Sergei Shirokov
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I don't get it either. He's got all the offensive talent. Potential 1C that's 6'4 & can really skate.
C Kirby Dach (2019, 3rd, CHI)
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I don't get it either. He's got all the offensive talent. Potential 1C that's 6'4 & can really skate.
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Keep on dropping! Would be a dream to get him at 9/10 ish where we are rn.
Keep on dropping! Would be a dream to get him at 9/10 ish where we are rn.
It's pretty easy to understand why some don't rate him highly. First of all, I don't really think he is a C, and secondly and more importantly, he has serious issues in regards to his drive and willingness to compete. An extremely frustrating player with a lot of talent. Could end up anywhere from a winger version of Johansen to a Wojtek Wolski.
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And Cozens' defence is.....where, exactly?
SHG from last night. No intensity. Poor D....
Lmao soo many things wrong with this post. ..
1.. you didnt get the comment. "Somebody forgot about defence" is referring to the original post wanting Dach a hometown boy...... imo Oilers are fine at Centre....they might want to replenish that Dcore.
2. Poor Jett Woo ?? Lol if you've played any hockey before youd know that that's the other point man's fault. It's a PK which is Woo went after the loose puck. 5 on 5 he just backs up.
But on a 1 vs 2..Woo is supposed to retrieve puck and whoever that lazy backchecker is the last one back.
Anyways hopefully you'll get it
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1) Take a deep breath.
2) I watched this whole series - Dach abused Woo the entire time. Hence the comment.
3) No need for insults, 'lmao.' You're showing your age.
4) People who go straight to the 'if you've played hockey before' angle say more about themselves than the people they are responding to. I did play Jr. A in the BCHL, too, so jokes on you...
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You're adding 0 value to the discussion - as am I. And I think you've demonstrated that you are about halfway to MENSA, anyway, so not sure if you're worth discussing hockey with.
Dach is having an insane post season so far and that's what this thread should show.
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Insane post season?? That's a low standard considering he scored 1 even strength goal. I thought he was bottled up and didnt really generate any offence off the rush.
Very good zone offence player tho and has a tremendous reach.
I still question if he will ever learn to fully use his 6'4 body to trully be dominant in the NHL.
Great prospect tho and I'll take him top 5-10 in a heartbeat
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Dach was all over the place this series. No one could stop him. I'd say his biggest hindrance were his own teammates who could barely keep up with what he wanted do on the ice.
I've seen Dach live twice and watched the entire 4 games vs MJ. I wouldnt say I'm a Sadkatoon Blade expert.
But to me the only reason Dach isnt top 5 on my board and many scouts is because he doesnt play big and he lacks the burst and power on his acceleration. Other than that the talent and brain is all there.
I don’t know what you’re talking about, and I would say I probably have as many viewings of the Blades this season, live and otherwise, as pretty much anyone. He can accelerate hard when he chooses to, it’s just simply not a common aspect of his playstyle. It’s not a perfect comparison, but think a younger Ryan Getzlaf. Expecting him to play like Brayden Point is just foolish. And just because he isn’t inclined to go demolish the defense man in the corner doesn’t mean he doesn’t play big. He uses his excellent puck control and size to wear down defenders in the corner, and he drives hard to the net with the puck on a semi-regular basis.
My one and only complaint with him is his regular refusal to loose his lethal wrister from good spots because he’s looking to go cross-ice.
He has good acceleration when he chooses to ? K then he didnt choose to to do it the handful of games that I saw. Hes not a bad skater, especially when hes at full stride. But he definitely uses his long strides more than his power.
I dont know why u said Brayden Point as I never used that comparison.
Playing Big doesnt mean me a bulldozer. It just means more aggression and size to his game.
Why else would you say that someone 6'4 with hands and IQ isnt in the top 3? I think it's because of acceleration power, and not playing like hes 6'4.
I dont like the Getzlaf comparison , that guy was a bull in Calgary. I see some Jason Spezza/ Blake Wheeler in Dach.
He isn’t in the top-3 because of his statistical slump. He’s the full prospect package and I have high hopes for him. If he had continued his near-2 PPG pace from before that dry spell he would be there on every list, just as he was pushing for in November and December. People had him not only challenging but sometimes in front of Kakko and some discussion of him and Hughes came around, as they had similar production paces. Then his offence dried up for two months, there was one stretch where he scored like 4 points in 15 games or something crazy, as I saw him play multiple times during that stretch and was no less impressive than in the early season.
His style of slowing down the play has led to some concerns about his intensity. I don’t disagree with it entirely; there’s some small degree of risk there that I hadn’t really thought of back in October. But he’s firmly a top-5 prospect for this draft in my eyes and will compete for slots 3-6 with Byram and two guys that I don’t have sufficient viewings of but will respect consensus opinion for in Podkolzin and Turcotte.
Sergei Shirokov
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Why don't you see him as a C? Hasn't he only played C? I view Cozens as more likely to play wing than Dach. This is the first I've seen this brought up with Dach.
These are 17 year old kids, Dach's got some inconsistencies to iron out in his game absolutely, but the talent is there. I also wonder how much injuries might've bothered him during the year.
But he lives & breathes the game, guy doesn't even have social media. He seems to have improved his skating from last year to this year. I don't worry about his commitment to becoming a good pro.
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Man when this guy is on he’s unstoppable. I feel like he is the third most talented player in the draft. Should be interesting to see where he goes because he has everything that teams want.
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I've seen him 3 times and the one thing I'm not sold on is his compete/consistency. He just doesnt play fast or with urgency. That doesnt mean hes bad but I think thats something teams want that hes lacking. I could see him being a star or a center version of Anthony Mantha based on his compete level. Still a really good player but kinda makes you wonder if he brought it every night what he could do. I would take Cozens and Turcotte before him I think (havent seen Turcotte play really though)
He brought it every night against the Warriors and made them look silly damn near everytime he had the puck. I had concerns about his skating the last time I saw him but he was absolutely moving out there. If anything he brought his game to another level in the playoffs. Getzlaf had similar concerns about his compete level and actually wilted in the playoffs in his draft year. Dach has thrived so far. The 2nd round will be a real test to see what he is capable of.
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So you have Dach well above Cozens and Krebs? How would you compare and contrast the three?
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Can’t disagree with any of the points you made. Like I was saying talent wiss he has a ton of it. But teams might want to play it a bit safer and draft a guy like Turcotte with an elite two way game or going defence with Byram. I could see Dach going as early as 3 and as late as 10. Part of the reason why I like this years draft so much is because after the big two it’s wide open.
