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GoAwayDanCleary
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Exactly. He doesn't play the game like the players I have seen many comparing him. Thanks for finally agreeing with him.
And style-wise he indeed is more comparable to Crosby. But there is a reason why Crosby is the only franchise-center who can be as good as he is without controlling the pace of the game (and even he does it, but not as often as the two mentioned). Or are we know talking about Larking being comparable to not Toews/Kopitar but to Crosby?
Crosby controls the pace of game just as much as the those two... he just quickens it. Same can be said for Larkin. He doesn't have the opportunity to do it as much when he plays wing.
Laser Rayzor
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Like others have mentioned I'd like to see him against some better teams (particularly heavy teams) to get a better judgement but he is looking realgud.
I cringed at the Dylan McDavid joke, I also found it funny how they were talking up the local boy angle and one of them said he was a Wings fan growing up when he was actually a leafs fan (haven't dug up the quote but he mentioned it pre-draft and was at the winter classic in a Leafs hat)
For anyone watching the game on Sportsnet and those who didn't, Glenn Healy actually called him "Dylan McDavid"
For it's worth he also said Larkin was from Scarborough...
I cringed at the Dylan McDavid joke, I also found it funny how they were talking up the local boy angle and one of them said he was a Wings fan growing up when he was actually a leafs fan (haven't dug up the quote but he mentioned it pre-draft and was at the winter classic in a Leafs hat)
Kelly
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- Nov 12, 2012
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It isn't the opposite -- I'm not gonna pretend like Leaf fans are innocent, because their far from it. But reading the Nylander thread lots of Wing fans and neutral fans are quick to bring up Larkin and how he's so much superior to Nylander, especially recently. Like this whole thread if littered with posts about how Larkin is in the NHL and Nylander is in the AHL.... I'll settle with it's a little bit of both.
Tampa had guys like St. Louis, Lecavalier, Prospal, Kings had Viznovsky, Blake, Cammalleri, Pittsburgh, Lemieux, Palffy, LeClaire also doesn't hurt when you're Crosby, Kane, or a Toews... Are you really arguing that it's not easier for young players to come in and have success when they're insulated around good or great players? I thought this was common knowledge..
Larkin has shown he is NHL ready and im not disputing that, but it's definitely easier for a player like Larkin who is also a superior two way player to come in and have success playing with the likes of big Z, than Nylander who would be coming in and playing with guys like Bozak, Kadri, JVR, Boyes, PAP, while also having the 1000 ton pressure blanket of the Toronto Media hanging over him, plus the unrealistic expectations that would go along with it. Babcock knows our team is gonna be looking hard for offense this year, Nylander would probably be our best offensive weapon after JVR/Kadri. He and mgmt both thought it would be the best for Nylander to stay far away from this dumpster fire.
It goes both ways, Nylander is knocked because Larkin is in the NHL. Go to the Nylander thread and you'll see what I'm talking about.
Redwingsfan
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I dont get some of these posts at all. Larkin has a good first game, his fans are obviously excited about that, and the usual suspects flock to his thread to minimize it, even if just a little bit.
Its sad that we can't just enjoy all the great young talent around the league. Even if they play for another team. Everything has to be some sort of competition here where your teams prospect has to come out on top.
We actually live in a world where more than one player can be good. Larkin doing well in his first game doesn't make Nylander any less of a prospect. They can both be good. Thats ok
Its sad that we can't just enjoy all the great young talent around the league. Even if they play for another team. Everything has to be some sort of competition here where your teams prospect has to come out on top.
We actually live in a world where more than one player can be good. Larkin doing well in his first game doesn't make Nylander any less of a prospect. They can both be good. Thats ok
Redwingsfan
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It does go both ways, but I think we'd come a long way if people just let that stuff go. When everyone has to reply to that one post that says something ridiculous, it can completely derail the thread.
newfy
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Larkin was good today. It was one game, but you could see the potential there.
For anyone watching the game on Sportsnet and those who didn't, Glenn Healy actually called him "Dylan McDavid"
For it's worth he also said Larkin was from Scarborough...
Wings broadcast inteviewed his Dad and they said the Dad is oringinally from Toronto area. Must be a dual citizen hwy hes so good at hockey
BobDobolina
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He was incredible last night. Most confident first game for a U20 player I've seen in a long time.
