to Jr's after that.

Skinnyjimmy08 · Oct 27, 2016

Tripod said:
Maybe they keep him up then let him go to WJC....then back to Jr's after that.

Haha what a nightmare that would be.. Snow would be out of his mind to do that

LordNeverLose · Oct 28, 2016

93LEAFS said:
Back to being scratched, even with Kulemin out.

Prince back though.

Still, if you'd prefer to play Quine over him (and I agree with that decision) why keep him around?

The Winter Soldier · Oct 28, 2016

Barzal will be sent down. It looks like a foregone conclusion with Capuano as coach of the team. The best thing for him now is to go back to Seattle and then lead Team Canada to a medal at the WJC. Then maybe he will earn a late season call up if Seattle is ousted from the playoffs.

Baemon Severson* · Oct 28, 2016

Must be tough for him to see guys like Konecny, Zacha, and Connor get big roles for their teams while he is stuck in the dog house. Rooting for him. I wanted NJ to take him over Zacha (but now couldn't be happier with PZ)

seafoam · Oct 28, 2016

SMantzas said:
Must be tough for him to see guys like Konecny, Zacha, and Connor get big roles for their teams while he is stuck in the dog house. Rooting for him. I wanted NJ to take him over Zacha (but now couldn't be happier with PZ)

NYI is in Cup mode now (even though it make not look like it :laugh:

) while PHI, NJ, and WPG are all just looking to make it into the playoffs is how I look at it. Tougher rosters to crack and it's not really smart for a team looking to win playoff rounds to put any legitimate responsibility on a rookie.

VoidCreature · Oct 28, 2016

seafoam said:
NYI is in Cup mode now (even though it make not look like it ) while PHI, NJ, and WPG are all just looking to make it into the playoffs is how I look at it. Tougher rosters to crack and it's not really smart for a team looking to win playoff rounds to put any legitimate responsibility on a rookie.

And yet Beauvillier has had no problem making an impact. I'd be worried if I were an Isles fan.

WhiskeyYerTheDevils · Oct 28, 2016

VoidCreature said:
And yet Beauvillier has had no problem making an impact. I'd be worried if I were an Isles fan.

Beauvillier is a more versatile player and is being used as a winger.

Nothing for Isles fans to be worried about. Kid is going to be a star.

SLAPSHOT723 · Oct 28, 2016

WhiskeyYourTheDevils said:
Beauvillier is a more versatile player and is being used as a winger.

Nothing for Isles fans to be worried about. Kid is going to be a star.

I don't think we're worried about him for the future, we're worried about him right now. Most of us are pretty confident that he'll be a big part of our future.

seafoam · Oct 28, 2016

VoidCreature said:
And yet Beauvillier has had no problem making an impact. I'd be worried if I were an Isles fan.

Beauvillier is averaging less than 10 minutes a game if I remember correctly. Not exactly a key role.

NHL Dude 120 · Oct 29, 2016

I feel like with young kids they need as much playing time so if he isnt getting 12-15 minutes isnt it worth it to send them down???

Skinnyjimmy08 · Oct 30, 2016

I dont see him ever getting in a game. If anything i thought forsure he may dress today VS the Leafs but once again he isnt.

I am speechless what to say about this situation. Completely bizzare

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