C Connor Bedard (2023, 1st, CHI) Part 6

[R Zardo]

if Bedard and Roenick had a kid it would look like Gabriel Jarret

 

[Bombshell11]

Because it just reeks of looking for something to criticize. It's been 2 games. He'll be better in game 20, just as he'll be better in year 2, just as he'll be better in year 5 (like all NHL stars are).

But that fact that these 2 games are his starting point is pretty scary, although not unexpected, and I say this as a fan of a team in Chicago's division, so him being underwhelming would actually be good for my team. I just don't see that.

if the NHL spends millions and millions to pump a player up, we're allowed to critize said player.

Also how many people working for the NHL are on this board gaslighting us with non sentical comments like "he's the best player on the ice"

People are just pointing out he's not a generational talent thats all.. nothing wrong with that

 

[Kurtosis]

if the NHL spends millions and millions to pump a player up, we're allowed to critize said player.

Also how many people working for the NHL are on this board gaslighting us with non sentical comments like "he's the best player on the ice"

People are just pointing out he's not a generational talent thats all.. nothing wrong with that

How could you even say one way or another based off the first two games of his career?

He has been one of the best players on the ice in the 2 games he has played in as an 18 year old. Guess we’ll see how he plays as the season progresses.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

if the NHL spends millions and millions to pump a player up, we're allowed to critize said player.

Also how many people working for the NHL are on this board gaslighting us with non sentical comments like "he's the best player on the ice"

People are just pointing out he's not a generational talent thats all.. nothing wrong with that

After 2 games, there's nothing right with it either.

McDavid just put up the 2nd best non-Gretzky/Lemieux season ever. McDavid's first 4 NHL games, as an older player than Bedard, by the way:

1 goal, 1 point, -5 and 26% on face-offs.

And that was on a team with more raw forward talent than Chicago currently has.

This is why the conclusions you are trying to draw are meaningless at this point in time. Might you ultimately be right, and he'll just end up an elite player and not "generational"? Absolutely you might be. But there's nothing about what's going on right now that proves anything close to it, and the rush to try and connect these things is pretty revealing, IMO.

 

[Bombshell11]

After 2 games, there's nothing right with it either.

McDavid just put up the 2nd best non-Gretzky/Lemieux season ever. McDavid's first 4 NHL games, as an older player than Bedard, by the way:

1 goal, 1 point, -5 and 26% on face-offs.

And that was on a team with more raw forward talent than Chicago currently has.

This is why the conclusions you are trying to draw are meaningless at this point in time. Might you ultimately be right, and he'll just end up an elite player and not "generational"? Absolutely you might be. But there's nothing about what's going on right now that proves anything close to it. The rush to try and connect these things is pretty revealing, IMO.

I think we have discussed the reasons earlier why we think he's not going to become generational. Im not even looking at the scoresheet btw.

 

[Waterbuf]

Oh jesus christ this again with who's generational and who isn't. There's not enough napalm for you all

 

[3074326]

Once he 1) gets stronger and 2) stops trying to skate through defenders he will be a force. Right now he is at his best when the offense is setup. Gets knocked down/knocked off the puck too easily to be the main transition guy imo.

Looks good though, he’s going to score a lot
of goals. Saying he isn’t pro-ready is f***ing stupid. Doesn’t make any sense.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

He looks good out there fun to watch , gonna watch a lot of hawks games this season

Something I noticed is don't you find he looks like a small rodent but like the cute kind not like a rat but like a squirrel or a gerbil

 

[FDBluth]

After 2 games, there's nothing right with it either.

McDavid just put up the 2nd best non-Gretzky/Lemieux season ever. McDavid's first 4 NHL games, as an older player than Bedard, by the way:

1 goal, 1 point, -5 and 26% on face-offs.

And that was on a team with more raw forward talent than Chicago currently has.

This is why the conclusions you are trying to draw are meaningless at this point in time. Might you ultimately be right, and he'll just end up an elite player and not "generational"? Absolutely you might be. But there's nothing about what's going on right now that proves anything close to it, and the rush to try and connect these things is pretty revealing, IMO.

McDavid could barely raise the puck off the ice in his rookie season. I remember him constantly trying to stickhandle right into the goalie like he did in junior, but he figured it out.

