C/LW Jonathan Drouin (2013, 3rd, TBL) III

[sjci]

Ok, a lot of people need to calm down with the vitriol right now. I have two questions though that I'm interested in hearing a response to:

1) Halifax said Drouin would be reevaluated today. If it comes back that he only has minor symptoms or none anymore, do you still believe Erne should be suspended for the rest of his life? I kid about that last part, but a lot of people need to tone it down with how long they think the hit was suspension worthy.

2) Is there some rule in for the WJ that state a player can't play, or has to wait a period of time if they have a concussion? I ask because it's weird when they say he has "concussion-like" symptoms and won't just say he has a concussion if he has one. Too have "symptoms" is a cheap way of wording. You either have one or you don't. I understand he's being evaluated again today, so maybe that status will hopefully be cleared up.

I've already stated how I viewed the hit, but since this is HF and people will think I have an US bias for Erne, which is not the truth at all, just called it like I saw it. At worst it's a few games suspension. If it turns out he's fine or no longer has symptoms, I really don't see how they could give him more than a game or two.

Uhhh...

Mikael Lalancette @MLalancette: De plus en plus convaincu qu'Adam Erne ne sera pas suspendu pour sa mise en échec par derrière sur Jonathan Drouin. #Remparts

Belief is that Erne won't get suspended... What the fluff?

Hopefully this will convince people to put their pitchforks down because it really wasn't as heinous as they are trying to make it out to be. At worst, I'd give him maybe 1, 2 games max. But I have a feeling this is just going to make people angrier.

 

[OttawaRoughRiderFan*]

do you still believe Erne should be suspended for the rest of his life?.

Yes.

...US bias for Erne...

Yes.

1, 2 games max. But I have a feeling this is just going to make people angrier.

Yes.

 

[lavoy]

Uhhh...

Mikael Lalancette @MLalancette: De plus en plus convaincu qu'Adam Erne ne sera pas suspendu pour sa mise en échec par derrière sur Jonathan Drouin. #Remparts

Belief is that Erne won't get suspended... What the fluff?

Remember what team we're dealing with here lol... After the farce that was the 2012 playoffs I am not surprised by anything the Q says or does.

Still can't believe his comments though... went to bed, thought it was emotion talking in my posts, but nope, still stupid lol. I'm also not surprised he said it either... nevermind the "he's a headcase" "screws loose" comments being thrown around here, this kid learned two years of junior hockey under one of the biggest clowns and sideshows in the CHL... Paddy Roy of course... He learned from a coach who turned himself into a sideshow and his clownish coaching antics perhaps carry on throughout his players... Look at (Erne) Donnelly, Mikael Tam and to a lesser extent Fred Roy, just in the past few years show examples of players who hurt their team and play very undisciplined.... Not to mention Erne was suspended "by the team" last year as well.

I'm surprised I am the first one to bring up Paddy, blame it all on him .

 

[theIceWookie]

They could view it as no remorse for the hit. It makes me think Erne hit him intentionally. I mean they were teammates in Tampa and at the rookie camps so one would think he would at least apologize and wish Drouin a speedy recovery.

The hit wasn't really an awful hit. Hits like those happen on occasion. It wasn't the world's most gruesome hit.

But those comments are concerning.

 

[sabresfan129103]

The hit didn't seem that bad. Hope Drouin is ok.

 

[Jacob]

Yeah, he'll see a lot worse than that in the NHL.

 

[13 others]

Yeah, he'll see a lot worse than that in the NHL.

Thats still a penalty in the NHL.

 

[HotPaquette]

With the amount of blow back is this thread im surprised Drouin is still alive with the way you guys made the hit out to be.

 

[SuperUnknown]

Well, the point of supplementary discipline is to correct the behaviour of players who step out of line (hence why "repeat offenders" get escalating degrees of punishment). If he doesn't think he stepped out of line on this occasion, as his comments suggest, then what else can you do but tack on a few extra games than you might have initially considered and hope THAT makes it sink home? A "slap on the wrist" to someone who publicly expresses the belief that they did nothing wrong does little to curb the possibility that he'll do it again, and somewhat undermines the teaching aspect of supplementary discipline as well.

Hockey is a physical game with hits. You always play hard and hit hard (imo), that's the way you play hockey. Most of the times, the hits end up with nothing bad, but sometimes they do. Sometimes you get suspended while the hit you gave is a dime a dozen and sometimes you step out of line, nothing happens and you don't get suspended. As long as your intention on the ice isn't to go and injure other players, then whatever happens (suspension or not) is just a product of player hard hockey, nothing else.

As to whether he was sorry for Drouin or not, he might have said he was and it just didn't make the papers. They put one of the quotes he said in that article, but there's no saying he may have said more than that.

 

[Stammer Time*]

Yes.



Yes.



Yes.

It's funny you of all people are accusing people of bias for their country.

 

[OttawaRoughRiderFan*]

It's funny you of all people are accusing people of bias for their country.

Yes.

