C/LW Jonathan Drouin (2013, 3rd, TBL) III

[bebl]

What a cheapshot! I really hope Erne gets like +10 games.

 

[Macman]

In my opinion yes it does. The play isn't vicious or that bad by any means, just a hockey play gone wrong. I really doubt Erne thought Drouin would go flying into the boards like that after a push that isn't even all that hard.

I get that people are all emotional right now and that's fine considering who got hit. Just saying the hit isn't all that bad in my opinion.

A hockey play gone wrong is when a guy turns at the last second after the hitter has committed. It's when a shoulder to the chest accidentally becomes a shoulder to the head. It's when there's no intent. It isn't when you see a guy with his back turned from 10 or 15 feet away and you decide to drill him anyway. Intent vs. non-intent.

 

[BobDobolina]

A hockey play gone wrong is when a guy turns at the last second after the hitter has committed. It's when a shoulder to the chest accidentally becomes a shoulder to the head. It's when there's no intent. It isn't when you see a guy with his back turned from 10 or 15 feet away and you decide to drill him anyway. Intent vs. non-intent.

He didn't drill him, he pushed a guy who then flew like a feather against the glass. It happens.

Not a good play but not vicious by any means. People are overreacting because who was hit and because Drouin is possible injured. If it was some third liner getting hit, I really, really doubt people would be calling for a hefty suspension.

 

[King Mapes]

Quite right. It was a push, didn't look that bad. (I'm not saying it was a clean hit but it was not THAT dirty.) There was clearly no intention to hurt Drouin. Erne was surprised at the outcome of the contact.

Yet, his comments were stupid. He even said he pushed Drouin pretty hard (which on the other hand shows he was honest about it.)

It was a clear hit from behind. Spin it all you want, it was dirty

 

[Loffer]

He pushed Drouin too hard on the boards; a matter of degree. He should have pushed "more gently" and pin him. - Bad play but not that bad (intentional) - lack of awareness, yes.

 

[daver]

He didn't drill him, he pushed a guy who then flew like a feather against the glass. It happens.

Not a good play but not vicious by any means. People are overreacting because who was hit and because Drouin is possible injured. If it was some third liner getting hit, I really, really doubt people would be calling for a hefty suspension.

What's your point? If you are not expecting to get hit from behind, that is how you would tend to fly into the glass hence the need to punish those who make that kind of hit.

I don't see how this isn't a text book hit from behind. There's no "hit gone wrong" element at all.

 

[King Mapes]

He pushed Drouin too hard on the boards; a matter of degree. He should have pushed "more gently" and pin him. - Bad play but not that bad (intentional) - lack of awareness, yes.

BUt a push near the boards from behind to an unexpecting player is still very dangerous. Did he drill him? No. But a push from behind can lead to bad things and Drouins back was turned the entire time. Ernes comments show no remorse saying Drouin dove and embelished (sp?). Says he should have absorbed the hit.. didnt even see him coming

 

[Skip2myBordyloo]

http://metronews.ca/sports/877569/m...rts-drouin-out-with-concussion-like-symptoms/


Is there something mentally wrong with Erne, perhaps?

Clearly an attitude problem it seems, didn't Roy suspend him for a couple games because of attitude last year as well?

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Clearly an attitude problem it seems, didn't Roy suspend him for a couple games because of attitude last year as well?

I am pretty sure it was the captains of the teams that asked Roy for him and Duclair to be sat out and it came out that they were but something got worked out before they missed any games. I could be wrong about the older players on the team going to Roy but it definitely happened in some form.

 

[King Mapes]

Gotta love the interview. "I pushed him pretty hard", then goes on to say he dove.

 

[NS Bluenoser]

Gotta love the interview. "I pushed him pretty hard", then goes on to say he dove.

Yeah that's the strange part, considering his "dive" comments. Drouin's back is to him, a couple feet from the boards, he admits he pushed him pretty hard (Erne is a solid boy too), and Drouin came up with a giant cut on his face from the impact... yet he calls it a dive.

 

[Loffer]

It just shows the guy made a wrong play based on a wrong judgement. He pushed Drouin pretty hard but was surprised that it threw the kid on the boards like a feather.

 

[Love]

Well Erne seems like a real piece of work... The Bolts should just get rid of the guy at this point. He's already burned his bridges with the teams future star player.