Once Bedard figures out how to get that extra split second of space to get his shot off, it's over. I think he's actually almost trying to get it off a bit too quickly right now, and isn't quite into his shooting rhythm in the NHL yet. But it's getting close. Hawks also need to figure out their powerplay because it looks BAD. I think they need to run it through him but move him around a bit and give him looks on both sides of the ice.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Ignore the haters presenting themselves as “reasonable skeptics”

It’s only a matter of time before they become the new “Crysby”, “Controller disconnected”, “McMuffin” before long.

They like to present themselves as just bringing order to a bunch of chaos but usually they are not very subtle before long.

 

[Fraser28]

I don't think you read the post though, all he's saying is that he wants to see Bedard score with his shot.

How's that a bad opinion?

What are you even talking about? Strange - that novel of a post and C+ rating seemed to include a little more criticism in it than “he wants to see Bedard score with his shot”.

if the NHL spends millions and millions to pump a player up, we're allowed to critize said player.

Also how many people working for the NHL are on this board gaslighting us with non sentical comments like "he's the best player on the ice"

People are just pointing out he's not a generational talent thats all.. nothing wrong with that

WTF lol. You’re declaring him not a generational talent? Based on…?

 

[hawksrule]

if the NHL spends millions and millions to pump a player up, we're allowed to critize said player.

Also how many people working for the NHL are on this board gaslighting us with non sentical comments like "he's the best player on the ice"

People are just pointing out he's not a generational talent thats all.. nothing wrong with that

I said that, because he was the best player on the ice last night, and now I’m pissed that the nhl hasn’t sent me my paycheck.

 

[Bombshell11]

I said that, because he was the best player on the ice last night, and now I’m pissed that the nhl hasn’t sent me my paycheck.

plenty of people din't get their paychecks from pfizer too, its just how it goes

 

[KaN19]

Lots of resentment in this thread.

It's too bad that your team ended up with mediocre talents when picking at the top of the draft... It's also a shame your favourite pet prospect from Liiga isn't garnering the same amount of attention...

But please cut it out with the "he's not ready for the NHL" concern trolling. If Bedard isn't good enough yet, then neither is 75% of the league. Just dissolve the league back the original 6 at that point.

 

[Boonk]

if the NHL spends millions and millions to pump a player up, we're allowed to critize said player.

Also how many people working for the NHL are on this board gaslighting us with non sentical comments like "he's the best player on the ice"

People are just pointing out he's not a generational talent thats all.. nothing wrong with that

Maybe there would be a point in that statement if you and everyone else who spews that garbage weren’t wrong lol.

 

[Team_Spirit]

Smile after Ws only. Smart kid.

 

[jj cale]

After 2 games, there's nothing right with it either.

McDavid just put up the 2nd best non-Gretzky/Lemieux season ever. McDavid's first 4 NHL games, as an older player than Bedard, by the way:

1 goal, 1 point, -5 and 26% on face-offs.

And that was on a team with more raw forward talent than Chicago currently has.

This is why the conclusions you are trying to draw are meaningless at this point in time. Might you ultimately be right, and he'll just end up an elite player and not "generational"? Absolutely you might be. But there's nothing about what's going on right now that proves anything close to it, and the rush to try and connect these things is pretty revealing, IMO.

This is one f the best takes ive seen in awhile around here.

Reasoned.

 

[rocketdan9]

Bedard will be a good one

He looks more impressive than Quinn (Devils) at the same age

But is not in the same stratosphere as McDavid (but who is?)

Bedard is a fantastic skater in all directions. Has a nasty snap shot...that doesnt take long to unload.

Bedard for now...reminds me of Kaprisov.

 

[x Tame Impala]

This thread will be so fun to re-read 5 years from now

 

[Blue and Green]

This thread will be so fun to re-read 5 years from now

"One, two, five!"

"Three, sir."

"Three!"

 

[ORRFForever]

Most of us (Canadians) hope / pray Bedard will be the second coming of Sid or Connor but there is no downside to lowered expectations.

 

[Mrfenn92]

 

[wetcoast]

I don't think you read the post though, all he's saying is that he wants to see Bedard score with his shot.

How's that a bad opinion?

He is going to score a lot of goals with his shot.

That poster slammed on Bedard on a slow start one year in junior and when Bedard excelled that poster disappeared.

You are free to make posts and comments that won't age well but expect incoming when you make just downright ridiculous comments.

 

[Hockeyholic]

Ray Ferraro believes he gets 70 points this year.

My guess is he will have alot of players not finish his passes etc.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Most of us (Canadians) hope / pray Bedard will be the second coming of Sid or Connor but there is no downside to lowered expectations.

Most of us Blackhawk fans hope / pray the same