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C Logan Brown - Windsor Spitfires, OHL (2016, 11th, OTT)

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Frk It said:
So height prevents you from being coordinated?

Hanzal and Bjugstad are both 6'6", and I think are both pretty skilled players. Bjugstad handles the puck very, very well.

Mantha, Colborne, and Wheeler are all 6'5" and all seem very skilled to me.

Is the knock on Logan Brown seriously that he is too tall? I guess that's a new one.
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Height to a certain extent can hinder your ability. Not that it's effected those players you mentioned. But it is a reason why most guys over 6'5 play D instead. It's usually more suited to their game. Usually slower but can compensate with their reach. Shorter people do typically have better hand-eye coordination. Not even sure if that's debatable.
 
Man Bear Pig said:
Height to a certain extent can hinder your ability. Not that it's effected those players you mentioned. But it is a reason why most guys over 6'5 play D instead. It's usually more suited to their game. Usually slower but can compensate with their reach. Shorter people do typically have better hand-eye coordination. Not even sure if that's debatable.
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Maybe as a whole, but there are always exceptions to the rule.
 
To believe in this theory that really tall guys can't be good forwards, I need to see a list of non-goons who were 6'5'' and taller, who got drafted and did not pan out.

My guess is it's a small sample size because there just aren't that many guys that size who play hockey to begin with.
 
Marc the Habs Fan said:
To believe in this theory that really tall guys can't be good forwards, I need to see a list of non-goons who were 6'5'' and taller, who got drafted and did not pan out.

My guess is it's a small sample size because there just aren't that many guys that size who play hockey to begin with.
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Actually that would in my opinion have more to do with the fact that guys of that size will be drafted even if they aren't that good hockey players simply due to their size. Another thing is that yeah, 6'6"s might look at basketball as a career option rather than hockey.


Still, Blake Wheeler shows what's possible.
 
Has potential to be an imposing big bodied Center; but also has the same amount of potential to be a Joe Colborne. If he puts in the work, I see a solid number 2 C. If he doesn't he will continually get passed and do a bit of bouncing around in the bottom 6
 
Marc the Habs Fan said:
To believe in this theory that really tall guys can't be good forwards, I need to see a list of non-goons who were 6'5'' and taller, who got drafted and did not pan out.

My guess is it's a small sample size because there just aren't that many guys that size who play hockey to begin with.
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As well, the further back in draft years you go to gather your sample size, the further you'll go into the time when the league was obsessed with size, thus more big guys may have been drafted for the hope that they could put it together, as opposed to guys that possessed a skillset like Brown to complement their size. Old school GMs loved huge guys.
 
Patmac40 said:
Thankfully for Brown he'd still be a great player if he was 5'10"
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I feel like if he was 5'10" he'd be most comparable to Mascherin (not play style just production) this year. 3rd in scoring pace on his team behind some quality 2nd round picks from previous years, roughly similar overall output, both fairly bulky builds (5'9 192 for Mascherin is quite heavy for a little guy I think).

If Brown was 5'10" he'd probably be being picked at 25+, right around Bitten, Mascherin, Abramov, and DeBrincat.

Of that group I'd prefer Bitten for sure over the 5'10" Brown, and probably some of the other guys.
 
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/30-thoughts-remembering-greatness/

6. Some rumblings the Canucks prefer Logan Brown. At this time of year, I refer to the Isiah Thomas rule. As a young reporter, he said to me, “Around the draft, everyone lies.â€

There is a connection, however, that would provide Vancouver good intel on Brown. Logan’s father, Jeff, coached the USHL Indiana Ice when director of amateur scouting Judd Brackett was the Ice’s head scout two years ago.
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ijuka said:
Actually that would in my opinion have more to do with the fact that guys of that size will be drafted even if they aren't that good hockey players simply due to their size. Another thing is that yeah, 6'6"s might look at basketball as a career option rather than hockey.


Still, Blake Wheeler shows what's possible.
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6'6" would be short for a basketball player.
 
KurtG8 said:
No it wouldn't, the Avg is 6' 7" for an NBA player currently
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So that would make him shorter than average. Exactly my point. No advantage to being six foot six in Bball when plenty are bigger and absolutely no reason why he should be a Bbal player.

There are colledge players and 15 year olds that are 7'6" -- now that's a reason to be a basketball player.
 
buttman said:
So that would make him shorter than average. Exactly my point. No advantage to being six foot six in Bball when plenty are bigger and absolutely no reason why he should be a Bbal player.

There are colledge players and 15 year olds that are 7'6" -- now that's a reason to be a basketball player.
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And most 7 footers make pretty terrible all-round basketball players. Just as most skaters who are 6'6 or bigger don't make great hockey players.
 
This thread is so bad right now :laugh:

6'6 guys usually are less coordinated then guys 5'9... Especially at 18. Usually guys at 18 are projects that are 6'6. Brown had a 1.26 PPG average. 1.5 over the last 30. That's production. Not projection like most 6'6 guys. That's high end production. He dominated at the u18s. Anyone that thinks he won't be a good player because of his size hasn't seen him play. Don't believe me? watch Canada/USA u18.

Everyone talks about how good Dubois was at the prospects game, yet no one mentions that Logan Brown was dominant in that game.
 
Man Bear Pig said:
And most 7 footers make pretty terrible all-round basketball players. Just as most skaters who are 6'6 or bigger don't make great hockey players.
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They lack quickness of the smaller guys for sure. My point was there is no advantage to being six foot six in the NBA.
 
snipetype said:
This thread is so bad right now :laugh:

6'6 guys usually are less coordinated then guys 5'9... Especially at 18. Usually guys at 18 are projects that are 6'6. Brown had a 1.26 PPG average. 1.5 over the last 30. That's production. Not projection like most 6'6 guys. That's high end production. He dominated at the u18s. Anyone that thinks he won't be a good player because of his size hasn't seen him play. Don't believe me? watch Canada/USA u18.

Everyone talks about how good Dubois was at the prospects game, yet no one mentions that Logan Brown was dominant in that game.
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I think he's going to be a great player. I have Brown, PLD and Keller rated higher than Pujo and Tkachunk.
 
buttman said:
I think he's going to be a great player. I have Brown, PLD and Keller rated higher than Pujo and Tkachunk.
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I have him a bit below. But his potential is scary. I just don't like the 'he's too tall' sentiment. Yes, usually he would be too tall. And I hate when people draft for size (Hubter Smith, Keegan Kanzig). But Brown is a legitimate talent. He's not getting drafted because people will think he can be good. He's already good.

I think it would be hilarious if the Flames had both him and Johnny Gaudreau. Brown's too big; Gaudreau is too small :laugh:
 
buttman said:
So that would make him shorter than average. Exactly my point. No advantage to being six foot six in Bball when plenty are bigger and absolutely no reason why he should be a Bbal player.

There are colledge players and 15 year olds that are 7'6" -- now that's a reason to be a basketball player.
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Manlets why even even play
 
I do not care if 6 feet 6 would be average for the NBA? Why in the heck would people even discuss that? All i know is- this guy is definitely a lock in the top ten.

I like his game, and loved how he performed for Team USA in the Under 18. Still sucks that Canada cut him last summer for the Ivan Hlinka tournament, causing him to go play for Team USA going forward. Wish Hockey Canada can have that one back.
 
I want Montreal to draft him. It's starting to look less and less likely tho. You never know how things go down but most of the latest rankings have him going before the 9th over all pick. Mind you Nylander or Keller would be an awesome consolation prize but browns my guy.
 
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