 

[OttawaRoughRiderFan*]

the only people I've seen here agree with him have had American flags by their name.

Of course. Stuff like this has been happening since Bob Johnson sent Gary Suter out to get Gretzky in 1991.
Sad that it comes to that. It was a cheap shot. Add his post game comment and give him 10.

Any word on Drouin?

Lots of time before the WJR's. He will be fine.

 

[School of WristShot]

After reading Erne's comments, so much for the thought the hit wasn't premeditated. No remorse whatsoever. No, "I hope he's alright." No, "I didn't mean to do it, it happened so fast." None of the usual comments in circumstances like this. Just "it was a dive." The guy's are future teammates. What a tool.

Gotta love the guy's honesty though

 

[SuperUnknown]

What have Erne's post-game comments anything to do with the discipline he should receive?

 

[Scotianhab]

What have Erne's post-game comments anything to do with the discipline he should receive?

They could view it as no remorse for the hit. It makes me think Erne hit him intentionally. I mean they were teammates in Tampa and at the rookie camps so one would think he would at least apologize and wish Drouin a speedy recovery.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Can't believe Adam Erne's comments. Starting to see why this kid dropped in the draft, and perhaps why his teammates wanted him suspended. Incredible calling that hit a dive.

 

[OttawaRoughRiderFan*]

What have Erne's post-game comments anything to do with the discipline he should receive?

The point is, Erne's just another example of a 2nd round "stud" who, in truth, is nothing but a "bag of hammers" (with IQ to match) and doesn't deserve to be in the game of hockey. Hope he never plays a game in the NHL.

There is a reason his stock fell like it did during his draft year.

 

[AirBriere48]

The point is, Erne's just another example of a 2nd round "stud" who, in truth, is nothing but a "bag of hammers" (with IQ to match) and doesn't deserve to be in the game of hockey. Hope he never plays a game in the NHL.

There is a reason his stock fell like it did during his draft year.

Haha. Some of you guys really need to get a grip. Yikes.

 

[NS Bluenoser]

OK I am a Halifax fan and obviously Drouin fan... but some of these comments about TB cutting Erne loose, and how he should be out of hockey, are a bit crazy lol. It was a dumb play for sure, but hardly the most awful, vicious thing you see in a game typically. He should be suspended for some games for sure though.

 

[Ohashi_Jouzu*]

What have Erne's post-game comments anything to do with the discipline he should receive?

Well, the point of supplementary discipline is to correct the behaviour of players who step out of line (hence why "repeat offenders" get escalating degrees of punishment). If he doesn't think he stepped out of line on this occasion, as his comments suggest, then what else can you do but tack on a few extra games than you might have initially considered and hope THAT makes it sink home? A "slap on the wrist" to someone who publicly expresses the belief that they did nothing wrong does little to curb the possibility that he'll do it again, and somewhat undermines the teaching aspect of supplementary discipline as well.

Sometimes, if you're able to identify a player who needs more "teaching" (see: Raffi Torres, Matt Cooke, etc) than average/"standard", you take the opportunity to give it to them.

 

[OttawaRoughRiderFan*]

Haha. Some of you guys really need to get a grip. Yikes.

Tampa Bay forward Adam Erne has been suspended for three preseason games for delivering an illegal check to the head of St. Louis forward Vladimir Sobotka during a preseason game in Orlando on Wednesday, September 18, the National Hockey League’s Department of Player Safety announced today.

Like they say, "History doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes". As I say, "To hell with him".

 

[Patmac40]

Uhhh...

Mikael Lalancette @MLalancette: De plus en plus convaincu qu'Adam Erne ne sera pas suspendu pour sa mise en échec par derrière sur Jonathan Drouin. #Remparts

Belief is that Erne won't get suspended... What the fluff?

 

[Rabid Ranger]

Of course. Stuff like this has been happening since Bob Johnson sent Gary Suter out to get Gretzky in 1991.
Sad that it comes to that. It was a cheap shot. Add his post game comment and give him 10.

Any word on Drouin?

Lots of time before the WJR's. He will be fine.

Tinfoil hat time I see. Care to cite all of the times since 1991 that USA Hockey has orchestrated the purposeful injuring of a player in order to impact future international competition?