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C Dylan Larkin (2014, 15th, DET)

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obey86 said:
Come on dawg, we all know Hyman carried that line. I mean, look at his track record of offensive excellence prior to Larkin arriving: 9 points, 9 points, 17 points. :nod:
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In 3 seasons, 35 points. Obviously he was the straw

(Alcohol means I can't count)
 
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But hey, he was only prospect of the year lol...

He is centering the first line in Detroit and Hyman is heading back to the Minors, obviously Larkin was the secondary piece.

Sigh I love HF for if I and people opinions, but hatred gets in the way.

Yes, Detroit fans are excited, we haven't had a prospect like Larkin in a long time. We don't get the Kane's, Tavares, McDavid, Eichel. Yes we're not praising him as the next great one... But to say that he might be a guy like Toews, who he just out scored in his freshman year is obsured? No it's not.... The numbers and potential and most importantly drive and character are there. Simple as that. He has done something thay no one has done since Primeau for Detrot standards.... And we're not the only ones talking.... Watch TSN and so forth.... We're not the only ones on the hype train.
 
crashnburnluder said:
But hey, he was only prospect of the year lol...

He is centering the first line in Detroit and Hyman is heading back to the Minors, obviously Larkin was the secondary piece.

Sigh I love HF for if I and people opinions, but hatred gets in the way.

Yes, Detroit fans are excited, we haven't had a prospect like Larkin in a long time. We don't get the Kane's, Tavares, McDavid, Eichel. Yes we're not praising him as the next great one... But to say that he might be a guy like Toews, who he just out scored in his freshman year is obsured? No it's not.... The numbers and potential and most importantly drive and character are there. Simple as that. He has done something thay no one has done since Primeau for Detrot standards.... And we're not the only ones talking.... Watch TSN and so forth.... We're not the only ones on the hype train.
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Bucci just gave him a big shout out on Sportscenter with SVP, called him a future superstar in this league... To your point this isn't just Wings fans.
 
GooseTooLoose said:
Pierre McGuire and Ed Olczyk thoughts on Larkin:

Analysts: Wings’ Larkin has talent to make NHL jump
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Wait, I think I have a response to that, just let me find it on the previous pages... ah yes:

Semantics said:
He outperformed Jack Eichel at the WJC, and it doesn't seem completely unlikely that he could so again and challenge for the Calder.
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WhiskeyYourTheDevils said:
Replace Larkin with Reinhart and Eichel with McDavid and you could make the same argument. And it would sound just as ridiculous.

Larkin is a great young player but he's not in Eichel's tier.
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:popcorn:
 
I don't think he is challenging Eichel or McDavid for the Calder, I would like to see him be a finalist though. We will see what happens, I doubt the Wings really all get healthy, but if they do he might go down for a bit, Team USA WJC team would rejoice if he somehow winds up down there for a bit and is loaned out for Christmas though. Don't see that happening anymore but time will tell.

If he stays up and in the top six hard not to see him in that Calder conversation at least in terms of finalist.

One real good thing is he already isn't bashful about shooting the puck something a lot of young players struggle with. Playing with Zetterberg means he is going to be getting a lot of good passes to help make his case to stick around all year too.
 
Pavels Dog said:
Eichel and McDavid have legit shots at the Art Ross imo. So I think Mcguire is way off there.

But still. It's NOT just Wings fans who think Larkin is a damn fine prospect.
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You think McDavid and Eichel have a legitimate chance of getting ~90 pts?
 
Pavels Dog said:
Eichel and McDavid have legit shots at the Art Ross imo. So I think Mcguire is way off there.

But still. It's NOT just Wings fans who think Larkin is a damn fine prospect.
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Well Larkin's calling card is his two-way game. He won't put up the same numbers as those two.

I strongly doubt that either contends for the Art Ross though. I expect low 70s on the high end. If Larkin can get within 10-15 points he will be in the Calder conversation, but I think those are at the high end of his expectations as well.
 
L13 said:
You think McDavid and Eichel have a legitimate chance of getting ~90 pts?
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I think so. Maybe one of them will struggle a bit more but both seem legit. But mainly I don't think that they're going to be in the 40-60 point territory, but that's about the most I see Larkin putting up if he plays the full year and all goes well. Larkin could be as low as 30-40 points if he doesn't get off to a good start. I still think that would be a good year for him if his overall game is strong.
 
