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C Brad Lambert - HIFK U20, Jr. A SM-liiga (2022 Draft)

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If Lambert does want to come to the CHL it'd be the WHL as his fathers side of the family are all around the Saskatoon area. Whether it's Saskatoon who gets him if he lasts to their pick, Swift Current takes him then trades him to Saskatoon after half a year or I could see him go to Regina to play with Bedard also. This could just be him going to a different Liiga team though
 
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landy92mack29 said:
If Lambert does want to come to the CHL it'd be the WHL as his fathers side of the family are all around the Saskatoon area. Whether it's Saskatoon who gets him if he lasts to their pick, Swift Current takes him then trades him to Saskatoon after half a year or I could see him go to Regina to play with Bedard also. This could just be him going to a different Liiga team though
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I'd be stoked to see him go to Saskatoon, but it would also be awesome to see him play with Bedard in Regina.
 
I believe he has to go through the European draft so he could end up anywhere in Canada. He definitely should make the jump to CHL. My two cents...
 
Great decision by Lambert. His team knew that Liiga is no place for the development of a top-tier prospect. The move to Canada will be a major boost for his career and chances of becoming the #1 pick just went way up
 
tapi said:
Great decision by Lambert. His team knew that Liiga is no place for the development of a top-tier prospect. The move to Canada will be a major boost for his career and chances of becoming the #1 pick just went way up
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This is just wrong. Love when people think top prospects can only come from the CHL.
 
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JustaFinnishGuy said:
Yeah, I don't really think this answer is all that valuable right now, people change their minds all the time and players get caught telling lies all the time, of course in the current climate the right choice is to say that he will rep Finland but we will never know what an 18-year-old Brad thinks of the situation after a couple years in Canada. All this press release does right now is that bitter people get a way to hate him in the future
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If he stays in Finland, he'll play for Finland. If he moves to Canada, uncertain.
 
wings5 said:
This is just wrong. Love when people think top prospects can only come from the CHL.
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Its an age old debate. CHL certainly has the track record with top prospects. Adjusting to NA life is difficult. The way Kakko performed doesnt help guys like Lambert who are on the fence.
 
This conversation about a 16-year old prodigy is getting frenzy in this country - soon it is more popular than everyday news about COVID-19.

I'm sure he will have conversations about the options with his close people (parents and agent) and will decide what sounds best for him.

Highly granted as he is, theres a lot of interest in him in Finland as well as in NA, but somewhat this seems to be so big deal here in Finland. Is it because of his dual citizenship and fear of losing him to Canada or why everywhere here media is creating all kinds fuzz about this topic and ppl making rumours about him going to NA "cuz facilities and program suits better for his development for going first overall".

This is just getting ridiculous, but at the same time tells everything about how mad finns are towards this sport of hockey.
 
bigdog16 said:
Its an age old debate. CHL certainly has the track record with top prospects. Adjusting to NA life is difficult. The way Kakko performed doesnt help guys like Lambert who are on the fence.
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Ehh... what is this crap? Canada is 99% same country as Finland for a hockeyplayer, especially for a guy who has no language problems.

And in this scenario, would go to junior level to play, not straight in NHL.

Abysmal comparison.
 
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tapi said:
Great decision by Lambert. His team knew that Liiga is no place for the development of a top-tier prospect. The move to Canada will be a major boost for his career and chances of becoming the #1 pick just went way up
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Nope, problem is a contender-level Liiga-team HIFK, which would not give him a Top6 role.

But he could get a Top6 role in lesser level, bottom5 team. And if he goes to 2nd level Mestis, he would be 1st liner for sure, developing with men environment, playingst against men.

Simple things, their family is too smart to know what the role means. They want that role and they want that right competition level.

Playing against juniors in Canada would be a step back for the individual, imho. Finland against men (in men environment) is the best place to develop. Swedish second level offers that environment too, with realistic quality of compeition.
 
Henkka said:
Ehh... what is this crap? Canada is 99% same country as Finland for a hockeyplayer, especially for a guy who has no language problems.

And in this scenario, would go to junior level to play, not straight in NHL.

Abysmal comparison.
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You misinterpreted what I was saying. I know hes going to the junior level. Im saying this gives him an additional 2 years to adapt to NA and the NA style of play before he goes to the NHL. But apparently according to you Canada and Finland are the exact same and no adjustment would be required. I think Kakko would say otherwise.....

Abysmal comprehension
 
Henkka said:
Nope, problem is a contender-level Liiga-team HIFK, which would not give him a Top6 role.

But he could get a Top6 role in lesser level, bottom5 team. And if he goes to 2nd level Mestis, he would be 1st liner for sure, developing with men environment, playingst against men.

Simple things, their family is too smart to know what the role means. They want that role and they want that right competition level.

Playing against juniors in Canada would be a step back for the individual, imho. Finland against men (in men environment) is the best place to develop. Swedish second level offers that environment too, with realistic quality of compeition.
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There is literally no proof as to which route is the best way for development. The Liiga has proven that it simply isnt a very good pro league.
 
bigdog16 said:
Because many of the Liiga’s top scorers put up pedestrian numbers in the AHL or had good ECHL numbers. There really isnt much difference between the Liiga and the ECHL
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There is. The best players in the ECHL can often be some of the best in Liiga. The bottom end ECHL players couldn't handle Mestis.


And not all North American AHL dwellers put up anything worth mentioning in Liiga. The style of play is different. And while the AHL has far better individuals, it's a farm league, and not really comparable for that reason.
 
Bearr said:
There is. The best players in the ECHL can often be some of the best in Liiga. The bottom end ECHL players couldn't handle Mestis.


And not all North American AHL dwellers put up anything worth mentioning in Liiga. The style of play is different. And while the AHL has far better individuals, it's a farm league, and not really comparable for that reason.
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The gap between the AHL and Liiga is far greater than the gap between the Liiga and the ECHL. You have no way to measure the depth. And you cant prove the bottom end ECHL players struggle in the Mestis because there arent even any North Americans playing in the Mestis. Im showing you on paper that using the players who played in both the Liiga and NA, that players who do well in the Liiga are good ECHL players but can’t cut it in the AHL. That is a fact
 
Jussi said:
That's not how this works. Miro Heiskanen, Patrik Laine, Sebastian Aho are just some of the recent examples that DESTROY your argument.
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That literally isnt my argument at all. Those players played there as 17 and 18 yr olds. The youngest players in the coast are 20. Im not talking from a developmental standpoint. If you think those players put up the same numbers at 17-18 in the AHL as they did in the Liiga you are out to lunch
 
bigdog16 said:
That literally isnt my argument at all. Those players played there as 17 and 18 yr olds. The youngest players in the coast are 20. Im not talking from a developmental standpoint. If you think those players put up the same numbers at 17-18 in the AHL as they did in the Liiga you are out to lunch
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I think you're whole argument is based on a flawed premise. I just listed three players who went straight from Liiga to NHL without AHL. Therefore Liiga is a good developmental environment. That is my basis and you can't change my opinion.
 
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I think you're whole argument is based on a flawed premise. I just listed three players who went straight from Liiga to NHL without AHL. Therefore Liiga is a good developmental environment. That is my basis and you can't change my opinion.
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Your way out in right field with your argument and not what I was alluding to at all. You are completely missing the point

I could also put a list together that dwarfs your 3 player list of players from the CHL. But you, like a majority of Finns, already have their biased minds made up
 
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