 

[bruinsfan46]

Erne received a five and a game for a hit from behind in the playoffs last season and then a three game suspension for a headshot on Sobotka in the preseason. Lots of cheap shots in not many months, starting to seem like a reckless, predatory player. Hopefully he smartens up because he has talent, I fully expect and hope he's suspended for the World Juniors this year.

 

[ponder]

It wasn't an very hard hit, but it was 100% from behind and the exact wrong distance from the boards. As a player it's drilled into you not to make this hit, but he did it anyways. I think it was more stupid than malicious, but I'd still like to see Erne get a few games.

I wish refs would take a little longer to break up fights like this, though. The best punishment here would have simply been to let Weegar destroy Erne for 5 seconds or so.

 

[Alivesi]

With the amount of blow back is this thread im surprised Drouin is still alive with the way you guys made the hit out to be.

Yeah didn't look at the hit, and thought he was paralyzed or something....

 

[CanadienShark]

I'm American. I'm a Bolts fan. I wouldn't mind if Erne missed the WJC if Drouin did. The comments alone are enough for me to want Yzerman to forget to sign Erne to an ELC. **** him. Comments are worse than the play really.

Agreed. I see an Erne trade coming up, quite honestly. There's bound to be bad blood after this. I truly hope that Drouin recovers, as he's my favourite prospect in the world. So undoubtedly I'm biased, but it seemed like a bad hit.

 

[bruinsfan46]

The idea that Tampa should trade Erne because of this I strongly disagree with, Drouin will get over it I have to think.

 

[Crosbyfan]

If he honestly thought Drouin dove he should not play hockey.

Stupidity to that degree cannot be fixed.

 

[BobDobolina]

Uhhh...

Mikael Lalancette @MLalancette: De plus en plus convaincu qu'Adam Erne ne sera pas suspendu pour sa mise en échec par derrière sur Jonathan Drouin. #Remparts

If you forget the name on their backs, one can see the hit itself isn't that bad at all. Looks like the Q agrees unlike the pitchfork waving crowd here.

 

[Five Alarm Fire]

Yeah, he'll see a lot worse than that in the NHL.

Players are smarter in the NHL and have much more restraint than teenagers. Erne felt the need to get back at Drouin after being chirped the play before.

He would have been pinned against the boards in the NHL on that play.

 

[Patmac40]

If you forget the name on their backs, one can see the hit itself isn't that bad at all. Looks like the Q agrees unlike the pitchfork waving crowd here.

It's still a hit from behind on a defenseless player who got injured on the play. Pretty certain that's still suspend-able.

 

[Stoneberg]

Players are smarter in the NHL and have much more restraint than teenagers. Erne felt the need to get back at Drouin after being chirped the play before.

He would have been pinned against the boards in the NHL on that play.

Yup, folks who weren't at the game (or don't pay attention to stuff between the whistles) wouldn't get the fact that Erne was pissed/annoyed at and seemed looking for an opportunity to go after Drouin. That's what makes it a dirty play to me (aside from seeing numbers the whole time he was approaching I guess).

I don't know that it was malicious, but he was definitely looking to lay a good one on Jo, and too stupid to realize that this was a dangerous time to do it. I'd be more worried about Erne's character than anything else at this point...but I guess that's why he slipped to the 2nd round to begin with.

 

[Alerion]

I know I'm biased and pissed but:

A) It was a hit from behind which caused Drouin to go into the boards with his head bearing the brunt of the contact.
B) It was delivered directly in the numbers, squarely to the back, and Drouin didn't turn toward the boards at the last second.
C) Erne's post-game comments showed no remorse whatsoever. He went even farther and said Drouin dove.
D) Erne has a prior history of targeting the head and is known to have attitude problems.
E) Like it or not, the hit was delivered on a star player and that carries weight when it comes to decision-making.

He's going to get a sizeable suspension for this hit, which is definitely worsened by his history and his post-game comments.

 

[Crosbyfan]

If you forget the name on their backs, one can see the hit itself isn't that bad at all. Looks like the Q agrees unlike the pitchfork waving crowd here.

Yeah one...you. Others can see a dangerous hit regardless of the names or level of hockey.

I would be embarrassed for Erne. Maybe it was wishful thinking when he called it a dive, but if he maintains that after seeing the replay there is no place for him in the game.

 

[BiggestLeafsFanEVER*]

With the amount of blow back is this thread im surprised Drouin is still alive with the way you guys made the hit out to be.

It's a pretty cheap shot and deserves some sort of suspension but I agree people are a bit over the top in the thread, acting like their dog died or something.

 

[SergeConstantin]

I know I'm biased and pissed but:

A) It was a hit from behind which caused Drouin to go into the boards with his head bearing the brunt of the contact.
B) It was delivered directly in the numbers, squarely to the back, and Drouin didn't turn toward the boards at the last second.
C) Erne's post-game comments showed no remorse whatsoever. He went even farther and said Drouin dove.
D) Erne has a prior history of targeting the head and is known to have attitude problems.
E) Like it or not, the hit was delivered on a star player and that carries weight when it comes to decision-making.

He's going to get a sizeable suspension for this hit, which is definitely worsened by his history and his post-game comments.

Which history?