I think a lot of people started watching Strome in the most recent round of the playoffs and he seems slower out there and as stated before he is injured, so I think that is why most people here think he is horrible. Now he isn't a fast skater but he also isn't a horrible skater either, he also likes to slow the play down a lot which makes him look slower then he really is. He has a slow first stride but overall his speed is average, and he is strong on his skates and is shifty with good edges.
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I think a lot of people started watching Strome in the most recent round of the playoffs and he seems slower out there and as stated before he is injured, so I think that is why most people here think he is horrible. Now he isn't a fast skater but he also isn't a horrible skater either, he also likes to slow the play down a lot which makes him look slower then he really is. He has a slow first stride but overall his speed is average, and he is strong on his skates and is shifty with good edges.
Director of NHL Central Scouting Dan Marr:
“He has that competitive edge and grittiness; he wants to succeed, wants the puck, wants to score and wants to win. He’s a skilled, driven player, a strong skater with the agility and reach that scouts love.â€
quote from Dan Marr, I can only take so much from people acting like Strome can not skate unless HFboard poster really think they know more then the director of NHL scouting but i wouldnt be surprised
“He has that competitive edge and grittiness; he wants to succeed, wants the puck, wants to score and wants to win. He’s a skilled, driven player, a strong skater with the agility and reach that scouts love.â€
quote from Dan Marr, I can only take so much from people acting like Strome can not skate unless HFboard poster really think they know more then the director of NHL scouting but i wouldnt be surprised
dude quit it with this crap. It's an opinion. People share opinions on message boards. No one here pretends to know more or be an official source. It's just a remark I made after having watched him.
I've watched 31 Erie games this year. There's no way that Strome is a better skater than Zacha.
thats not true at all, a ton of people on here act like they do, and like you said its a message board so if i wanna say they have no idea what they are talking about I can say it, I'm adding to the argument because I find it baseless. If some are allowed to say that everyone is wrong and Strome is the worst skater then I'm allowed to show professional opinions of scouts who say it isn't
But I'm not going to say that it is a strength and he isn't as good as others, but its not as bad as many or the majority want to believe
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The guy who drafted Patrik Štefan first overall ahead of the Sedins. Yeah, I'd take the opinion of an average HFBoards poster over him, don't kid yourself a lot of professional scouts aren't actually that amazing at evaluating talent.
Lol that was 16 years ago... scouting has completely changed since then. How many time people from these boards were surprised to see Horvat go 9th overall? How about Mark Scheifele going 7th overall? A lot of people on these forums though Grigorenko should have been top 10 or even top 5 in his draft year and a lot of people have passed him since then (not saying he's a bust yet and I think he can be a productive player if he's moved out of Buffalo).
Yeah you can point out guys who scouts overlooked like Gaudreau or Pastrnak more recently but the fact of the matter is that no one is 100% right. Hockey prospects are kind of a crapshoot to predict so stop acting like NHL scouts know nothing about hockey. Every player develops differently and it's almost impossible to predict how they will. I'm sure you've been right about every prediction about prospects in the past though
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Have you watched him play though? That's the exact opposite of how i would rate him. From what i've seen, he has terrible acceleration and is the most unmotivated floater out there.
Zaddy
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Is that quote really about Strome? Because it sounds nothing like him. He must be a very different player when I'm watching him play. (and I'm not just talking about the playoffs)
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I don't understand how any scout could describe Strome's skating as strong. Even Strome and his skating instructor acknowledge it's his weakness.
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I don't really think his skating is as bad as it is ugly. It's fairly effective, it just doesn't look good.
Where were all of you guys saying stuff like this before the playoffs is my question? I mean if you held this belief before the playoffs like some of you claim. Strome went from the prospect everyone wanted and everyone called a beast after the last game of the regular season, to an overrated atrocious skater that is soft and unmotivated.
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Personally I've held Marner in higher regard than Strome pretty much the entire season. I don't know if I necessarily posted on the mainboards but feel free to look in the draft threads on the Oilers board. I felt Marner was the superior prospect all along. You can also see me arguing heavily against Strome just after his last regular season game and I thought it was hilarious how people thought he was the greatest thing since sliced bread all off of that single game and people both here and in the media started pegging him in as the 3rd overall pick and many posters claimed he was much better than Draisaitl etc. Similarly, people are probably too hard on him now, especially if it's true that he is injured.
Personally I am just not high on his player type and I think people overrate him because of his size. He is big but doesn't use it to his advantage whatsover, whether that's shielding the puck or in board battles. He's a bad skater and he just never looks involved in the game. He never just decides to take control of the game and seem to disappear when it matters the most. Maybe that's a biproduct of him playing with McDavid and everyone on Erie just waiting, hoping he is gonna do everything. That's why it would be so interesting to see Strome without McDavid and see how he responds to that challenge, particularly in crunch time. Can he lead his team as the go-to guy? Can he step it up when it's needed? I think next season will be very telling.
