C Connor Bedard - Regina Pats, WHL (2023 Draft) Part 3

[Peasy]

Leafs fans can cry all they want but the truth is that Bedard is the best shooter we've seen at this age, period.

Matthews obviously developed a lot and continued to grow but there's no one in Matthews class who thought he'd ever score 60 and most conceded Laine would be the better goal scorer.

But Bedard can already shoot it and one can conceive that he'll continue to develop further.

Please tell me who is crying here?

Who was the better "prospect". Who really gives a f***. Cause I certainly don't. Theres a world where Bedard ends up better than someone like McDavid, there could also be the world where he doesn't reach McDavid level. All I did was say he shoots similar to Matthews and I got a buncha clowns coming in here making strawman arguments, you as well it seems like.

And what a surprise, the people making a stink about mentioning Matthews is an Oilers fan and a Habs fan. Can't see the name Matthews without needing to add your 2 cents into everything.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Please tell me who is crying here?

Who was the better "prospect". Who really gives a f***. All I did was say he shoots similar to Matthews and I got a buncha clowns coming in here making strawman arguments, you as well it seems like.

Looks like a lot of crying down below.

I don't disagree that Bedard has drawn a lot from Matthews as a shooter (as any good prospect SHOULD be doing) and I disagree with people saying he's shooting a completely different way than Matthews.

What I am referencing is the crying at the suggestion that Bedard being a better shooter than Matthews. He is absolutely trending that way.. and No, you called someone cringe for suggesting he's a better shooter than Matthews and then pointed out his fan allegiance as if that should have any bearing on anything. Especially an Oilers fan where they have no reason to be jealous of any player considering they have the best player in the NHL and it isn't close.

 

[Peasy]

Looks like a lot of crying down below.

I don't disagree that Bedard has drawn a lot from Matthews as a shooter (as any good prospect SHOULD be doing) and I disagree with people saying he's shooting a completely different way than Matthews.

What I am referencing is the crying at the suggestion that Bedard being a better shooter than Matthews. He is absolutely trending that way.. and No, you called someone cringe for suggesting he's a better shooter than Matthews and then pointed out his fan allegiance as if that should have any bearing on anything. Especially an Oilers fan where they have no reason to be jealous of any player considering they have the best player in the NHL and it isn't close.

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Dude, go look at my original post. I said "He shoots like matthews". Then that clown quotes me and says "Better than Matthews." trying to create some random ass strawman. My post had nothing to do with who is the better shooter, who will have a better career, who will have a better goal total. None of that. So thats why I called him cringe. I was simply making a comment that he shoots very similar to Matthews. Nothing more, nothing less. But then I get a bunch of people jumping down my throat putting words into my mouth.

 

[Rengorlex]

On one hand we have actual professionals calling Bedard already the best shooter in the world. On the other we have salty HFBoards posters who can't accept a teenager has surpassed their idols.

]Bedard can do things that nobody else can. I’m not talking about him compared to other prospects in this draft. I’m talking nobody. As in, you could put him on the ice with the world’s best shooters (say, Auston Matthews, Nikita Kucherov, Patrik Laine, Alex Ovechkin, Alex DeBrincat, and Steven Stamkos) and they wouldn’t be able to load up just off of their lead skate and fire it off-balance as he does.

It's like McDavid, who was already the best skater of all time at around 16. The sport evolves and Bedard is the next step forward in shooting mechanics. Argue with a wall.

 

[Peasy]

On one hand we have actual professionals calling Bedard already the best shooter in the world. On the other we have salty HFBoards posters who can't accept a teenager has surpassed their idols.


It's like McDavid, who was already the best skater of all time at around 16. The sport evolves and Bedard is the next step forward in shooting mechanics. Argue with a wall.

I wasn't arguing anything

I was just saying he shoots similar to Matthews and you feel the need to create this strawman argument for some reason.

If you want to say Bedard is the best shooter in the world at this moment then have at it. I won't try and stop you.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

I think most people just underrated Matthews as a prospect at the time. Combination of immediately following the hype of McDavid as a prospect and taking a non traditional path for a top prospect. If people really want to act like a Matthews comparison is some kind of slight on Bedard they need to reevaluate.

He was also a pretty big kid whose skating took some time to mature, especially in comparison to Eichel. The upside was always there, but as a 16-17 year old he just had a few more steps to take to get to the next level.

I think Bedard is on the same tier of prospect as Matthews and Eichel were - franchise level centers. He lacks the size of those two, which could limit him if he doesn't add another gear (I suspect he will), but he's probably got a more refined skillset at 17 than either of them.

Obviously things have turned out better for Matthews than Eichel, and if Bedard ends up as good as Matthews, his fans should be elated. I think it's quite likely that Bedard doesn't quite reach Matthews' current level, as he was pretty much in McDavid territory this year...

 

[ijuka]

On one hand we have actual professionals calling Bedard already the best shooter in the world. On the other we have salty HFBoards posters who can't accept a teenager has surpassed their idols.

He scored at the same pace in WHL as Matthews scored in NHL.

Sorry for not believing he's a better shooter.

Also did you even read that article you linked in here? The article and even bedard himself talks about forming how he shoots based off of Matthews.



Yeah, thats why Bedard himself even said he learned that shooting technique by watching Matthews...




Like watch both them shoot and tell me the technique is very different

Hand position's entirely different, release's different, flex profile used is different.

Obviously he studies Matthews, I'm sure every scorer studies the best shooter in the world. Duh? Who wouldn't?

 

[Faceboner]

You're cringe.

Edit: Oh you're an Oilers fan. That explains it.

Also did you even read that article you linked in here? The article and even bedard himself talks about forming how he shoots based off of Matthews.



