Confirmed with Link: Bunting to Nashville
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pistolpete11
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So basically the same production level.
I've been told "Wait until he plays with Crosby or Malkin!" too many times to put much stock into the linemates argument. We'll see.
Again, I'm not mad at the trade it's just...pointless. They got a late 20's 40-50 point C/W for a late 20's 40-50 point winger. Whoopie. Acting like it's a big win for the Pens is so strange to me. It does nothing for the rebuild and they aren't good enough that it makes any difference whatsoever on the ice. Maybe things will become more clear with additional moves.
So what's that? 5 more points or something?
So they went from terrible to terrible +8. Look out!
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How does adding a potential asset that you can get value for do nothing for the rebuild?
Dubas has made three good trades in PIT.
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He'll have a lot of opportunity to recoup his value here either at 2C or 1LW.
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You're using the same logic people used when they got Bunting. Mike Sullivan is not the guy to rebuild a player's value to flip later on.
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Who's anointing? He's a guy with a history of decent production who could put up some numbers in a more offensively advantageous role than he got with the Preds.
Whether that means a resurgence here or someone to pump and dump for futures later, its better than Bunts.
Sure worked for Rakell.
Last offseason people here were wondering how much we'd have to add just for another team to take him.
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I'm from the GTA, but I'm not a Leafs fan. I became a Penguins fan during the 'X generation'. I loved their newer gold uniforms at that time, and Mario Lemieux was my favourite player along with Alexei Morozov.
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Bunting is useless when he isn't on one of his scoring streaks, he had so many game where he kept losing the puck more easily than Tanner Glass. I hope Novak can offer at least something apart from scoring but let's see.
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Wasn't a fan of Bunting here, at all really. Initially, sure - then he (sure - maybe he got Sullied) - just stopped stirring any pots and he couldn't crack the top 6 on this abysmal roster. Nor could he outperform any oppo bottom 6 players.
Finding any value here is worth it. Trade them all. Plus - fire Sullivan the moment we're officially out of the playoffs and don't second guess it. Let them team 'feel' in limbo as we head to Summer so you can officially 'shape' it over the Summer. Versus this slow piece mailed death sentence.
Finding any value here is worth it. Trade them all. Plus - fire Sullivan the moment we're officially out of the playoffs and don't second guess it. Let them team 'feel' in limbo as we head to Summer so you can officially 'shape' it over the Summer. Versus this slow piece mailed death sentence.
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Agreed only trade not a win was the Karlsson one but that's because we floundered.
If we trade him in the office season and get a 1st + back we get a W
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Emp is anointing.
Yes he has decent production. He might improve on that with more ice time. But he's also going to face tougher defensive opposition both Fs and Ds if he's 2C.
He definitely should be better than Bunting was.
I’ll bite. I think Dubas has been terribly overrated by the media and many on here
Most of the trades mentioned above are nothing burgers but I’ll look at the bigger ones
Bunting for Novak + L Schenn = WIN
- you call this a win but it’s way too soon to tell. I think Bunting could have fetched more or a younger asset or pick
Karlson - awful and I said it at the time. Yes we freed up contracts but we also took one on longer in length and worse. Plus, we got older instead of younger
Guentzel - look at what the market is getting now. The prospects we got were not great and wow Koivonen is producing the jury is out. Feel like we should have received more for Jake especially with Carolina having a loaded farm at the time
How is Mcgroarty a win? What has he done? Underwhelming so far
Graves and Jarry contracts are awful.
Some of the other signings like Nieto are head scratchers
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Possibly, I'm going on value right now. Bunting for Novak and Schenn, if you have to pick a winner from the 2 its PIT.
I think Dubas is really good with trading but not good in FA..
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Rascal Duprix, we meet again.Yes, there have been zero examples of players putting their skills together and developing into a good middle-6 player at age 28.
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I feel like Yagr will have a better career than mcgroaty and this will go down as a loss
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No matter what Novak could potentially be we aren't going to see it because
Sullivan is going to see a player who some would describe as a skilled center who has had some success on left wing and appears to have some chemistry with Tomasino and just put him at third line right wing with like Hayes and bemstrom or something.
Sullivan is going to see a player who some would describe as a skilled center who has had some success on left wing and appears to have some chemistry with Tomasino and just put him at third line right wing with like Hayes and bemstrom or something.
And then ask him to be a physical, grinding checker like a stereotypical 3rd liner in Mike Sullivan's Universe.
Which will work about as well for Novak as it did for Granlund here, since Novak is even more allergic to contact than Granny is.
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I think the idea is less that he's a guy who looks like a legit 2C "diamond in the rough", and more that as a bad team, we could pump up his numbers with more opportunity (either there or 1LW if Raks is dealt). Plus he doesn't sound solid in his own end, which presents some issues if he were playing 3C.
Like, Mikael Granlund is not a legit 1st line player. But he got played like one in SJ and flipped for a great package of futures. Whereas we used him like a 3rd liner and had to pay to get rid of him.
