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C Leo Carlsson (2023, 2nd, ANA)

The way I see it is Carlsson is the safer bet (higher floor) but lower ceiling. And considering that Fantilli has more than enough tools, he's already a safe bet so there's no need to make that risk to pick Carlsson at #2.
 
The way I see it is Carlsson is the safer bet (higher floor) but lower ceiling. And considering that Fantilli has more than enough tools, he's already a safe bet so there's no need to make that risk to pick Carlsson at #2.
It's actually the opposite. Fantilli has the higher floor and Carlsson the higher ceiling. Fantilli's physical gifts provide that easy floor and Carlson's brain his higher ceiling.
 
It's actually the opposite. Fantilli has the higher floor and Carlsson the higher ceiling. Fantilli's physical gifts provide that easy floor and Carlson's brain his higher ceiling.
I see what you're saying but Carlsson has already shown his game against men which proves his floor. I agree with the brain part which is why I think the floor is higher however if Fantilli figures things out his tools are way better. Better passing (Carlsson's vision at the moment is better imo), better shot, better physicality, etc.

I think you need the brains to put the tools to work. I think Carlsson has less tools but uses his tools better, thus better floor but less of a ceiling based on ceiling potential.
 
That's pretty bold
I feel like it's not, but I also know that I'm in minority.

Fantilli feels like he could turn out a bit like a Lafreniere if things don't work out. Carlsson already feels like he's more "immune" from that sort of downside just based on his IQ and tools.
 
Welcome to Anaheim Leo Carlsson ! Please Columbus pick Fantilli so SJ doesn't get him.
Fresh Prince belongs in SJ anyways since Bel Air is in California.
 
I feel like it's not, but I also know that I'm in minority.

Fantilli feels like he could turn out a bit like a Lafreniere if things don't work out. Carlsson already feels like he's more "immune" from that sort of downside just based on his IQ and tools.
I don't feel Lafreniere is really the comparable. More likely in the Byfield mould. Unreal natural tools but you wonder if they ever click. But, at a minimum there is a middle six winger just based off of those tools. Speed, size, strength, will always allow those guys to be a strong forechecker and play a simplified game. Although, the same was thought to be true for Puljujarvi, who while a strong forechecker has never had the game click at the NHL level for a sustained period of time. Lafreniere is different in that he really had no elite skills that were obviously going to translate right away, but people felt the combination of skills and high-IQ would overcome it.
 
Great talent, but should probably stay in Sweden for at least another season
Agree. Anaheim should be in a better position as a team in 24-25 to add him into the roster as well. Next season is still going to be big growing pains for them.

I like the pick. Said earlier that I think he has the kind of high end offensive upside that Fantilli quite doesn't. We'll see how it goes.
 
Piecing together everything with Pronman saying half the league thinks it’s Fantilli at 2 and the other half thinks it’s Carlsson at 2 + Kaplan saying that the people she’s talked to don’t think the Ducks take him, starting to feel like it truly is Carlsson at 2. Think they’d be making the right move taking him at 2, not looking forward to seeing this kid as many times as we will as a divisional rival.

Anaheim made the right pick.
 

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