C Connor Bedard - Regina Pats, WHL (2023 Draft) Part 5

[ijuka]

Patrick Kane

Kane was considered generational pre-draft? Now you're reaching. He was actually underestimated quite a bit before his rookie season. He wasn't really considered an especially high-end first overall pick, even.

Also, drawing trends from a sample of 1 player is ridiculously unscientific.

 

[Bubbles]

2G, 1A just in the 1st.

 

[FDBluth]

lol, I haven't seen someone casually break ankles so often since Mario Lemieux

 

[Fraser28]

3G, 1A so far for Bedard with more than a period to go. Points on all 4 Pats goals.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Kane was considered generational pre-draft? Now you're reaching. He was actually underestimated quite a bit before his rookie season. He wasn't really considered an especially high-end first overall pick, even.

Also, drawing trends from a sample of 1 player is ridiculously unscientific.

That's not what I'm saying.

 

[Mr Buckles]

20 goals in his last 9 games.

 

[Fraser28]

Wow big collapse by the Pats blowing the 4-2 lead and losing 6-4.

 

[GlassesJacketShirt]

Unfortunately, the Pats are still an awful team so they suffer a 5 goal meltdown.

I think this is about as top-heavy a roster as I've seen in junior. If their top players don't produce, they're doomed. If their top players produce, they have a 50/50 chance of winning.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Wow big collapse by the Pats blowing the 4-2 lead and losing 6-4.

Pats are mostly garbage. Especially the goaltender. Bedard made 2 great diving plays to keep the puck in the offensive zone in the last 2 minutes but the othere Pats couldn't do anything with their chances.

 

[Yepthatsme]

20 goals in his last 9 games.

Sitting at a super casual 3.5 points per game and 8.3 shots per game since coming back from the world juniors.

 

[Mike8]

Okay, so they did that.

And what if another generational player dominates in a different manner? A sample of 2 is completely meaningless for drawing such specific conclusions.

Also, might I mention WJC-u20 domination? Or let me guess, generational players didn't dominate like that so Bedard doing so was a negative? Let me guess, generational players weren't such good goal-scorers, so Bedard being so good at scoring goals means he's not generational? Did you address Bedard being over 50% of his team's scoring while McDavid was 36%, also? Let me guess, Bedard's not generational because he's contributing too much.

You really need to learn something about statistics, you can't concentrate on such ridiculously specific things with such samples. Maybe if there were 3k generational players all of whom were ES scoring machines it'd be enough to draw such specific conclusions from.

You're focused on one single thing ignoring everything else. Seems like you're looking for stats to aid with your conclusions rather than drawing conclusions from stats, aka misuse of statistics.

This pretty much concludes the discussion. There's no logical retort to this post. Well done.

 

[Viking78]

For teams clowning around for the 1st pick this year, how about:

"wet the bed for bedard"?

Or“shit hard for Bedard“?

 

[AUAIOMRN]

Or“shit hard for Bedard“?

Let's Get Bedarded In Here

 

[EdJovanovski]

Sucks we likely won’t see Bedard in the playoffs, are the Pats really that horrible? How are they so bad with a generational player

 

[Gold Standard]

I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that he just may be - may be - the best I've seen since Mario.

What he might be able to do on a better team that is better coached just tantalizes the imagination.

 

[Breakfast of Champs]

15+6 in 6 games since the WJC, 2.5 goals per game over that stretch.

Wasn't there someone on here saying he needs to go 3ppg after the WJC to be on Crosby's level? Well he's doing it so far

 

[daver]

One of the interesting things about Bedard is that he is competing against the reigning CHL player of the year who is playing as a 19/20 year old, something that McDavid and Crosby did not have to face.

Here is how Bedard matches up against Stankoven who is #2 in the WHL in key offensive stats with the 3rd best in parenthesis.

Bedard's PPG is 2.50 which is 12% better than Stankoven's PPG of 2.24 (3rd best 1.72)

Bedard's GPG is 1.23 which is 42% better than Stankoven's GPG 0.86 (3rd best 0.83)


If we take away points scored on the PP:

Bedard's PPG is 1.56 which is 11% better than Stankoven's PPG of 1.41 (3rd best 1.24)

Bedard's GPG is 0.88 which is 33% better than Stankoven's GPG 0.66 (3rd best 0.56)


McDavid in 14/15:

McDavid's PPG was 2.55, his GPG was 0.94. his PPG less PP points was 1.66 , his GPG less PP goals was 0.74


Crosby in 04/05:

Crosby's PPG was 2.71, his GPG was 1.06. his PPG less PP points was 1.67 , his GPG less PP goals was 0.77


That Bedard's GPG is almost 50% of his PPG stands out here. He loses a bit more on the PP but any narrative that his numbers need context is seemingly more than offset with his goalscoring prowess.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

This kid is going to be soo hated by every other fanbase to the levels we never seen before.

The kid seems universally loved by hockey fans what are you saying lol

 

[Blue and Green]

One of the interesting things about Bedard is that he is competing against the reigning CHL player of the year who is playing as a 19 year old (18 months older),

Stankoven is 29 months older than Bedard.

 

[RedHawkDown]

The kid seems universally loved by hockey fans what are you saying lol

He’s a pretty big pest in addition to all the skill. I think he’ll be hated

 

[Bombshell11]

Surprise surprise

Carlsson is the true no1 OA

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

He’s a pretty big pest in addition to all the skill. I think he’ll be hated

thats another thing i love about him kid is so talented but he also plays with grit

 

[MeHateHe]

Surprise surprise

Carlsson is the true no1 OA

I hope you're being sarcastic.

 

[Bombshell11]

I hope you're being sarcastic.

No i really believe Carlsson is going to have the better career

 

[TheBeastCoast]

No i really believe Carlsson is going to have the better career

Certainly is an opinion.