The Zermanator
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Who's we, exactly? Toronto fans who've had Babcock for 3 months? This claim keeps being made, completely unchecked.
Detroit fan here, watched Babcock coach the Wings for the last 10 years. 95% chance at least that Larkin is on the Leafs right now. The 5% chance he wouldn't be has nothing to do with Babcock. He is seriously Babcock's wet dream. He can be trusted defensively over good chunks of Toronto's roster already and clearly his offence is nothing to sneeze at. He is NHL ready and there's no doubt in my mind that Babcock would want to take control over his development on the TML. Many Wings fans here will agree with me on this.
snailderby
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Here you go:Like others have mentioned I'd like to see him against some better teams (particularly heavy teams) to get a better judgement but he is looking realgud.
I cringed at the Dylan McDavid joke, I also found it funny how they were talking up the local boy angle and one of them said he was a Wings fan growing up when he was actually a leafs fan (haven't dug up the quote but he mentioned it pre-draft and was at the winter classic in a Leafs hat)
Here you go:
Whats the red thing hes holding?
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Larkin had another good game tonight. Had a nice assist on zetterbergs goal, and led our team in shots for the 2nd straight game.
In the 3rd, Blash moved him down to center the 2nd line, and that line scored 2 goals in their first two shifts
Larkin is already +6 on the season, without being sheltered
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Pavels Dog
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It's fair to say that through 2 games, he's been one of the best Red Wings players. He's been on the ice for 6 of the Wings 8 goals, and no goals against.
Tonight wasn't quite as sharp from him as last night, but he still had some nice plays and anytime he's on the ice it seems like good things happen.
Tonight wasn't quite as sharp from him as last night, but he still had some nice plays and anytime he's on the ice it seems like good things happen.
Actually, he's a wings fan because he was raise in Michigan. He's a Toronto fan because his dad was born in Toronto.
The balance tipped in the Wings' favor when Larkin went to Detroit. I'm sure there will always be a soft spot for Toronto, as the family has a history with that city as well.
But in no way was Larkin a straight up Toronto fan only. Their family enjoys both cities. I'm sure Larkin would have been thrilled with either team drafting him. So would have his family.
The balance tipped in the Wings' favor when Larkin went to Detroit. I'm sure there will always be a soft spot for Toronto, as the family has a history with that city as well.
But in no way was Larkin a straight up Toronto fan only. Their family enjoys both cities. I'm sure Larkin would have been thrilled with either team drafting him. So would have his family.
ProbertKocur
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He had a play where he got out-muscled and then took a dumb penalty, but other than that he looked solid tonight.
we think this cuz we saw Willie and Larkin both play and while Larkin had better #'s Nylander was also effective. The separation pre season was nil till Larkin last 2 games, the same time the Leafs didn't play Nylander. IMO sitting him after his play even when Babs said he was the best player told me they had no intention on giving any rookie a shot
SpookyTsuki
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Could be because of back to back, Can't tell though.
Larkin still played like a beast on a back to back game at which the team apparently he got there at 3 am in the morning.
Dotter
THE ATHLETIC IS GARBAGE
Wings would have lost tonight if not for Larkin. He single-handedly won this game against the Hurricanes. His assists and relentlessness to retrieve the puck was pure domination. He couldn't be contained.
+6 in two games
+6 in two games
Birko19
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Let's not get carried away here, he was good tonight but not the best. It was Mrazek that was the best player for the Wings followed by Zetterberg, then it was probably Larkin.
I definitely agree with this - Larkin was good but Mrazek and Z were the true stars for us
Dotter
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I like Mrazek a lot, but lets be real... he was spitting out rebounds like a pez candy dispenser all night long.
Zetterberg was just doing what Zetterberg does best, but Larkin made things happen on both lines he played on.
Henkka
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This was really impressive. Our only line which did get chances at first 2 periods was Zetterberg line, where Larkin was.
Then, after line sufflings, Pulkkinen wakes up and scores 2 goals... on a line where Larkin was. Larkin did a nice forecheking pressure on that 2-2 goal (which lead to bad Cane-defenceman turnover), but didn't get a point of that.
Detroit has scored 8 goals at this season, 6 when Larkin is on the ice.
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