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Yeah you can point out guys who scouts overlooked like Gaudreau or Pastrnak more recently but the fact of the matter is that no one is 100% right. Hockey prospects are kind of a crapshoot to predict so stop acting like NHL scouts know nothing about hockey. Every player develops differently and it's almost impossible to predict how they will. I'm sure you've been right about every prediction about prospects in the past though
WOW! MEGA reading comprehension FAIL buddy. I did not say NHL scouts know nothing about hockey, nor did I say I've been right about every prediction.
The point you missed is most scouts don't have any innate ability to evaluate or project talent any better than people here who watch a lot of hockey. In fact, when it comes to specific players, there are people on here who are season ticket holders and have far more viewings of certain players than any scout! Just because there's a lot of noise on here that you apparently can't discern very well doesn't mean there aren't a lot of people who know what they're talking about.
Reading comprehension. Next time maybe wait a few minutes before replying to calm down and interpret what the post ACTUALLY said and not what you WANT it to say.
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Teams have groups of scouts who evaluate players and view them significantly more than "an average HFBoards poster." I think I'd trust them more then the average HFBoards poster as they watch games and not just stats or other scouting reports. Not to say there aren't some fine scouts on these boards as there are some very passionate people who do great writeups, they just aren't the average HFBoards poster. I think my reading comprehension is just fine.
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That Corey Perry kid in London has horrible skating, Only reason we are considering him is because we got our man with the 1st pick; can go with the risk / reward type player here - however, it is hard not to see this being a major hindrance to his game.
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Back to Strome.
The only thing that I really am concerned about is his grittiness and ability to play tough mins. - muscle it out and be a true number 1. You can throw skating in there, but his heart needs to 'want it' - he has everything else that says: top line player. If he wants it, he can work on his skating...prove that he is right up there in conversation with McDavid and Eichel for tops center in this draft.
This draft has potential to really usher in this 'new wave' of high end talent. Does Strome have the 'IT' to be apart of the wave? or just blend in with the rest?
Interesting prospect - I wouldn't pass on him, if he were on the board.
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Back to Strome.
The only thing that I really am concerned about is his grittiness and ability to play tough mins. - muscle it out and be a true number 1. You can throw skating in there, but his heart needs to 'want it' - he has everything else that says: top line player. If he wants it, he can work on his skating...prove that he is right up there in conversation with McDavid and Eichel for tops center in this draft.
This draft has potential to really usher in this 'new wave' of high end talent. Does Strome have the 'IT' to be apart of the wave? or just blend in with the rest?
Interesting prospect - I wouldn't pass on him, if he were on the board.
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Lol that was 16 years ago... scouting has completely changed since then. How many time people from these boards were surprised to see Horvat go 9th overall? How about Mark Scheifele going 7th overall? A lot of people on these forums though Grigorenko should have been top 10 or even top 5 in his draft year and a lot of people have passed him since then (not saying he's a bust yet and I think he can be a productive player if he's moved out of Buffalo).
Yeah you can point out guys who scouts overlooked like Gaudreau or Pastrnak more recently but the fact of the matter is that no one is 100% right. Hockey prospects are kind of a crapshoot to predict so stop acting like NHL scouts know nothing about hockey. Every player develops differently and it's almost impossible to predict how they will. I'm sure you've been right about every prediction about prospects in the past though
Then stop acting like they are
.Anyway Leafs will have one of Marner or Hanifin available to them at 4. That is who we should be picking. Wouldn't mind grabbing a 6th and taking Strome there, but I'm not sure if he'd be their at 6.
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It's all pro Marner propaganda. Some how we are expected to believe Strome is ranked 3rd/4rth despite being a crap player who only has size. Remember how the playoffs would not affect players rankings after Marner was an early exit ? Suddenly changed when Strome playing hurt looks less dominant than usual
. I can understand liking a player but I do not understand why it has to be at the expense of another player and why everyone is so bloody competitive about it.
It's all pro Marner propaganda. Some how we are expected to believe Strome is ranked 3rd/4rth despite being a crap player who only has size. Remember how the playoffs would not affect players rankings after Marner was an early exit ? Suddenly changed when Strome playing hurt looks less dominant than usual
I can understand liking a player but I do not understand why it has to be at the expense of another player and why everyone is so bloody competitive about it.
The best part is to watch how quickly the opinions change once their team, or a rival team, picks the player.
Yup. I used to like Strome but as I watched more Otters games I realized how slow he is. He disappears and he doesn't seem dynamic at all.
The 3-7 range is going to be interesting this year. I hope the Leafs are smart and take Marner over Strome.
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