C Connor Bedard (2023, 1st, CHI) Part 6

[ijuka]

So, yeah. put Jack Hughes's rookie numbers into your much heralded Yakupov converter and tell me what you get. It is irrelevant. Development is a process that takes 3 or 4 years. I'm more interested in what Bedard's numbers will be in year 3. (I'm guessing TOP 3 in scoring) than how his 18 year old rookie season measures up to 19 year old Yakupov's rookie season. a decade ago.

That has literally nothing to do with predicting his rookie season scoring, which is what you were doing. The only way it would be related is if you were trying to argue that Jack Hughes had a stronger rookie season than Yakupov - which is possible, sure, though the point still is rather unclear.

Obviously, for the player's long-term evaluation, what matters more is how good the player is at 23, but that doesn't matter when the aim's to predict Bedard's rookie scoring.

 

[Gold Standard]

2 months approx. to puck drop. The countdown is on.

 

[TLEH]

2 months approx. to puck drop. The countdown is on.

Enjoying the Cubs current run of good baseball, but cannot wait for hockey.

 

[Mathieukferland]

https://x.com/d1vdsagujsk2ipk/status/1692977062774997410?s=46&t=gayK_VFv9dswsr1U4K0m-A

Interesting anecdote

 

[Mrfenn92]

https://x.com/d1vdsagujsk2ipk/status/1692977062774997410?s=46&t=gayK_VFv9dswsr1U4K0m-A

Interesting anecdote

Classy move

 

[wetcoast]

https://x.com/d1vdsagujsk2ipk/status/1692977062774997410?s=46&t=gayK_VFv9dswsr1U4K0m-A

Interesting anecdote

Can we move on from twitter or X as it's now called.

It belongs in a different thread literally.

 

[summer tooth]

Thinking there will be a bit of a Bedard vs Fantilli race for the Calder

 

[Yepthatsme]

Thinking there will be a bit of a Bedard vs Fantilli race for the Calder

The Bedard vs. Fantilli race for the Calder will be about as interesting as the Bedard vs. Fantilli race for MVP of the WJC…

 

[Gold Standard]

Thinking there will be a bit of a Bedard vs Fantilli race for the Calder

I don't think Fantilli comes close to even being nominated in the TOP 5.

But hey. I'm sometimes wrong (not often) but sometimes I am...so it would be terrific to get this one wrong and get a ROY race for a little added intrigue.

 

[Gold Standard]

I'll take the under. but only just under.

 

[Fraser28]

I'll take the under. but only just under.

I’ll take over…just slightly.

 

[authentic]

I'll take the under. but only just under.

I'll take over, by 20+ points if he plays 75+ games.

 

[Nathaniel Skywalker]

95 points 42 goals 53 assists

 

[Dominance]

He’s the only offensive threat on a team that will struggle mightily to move the puck out of their end. I’m not sure when a first overall pick was last walking into such a destitute situation, if ever. Even with extremely favourable usage, 30+30 would be a great rookie season as the kid continues developing physically. I hope HF will keep its hat on when he’s not immediately scoring 100 points, but I know it won’t.

 

[Matsun]

Auston Matthews was 20th in scoring as a rookie, Laine was 30th. Last season 87 points was the 20th best and 80 was the 30th best. Bedard is better than them so they are not his benchmark. Crosby finished 6th in scoring and McDavid was 3rd in PPG but missed half the season. 6th would mean 110 points and 3rd would be 114. My projection for Bedard are 50+50. Based on last season he would finish about 5th in goals which is worse than Matthews and Laine did. He would also finish around 10-13 in points which is worse than Crosby and McDavid did. This is despite Bedard coming in with better production than maybe all of them. I don't understand why people are talking about 60-70 points here. That is not what these types of talents do. They are special and I think it's okay to expect him to preform like other special talents before him.

 

[ponder]

He’s the only offensive threat on a team that will struggle mightily to move the puck out of their end. I’m not sure when a first overall pick was last walking into such a destitute situation, if ever. Even with extremely favourable usage, 30+30 would be a great rookie season as the kid continues developing physically. I hope HF will keep its hat on when he’s not immediately scoring 100 points, but I know it won’t.

At least he’s got Taylor Hall and Seth Jones, more than rookie Ovie had to work with: https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/leagues/seasons/teams/0000492006.html

Chicago are definitely a crap team, but I suspect he still scores at a pace of 80-90 points per 82 games, maybe even higher.

 

[TLEH]

Scoring is up. He is good. I am taking the over on that. Easily.

 

[McFlash97]

If he has a motivated , talented Taylor Hall who can skate like the wind and create openings for him hes hitting 90. Don't underestimate this duo.

 

[Deebs]

I'll take the under. but only just under.

Over.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

I think he’s going to be a tad unimpressive visually (in terms of dominating the puck, driving play, winning battles, etc) this coming season but score a million goals. His shot is absurd, his hands are so clean and he’ll be scoring option 1 for an NHL power play. Great playmaker too and defenders will have to respect that.

 

[ijuka]

I'll take the under. but only just under.

That's the easiest over I've seen in a whlie.

I think he’s going to be a tad unimpressive visually (in terms of dominating the puck, driving play, winning battles, etc) this coming season but score a million goals. His shot is absurd, his hands are so clean and he’ll be scoring option 1 for an NHL power play. Great playmaker too and defenders will have to respect that.

I don't get how people say this. His shot is extremely overrated by now. Even if he scores tons of goals, it won't be because of his shot.

 

[Gold Standard]

That's the easiest over I've seen in a whlie.


I don't get how people say this. His shot is extremely overrated by now. Even if he scores tons of goals, it won't be because of his shot.

Then call your bookie! put big money on the over. Good luck.

 

[HeadLiceHatty]

Bruh, Bedard is a going to drop 40g, 80p at an absolute minimum. He's going to be offensively deployed in the best possible situations and his release is top 3 in the league already. He's better than Matthews as a prospect and I honestly think will eclipse him after his first season. Anyone who thinks he's going to suck or not be as good as advertised is going to be seriously disappointed, yeah he's not Mcdavid no one f***ing is, lets be real.

 

[kmwtrucks]

Bruh, Bedard is a going to drop 40g, 80p at an absolute minimum. He's going to be offensively deployed in the best possible situations and his release is top 3 in the league already. He's better than Matthews as a prospect and I honestly think will eclipse him after his first season. Anyone who thinks he's going to suck or not be as good as advertised is going to be seriously disappointed, yeah he's not Mcdavid no one f***ing is, lets be real.

he has a NHL build, and when he plays against the top players his age and a year or 2 older he makes everyone else look AVG. no idea if he ends up as the top player in the league in 5-6 years but he will be a top 5 forward. the only hole in his game is 5-9 3/4 but weighed 184 as a 17 year old at the combine. he also is a really smart kid, with high end drive.

 

[Mathieukferland]

His shot is extremely overrated by now

The greatest wrist shot ever seen in a prospect is overrated? Like saying McDavid’s skating is overrated