All i can say at this moment is that from what i saw at the WJC tournament he was dissapointing to say the least, and he's had a dip in scoring at the u20 league, but if he's still projected to go 1 by scouts then there must be atleast some reason for it, i haven't watched him enough to say for sure myself, do i hope he goes 1st? Yes, but at this moment idk.
C Aatu Räty - Jukurit, Liiga (2021, 52nd, NYI)
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Kaako Kappo
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Underage players rarely impress in u20s, but his line was at times the best of Finland's lines. Also nice to see that he speaks excellent english.
Heiskanen was never impressive in U20s and to be honest Kakko was not anything special either. I found Lundell better in that tournament.
Will be an interesting season for Aatu. I think he has the skill set to take number one spot in the draft, even if this last season wasn't that special.
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Sure, your'e right, but like i said i can't really speak on him too much, as i have struggled to catch enough footage of him, alot of people seem to speak on him that don't know what their talking about though, he's not projected no 1 without a reason afterall, but i do see why some people are skeptic.
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Kaako Kappo
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Well, I dont feel like he's ever been talked about as consensus #1, more that he had potential to be that number one pick. So many things can still change and COVID will make next season even harder to predict.
People are really putting too much weight just looking at his stats. Kärpät's U20 team had very deep 4 lines and only Tieksola managed to score over big numbers on that team. It's far easier to score points if you are the only star on the team and get 20+ minutes every game and unlimited time on the PP.
His actual on ice performance especially at Liiga level and U18/U20 national teams was very good and he showcased big offensive upside. At WJC, I think Räty played very well with limited minutes, he would've likely scored a lot more if the coach would've played him on the PP and given him more icetime.
Don't know how he only scored 2 goals in A-junior but his shot is lethal, not Laine-tier but well above average for a Finnish prospect.
While Räty might not look like a 1st overall pick now, but his potential is absolutely massive. No real weakness in his game and looks like he is still growing.
Sebastian Aho put up similar numbers in his draft year with Kärpät Liiga and U20 team (7 goals in the whole year), turned out okay.
His actual on ice performance especially at Liiga level and U18/U20 national teams was very good and he showcased big offensive upside. At WJC, I think Räty played very well with limited minutes, he would've likely scored a lot more if the coach would've played him on the PP and given him more icetime.
Don't know how he only scored 2 goals in A-junior but his shot is lethal, not Laine-tier but well above average for a Finnish prospect.
While Räty might not look like a 1st overall pick now, but his potential is absolutely massive. No real weakness in his game and looks like he is still growing.
Sebastian Aho put up similar numbers in his draft year with Kärpät Liiga and U20 team (7 goals in the whole year), turned out okay.
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He has potential for sure, he's just proven less to me than players like Owen Power and Brandt Clarke have. Those two, Kent Johnson, and maybe Daniil Chayka are probably ahead of him at this moment for me. Still plenty of time for that to change though.
What are your thoughts on Tuukka Tieksola? I was really high on him last year.
Pavel Buchnevich
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I don’t think he’s being downgraded that much due to the stats. It matters, but not as much as the skillset. I think it has more to do with the skillset. I don’t think anyone suggested either that he’s already a bust. I think it’s pretty normal that some early 1OA candidates fall off and need to be re-slotted at a range that replicates their potential more appropriately.
I don't think so, Kärpät tend to have tons of high scorers at every level every year and it's quite clearly easier to score with competent teammates while constantly playing in the opposing end of the ice in comparison to when you're the only good player on the team trying to make things happen on your own. This is some extreme reverse logic in my eyes. He highly benefits from playing for Kärpät, and should easily be able to dominate easy competition like u-20s in Finland on a team like Kärpät. If he's not a star on a u-20 team at the age of u-18 then he's not a very amazing prospect.
Scoring tends to be a very good indicator for future success historically, it's not just out of nowhere that people like to look at it. At least at some point in time, purely scouting by statwatching was outperforming drafts by the actual NHL GMs, though I'm not sure if that's changed in the past few years. Statwatching gave numerous good value picks such as Debrincat, Kyle Connor etc.
Thing is, imho, he has alot of the tools to be no1, it's just in the WJC he was abit lost on the ice, being on the wrong places at times you wish he'd be on he right ones, invicible in other words, there can be numerous reasons for this. I'ts a weird case for me man. And the Corona makes this even harder to predict. I still feel like nobody really knows here because there are so few who actually have watched him enough with the limited resourses, and i really wonder if scouts have seen enough to justify the projections.
Many interesting views and points from all posters here though. But something tells me that either the scouts are lazy and just putting a name out there, or there is more behind it all than we know of. Because here is lots of footage that you can't get hands on from this kid, and to me that is weird for a current projected no1.
Many interesting views and points from all posters here though. But something tells me that either the scouts are lazy and just putting a name out there, or there is more behind it all than we know of. Because here is lots of footage that you can't get hands on from this kid, and to me that is weird for a current projected no1.
Usually the reason a player would be invisible is a lack of hockey IQ. I think his play without the puck is a pretty clear issue, or at least was when I actively watched him. I mean, he often looks great with the puck. Great hands, usually makes good plays, the skating's IMO better than it's talked about as too. But he just rarely gets the puck in a good spot and often disappears without doing anything, for almost entire games. IMO it's a potential hockey IQ issue. But with a good season he can prove that that's not the case. Even with the puck, while I said he often makes good plays, they're just good, not amazing. Doesn't seem to have so much depth. But we'll see.
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Yeah, I haven't also found any weaknesses in his game so far. I thought he looked good for a minimal role in WJC.
Yeah, i agree somewhat with this, i remember watching him in a u18 tournament with Kärpät, there were times where he was invicible.
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Like he had chance to prove himself. IMO best forward (it's not achievement in that tournament, worst team in ages), limited minutes though.
Your probably right, but still he wasnt all that visible in the few junior matches i got to watch of him, he wadnt too bad neither, but then again those were just a few games and nobody at that age is great every game.
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I hope he doesn't become the first Finnish number one unless he shows great improvement upcoming season.
Rather wait for Lambert to take that honor or if not Lambert then Kiviharju, who I think seems like the best prospect I've seen from Finland.
Rather wait for Lambert to take that honor or if not Lambert then Kiviharju, who I think seems like the best prospect I've seen from Finland.
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Honestly I think I like Anton Lundell slightly more than him. Raty isn't a bad player but I don't even see top 5 personally.
Lundell had a much better resume at this point in his career. Raty is still running on his 2018-2019 season hype, his season last year wasn't even Jesse Ylonen level at the same age statistically. I think Raty is a fine prospect, but he's probably more of a mid first round prospect.
Yep. Lundell's last 3 seasons(that Räty has an equivalent season to done) all are a lot more impressive than Räty's equivalent seasons.
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damn what hapened to this guy lol 2-3 years ago he was the clear front runner for #1 overall now i see mock drafts of him just outside the top 10 lol?
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