Yeah, thats why Bedard himself even said he learned that shooting technique by watching Matthews...




Like watch both them shoot and tell me the technique is very different

No slight on matthews but toe drag snapshot has been a thing he didn't create he just is the best to execute it chances are he learned that in the usdp

 

[I am toxic]

Speaking of Matthews in this Bedard thread, I think Bedard should have planned on going to Europe and play in a men's league this season, providing there is a league/team/coach situation that was as favourable as Matthews found.

I think another year of junior is not as beneficial for him at this point - the quality of opponent will vary more. Fewer games, more time to practice and/or just live life. I hear from many players who return from Europe how their eyes were opened by the different training techniques. Maybe none of those techniques are a fit with his needs/development, but maybe one or some of them are. I know, he's already played a bit in what, Sweden or Finland, one of those scandinavian places, and will be exposed to their techniques, but I think a whole season would be more useful.

Obviously I think Bedard will develop well regardless of wherever he plays, but I feel Matthews really surprised a lot of people with how good he has become, and I can't help but think going to Europe and playing for Crow could have done nothing but help.

And if I am wrong, it probably wouldn't hurt, and he would get a new life experience which is nice regardless of hockey but also may help him as he progresses through his hockey career.

But what do I know?

 

[AlexanderSemin21]

have anyone ever saw Bedard taking a slapshot/one timer? It seems like he only uses his elite wrist shot, but i've never saw him shooting a one time bomb like Stamkos, Ovechkin, etc

 

[MichaelFarrell]

have anyone ever saw Bedard taking a slapshot/one timer? It seems like he only uses his elite wrist shot, but i've never saw him shooting a one time bomb like Stamkos, Ovechkin, etc

He took a couple last night. It also looks lethal. It seems like he doesn’t utilize his one-timer that much because he is a puck possession-type player as well. His wrist shot is just so elite that it makes more sense to utilize that shot rather than pass the puck and eventually allow his teammates to set him up for the one-timer a lot of the time.

 

[57special]

It's interesting to go back a year and read posts about Wright. The big debate(s) back then were whether he belonged in the McDavid, Eichel, or Bergeron tier of player, and was a no brainer to be a #1 pick. His shot was considered to be elite.

In other words, at that time, Wright was considered to be what Bedard is now, except that Bedard's size is an issue. It will be interesting to see how he develops. People saying that he has a better shot than Mathews right now, are out of their minds, IMO.

 

[Saviour]

Bedard is basically a Canadian Patrick Kane in the works. Which is a compliment.

 

[RedHawkDown]

No slight on matthews but toe drag snapshot has been a thing he didn't create he just is the best to execute it chances are he learned that in the usdp

He created the way he shoots. It is extremely unique. He is the best technical shooter in the NHL and it isn’t close.

Leafs haters are almost as annoying as Leafs fans.

 

[Faceboner]

He created the way he shoots. It is extremely unique. He is the best technical shooter in the NHL and it isn’t close.

Leafs haters are almost as annoying as Leafs fans.

Every player shoots their own way and i never said he wasn't the best how does that make me a hater?

 

[QJL]

Bedard is basically a Canadian Patrick Kane in the works. Which is a compliment.

They are not anything alike. Bedard is a powerful skater, dominates the middle of the ice, and has one of the best shots in the world. Kane works his edges, is the world’s best stickhandler, creates from the perimeter, and is a pass first playmaker.

Pat LaFontaine would be a closer American comparison if you’re picking from the top range of American forwards.

 

[bossram]

I think Bedard is going to be a revelation in the NHL. A sure superstar.

But I would probably wait until he actually makes the NHL before calling him a better shooter than a guy who just scored 101 goals in his last 125 games.

 

[Fantomas]

In other words, at that time, Wright was considered to be what Bedard is now, except that Bedard's size is an issue. It will be interesting to see how he develops.

Not just his size, but his ability to play center in the NHL.

 

[Faceboner]

I think Bedard is going to be a revelation in the NHL. A sure superstar.

But I would probably wait until he actually makes the NHL before calling him a better shooter than a guy who just scored 101 goals in his last 125 games.

I think he will be a better playmaker and play driver shot will be a notch below

 

[Bounces R Way]

Already pretty sick of TSN asking every single Canadian player about Bedard and how he shoots it. These kids have worked most of their lives to get here and are all talented hockey players in their own right. Don't need to hear 20 different variations of "Yeah uh he shoots it really good, wow he's so amazing, maybe one day I can grow up to be Connor Bedard."

That's just lazy coverage.

 

[prongertheman9]

Already pretty sick of TSN asking every single Canadian player about Bedard and how he shoots it. These kids have worked most of their lives to get here and are all talented hockey players in their own right. Don't need to hear 20 different variations of "Yeah uh he shoots it really good, wow he's so amazing, maybe one day I can grow up to be Connor Bedard."

That's just lazy coverage.

Agreed. Even as a huge Bedard fan it makes me cringe

 

[ijuka]

Already pretty sick of TSN asking every single Canadian player about Bedard and how he shoots it. These kids have worked most of their lives to get here and are all talented hockey players in their own right. Don't need to hear 20 different variations of "Yeah uh he shoots it really good, wow he's so amazing, maybe one day I can grow up to be Connor Bedard."

That's just lazy coverage.

It's especially a shame since all this coverage makes Bedard sound like someone who's all about his shot, when he really is so much more and the shot really is just a relatively minor detail as far as I'm concerned. Pulkkinen showed that just a shot doesn't do much on its own.

For me, the most impressive thing about Bedard has been the pace he's able to play at.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

 

[Love]

Reminds me so much of Tyler Motte

 

[GermanSpitfire]

Reminds me so much of Tyler Motte

Bedard‘s favourite player!