The Zetterberg Era said:
I don't think he is challenging Eichel or McDavid for the Calder.
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I don't see why not. He has two very big things going for him: 1) he's on a far better team and may score more and be more productive than the other two simply because of that - 2) he's going to play with Zetterberg right away and perhaps Datsyuk later. Those factors will help inflate his numbers if he manages to stay in the top 6.

Meanwhile, Eichel and McDavid are on very poor teams that will struggle.
 
DanZ said:
If Larkin can get within 10-15 points he will be in the Calder conversation, but I think those are at the high end of his expectations as well.
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If Larkin gets 15 points he will not even be in the top 20 in rookie scoring and highly unlikely to make any Calder list. No matter how good his defensive play is. Defensive forwards don't make Calder lists. And if Larkin plays 70+ games in the top 6 in Detroit he will have FAR more points than 15. He's too skilled and the team is too good for him not too. Obviously he could be in the AHL by the weekend, you never know, but I think expectations are rightly much higher than a 15 point rookie season (unless that's in 20 games)
 
MatthewFlames said:
If Larkin gets 15 points he will not even be in the top 20 in rookie scoring and highly unlikely to make any Calder list. No matter how good his defensive play is. Defensive forwards don't make Calder lists. And if Larkin plays 70+ games in the top 6 in Detroit he will have FAR more points than 15. He's too skilled and the team is too good for him not too. Obviously he could be in the AHL by the weekend, you never know, but I think expectations are rightly much higher than a 15 point rookie season (unless that's in 20 games)
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He meant within 15 points of McDavid/Eichel.
 
MatthewFlames said:
If Larkin gets 15 points he will not even be in the top 20 in rookie scoring and highly unlikely to make any Calder list. No matter how good his defensive play is. Defensive forwards don't make Calder lists. And if Larkin plays 70+ games in the top 6 in Detroit he will have FAR more points than 15. He's too skilled and the team is too good for him not too. Obviously he could be in the AHL by the weekend, you never know, but I think expectations are rightly much higher than a 15 point rookie season (unless that's in 20 games)
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Yeah, see below:

GooseTooLoose said:
He meant within 15 points of McDavid/Eichel.
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MatthewFlames said:
I don't see why not. He has two very big things going for him: 1) he's on a far better team and may score more and be more productive than the other two simply because of that - 2) he's going to play with Zetterberg right away and perhaps Datsyuk later. Those factors will help inflate his numbers if he manages to stay in the top 6.

Meanwhile, Eichel and McDavid are on very poor teams that will struggle.
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Sorta goes both ways. Stephen Weiss put up 60 point seasons in Florida because he was on a bad team. He was the go to guy in every situation. He gets tons of PP time and ES time to go and score.

Larkin right now is rotating in on one of the PP units because the team is good enough where he doesn't necessarily have a spot on the PP. He's playing on the first line, for now. When Datsyuk and Helm come back it's not even clear he'll still be with the Wings. Very likely he gets sent down or at least, goes down the depth chart where his minutes and role get reduced.

It's a bit hard to know exactly how much it helps or hurts in either situation. If Larkin spent the whole year on Datsyuk's wing I'd call it a bonus for him but that's not likely to happen.
 
“The young guys have been really good [in preseason]. Dylan Larkin, this guy is the real deal. Bringing him along slowly all makes sense -- but not if you watch the games. From a process perspective, I get it. But you can’t say you’re going to play Joakim Andersson ahead of Dylan Larkin. I like Joakim Andersson, but he’s a fourth-line guy. Dylan Larkin, with Pavel Datsyuk out, might be their best centerman right now. No offense to [Henrik] Zetterberg, [Riley] Sheahan or [Luke] Glendening.” -- Eastern conference executive
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http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/craig-custance/insider/post?id=6496
 
Looks like players aren't the only ones taking coke. Larkin above Zetterberg in his rookie year as a C?
 
Pi said:
Looks like players aren't the only ones taking coke. Larkin above Zetterberg in his rookie year as a C?
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Yeah I know Z is slowing down but that seems a little ridiculous...although it does make me excited anyway
 
It's just so ideal to bring Larkin in to Red Wings two-way center game, Zetterberg mentoring him at same time and same line how to play it. Just a perfect way.
 
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